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Home » Reader question » Reader question: What about a plane ticket when applying for a Schengen visa?
Hello bloggers,
Next year, after my two-week holiday in Sa Kaew, I want to return to the Netherlands with my Thai girlfriend, so she can stay at my home in the Netherlands for three months.
I am aware of Schengen visa. Everything is clear to me. Also apply for a Schengen visa on time, only up to the “Return ticket”. How or what, or where do you arrange a return ticket for your Thai partner with a Schengen visa.
As simple as calling an airline? Or is this done in the same way as compulsory insurance
for your Thai girlfriend. Is a single ticket not an option? Or do they mean an open ticket? Or a regular return ticket with departure and return?
How am I supposed to see this now? Please advice and tips
Regards,
Thaia dict
With a single ticket, one could well see it as suspicious of no planned return after visa expiration!
simple return ticket, EVA air has 3 / 6 month tickets, sometimes even Open return tickets, although with Eva a date change is not a high cost, "flex(ible)" tickets are also available
To make a reservation, simply call the (an) airline. For example China Airlines or Eva. You will be emailed a reservation that will automatically expire after a month if you do not convert it into a booking. After the visa has been granted, it is nice to actually buy the ticket, but that is not necessary.
A return is not mandatory, but only a one-way ticket will raise questions (also at the border of the Schengen area, the KMar if you choose to fly in via the Netherlands). If you have a logical reason and enough money for a ticket back, you will be fine, but you will have the least hassle with a return ticket. If necessary, take a more flexible ticket where you can easily adjust the return date.
According to the site you MUST show a return
Incidentally, that does not have to be a ticket, but a RESERVATION for a ticket
You can therefore show it at the embassy and then cancel it, or have it expire automatically
If it concerns a reverse trip, so from BKK to Amsterdam, you cannot call China air in Amsterdam, they do not do that, in that case you can contact China airlines in Bangkok
good luck, Peter
In the Schengen Visa Code (EU Regulation 2009/38/EC) there is no requirement for a return ticket, which would also be strange because there may be valid reasons for no return ticket: transit to another country (A Thai who, after staying in the Schengen area to, for example, the UK or the US for holiday, work or a long stay there), for example, or that you leave again in a different way (return by ferry, by car, by train, etc.) or because there are still there is no sight of an exact return date within the maximum 90 days (even if I would take an open ticket).
However, a return ticket is a means of proof in which you demonstrate that you intend to return in time, making the risk of establishment (which is a ground for rejection) somewhat less plausible:
Annex II, part B of the Schengen Visa Code states:
—–
B. DOCUMENTS FOR ASSESSING THE APPLICANT'S INTENTION TO LEAVE THE TERRITORY OF THE MEMBER STATES
1.reservation of a return or round trip ticket;
2. proof of financial means in the country of residence;
3. proof of employment: bank statements;
4. title deeds of real estate;
5. proof of integration in the country of residence: family ties; professional situation.
-
In the vast majority of cases, a return ticket will be obvious, so you should submit a (reservation or option) for this when applying and you can therefore also show a ticket at the Schengen external border that indicates that you will return on time. or at least leave the Schengen area again. That is also the reason why a (reservation/option) for a return ticket is requested, almost everyone will need this and there is no room for extensive nuances and exceptions if you want to briefly and concisely list what an applicant must arrange. .
The more extensive “Handbook for the processing of visas” dictates:
---
6.2. Which documents should be submitted in support of an application for a
uniform visa?
Supporting documents should provide evidence of the following:
– the purpose of the intended journey;
– proof of accommodation, or proof of sufficient means to cover the applicant's
accommodations;
– that the applicant possesses sufficient means of subsistence both for the duration of
the intended stay and for the return to his country of origin or residence, or for the
transit to a third country into which he is certain to be admitted, or that he is in a
position to acquire such means legally, in accordance with Article 5(1)(c) and (3) of
the Schengen Borders Code;
– information enabling an assessment of the applicant's intention to leave the territory
of the Member States before the expiry of the visa applied for.
A non-exhaustive list of supporting documents which the consulate may request from the
applicant is set out in Annex 14.
Supporting documents should be assessed in relation to the individual application and one
document might render another superfluous: ”
---
I don't even have to present a ticket for my wife when applying for a visa at the German embassy! The only thing that is clear – is that one must have travel insurance! Again so beautiful, my wife and 2 kids automatically go to my TKVersicherung without anyone counting me 1 €cent for it. I have a so-called family visa, which is officially only valid for 3 months, but can be extended if the criteria are met. That's why I can't book a return date either.
If you are officially married (in NL, BE or TH) and your main travel destination is Germany (or any other EU country of which you do not have the nationality yourself) then insurance is not even required (whether that is wise is verse two ) and the visa is issued free of charge, expedited and with hardly any documentation. Actually only the marriage certificate plus a translation so that people can read the certificate, your travel documents (passports) and a statement from you as an EU citizen that the wife and children are going to Germany with you.
See: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_nl.htm
you have no use for a return ticket,
you must apply to the Dutch embassy and you need a full ticket for that, which she must show with the application, outward journey to the Netherlands and back to Bangkok, so no return ticket, first do your homework properly, it works the other way around and not how you want it
good luck ,
Dear Jan,
Read the information on the website of the embassy, national government and EU carefully, I would say.
– a ticket BKK-AMS-AMS-BKK (or however you want to fly, you can also land in Düsseldorf if you want and leave via Brussels again) is called a return ticket in my book.
– A full ticket is not a requirement, especially not with the application. They ask for a return trip (which will usually be by plane from Thailand..) and a reservation or option is sufficient. Sometimes an embassy wants to see the actual ticket with an assigned visa, but that is also far from standard.
– According to the official rules, there is no obligation or requirement to show an actual ticket when applying or after granting a visa. However, the return ticket is a piece of evidence that contributes to demonstrating a valid purpose of travel (no risk of establishing a business, etc.). See also my previous post.
— On Rijksoverheid.nl they describe it as “a proof of reservation of the trip”.
— A bit more simplistic with VFS (actually too short-sighted, but applicable to almost most applicants): ” Copy of hotel reservations for the entire trip (also other Schengen countries) and flight booking (The Embassy advises you not to make any payment for hotel accommodations or flight tickets before you are granted a visa). ”
– In the actual EU regulations, which I quoted earlier, it is abundantly clear that there is no obligation whatsoever to buy a return ticket before applying for a visa.
Sources:
- http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/visa/vraag-en-antwoord/hoe-vraag-ik-een-visum-voor-nederland-aan.html
- http://thailand.nlambassade.org/producten-en-diensten/consular-services/visum-voor-nederland (just click through to the site of the external, optional, service provider.
- http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/visa-policy/index_en.htm (website of the EU containing the visa regulations and a handbook).
In short, we come back to the simple advice: call China Airlines, Eva etc. in Thailand and request a reservation (option) on a ticket. Submit the request, then convert the reservation into a booking or see if you can find a better ticket in the meantime. Know that, for example, on a Schengen visa issued by the Netherlands, you can also fly in via Germany, Belgium or any other Member State if that suits you better, PROVIDED you can convince the border guard at the border that the Netherlands is your main destination.
Are you still traveling on a one-way ticket? Hopefully you can then show how you are leaving (Orient Express for example??) or that a (flexible open) ticket was not an option and you were therefore forced to take a one-way ticket but have enough money in your pocket to buy a ticket back (or to elsewhere in the world, as long as you leave the Schengen area). The quotes I quoted earlier from official EU sources seem clear enough to me?
When someone speaks of a return ticket, it means a return ticket. Otherwise it is a single ticket.
Dear,
My Thai girlfriend just visited here for a month
The application for the visa only included valid insurance during her stay, bank statement of her account, surety, passport, however, no plane ticket or reservation and the visa was neatly delivered at home 2 days after the interview (this was at the Belgian embassy with I think that which is the same everywhere)
In the meantime she has already left and I will be joining her again in wonderful Thailand at the end of this month until the beginning of March.
First thanks for all the responses.
I have one more question.
What if your girlfriend after a month
or homesick for a month and a half.
just don't see it anymore.
I don't think so, but suppose it does.
I know from my own experience.
That if you book a return ticket, you should stay one or two days
want to go back sooner. you already 200€ for early rebooking.
That is precisely why a single ticket from bkk to ams
wiser. Although I want to make it very plausible for the embassy
that she will also go back after 90 days.
And I wonder why it wasn't included
In the concept of shengen visa. Like compulsory insurance.
I'm going to ask an airline about this for information
Thanks for all the responses
Concerns reservation return ticket for shengen visa
Next year two months before leaving for holiday after Thailand.
Do I want to apply for a shengen visa for my
Thai girlfriend.
So that we can return to the Netherlands together. after visiting
Thai Dutch embassy first day of vacation.
Want to arrange the shengen visa
Can someone please explain to me what is the best thing to do
Because I come with the airline I fly with
Not really any further?
They indicate that they must contact them themselves.
But I am the one applying for the shengen visa.
I must therefore be able to prove that I have made a reservation.
I don't like a one-way trip to Thailand.
No open ticket either.
I myself want to travel to airline tickets.nl next year
Thai books.
So I start from the Netherlands and they from there after vacation
Thailand. Have you heard, should she want to go back after a month?
They can convert it free of charge because they start from Thailand.
I don't know if this is correct.
But for me it's about the fact, can I arrange it with the airline
That if I have booked my return ticket, she will be added to it at the same time
can take my return flight.
I don't know how or what at all.
Please advice
Greetings thaiadict
Dear Thaiadict, I find your message a bit confusing, but if I understand correctly you ask how/who applies for a Schengen visa? Your Thai partner must do that, after all, she is the applicant, the person for whom the visa is. Details on how to prepare can be found in the Schengen file on this blog and of course via the website of the embassy.
You can submit the applications from 3 months before entry.
For a plane ticket reservation: have her call China Airlines or Eva for a reservation that automatically expires after 30 days (if you don't convert it into a booking). You can pay for the ticket afterwards or give her money.
My girlfriend did that.
Go to the website of eg EVA airlines enter the dates of departure and arrival as well as the destination go through the entire procedure fill in the name, address, etc.
You print it out just before you make the payment.
You add this to your documents, when your visa has been delivered then book your ticket
This way you do not lose if the visa is not delivered.
Grts Jan