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Home » Living in Thailand » Reader Submission: Thai police are looking for sponsors…..
Had a visit from the police today. Neat sedan with logo and 2 agents. First I was asked for my passport and income. Then took a picture, the agent with 2 stars, Nui and me. Passport flipped through and photo of every relevant page. Nice lazy.
When leaving, a monkey came out of the sleeve. Whether we were interested in seeing a kind of mailbox placed outside the fence. On it the logo of the police, put 400 thb in the bus every month and uncle cop has the key. That logo would deter malicious people. An uncle agent would act as a kind of security when using the box. All completely voluntary, of course.
After the agents left, I was in a dent at first. It's obvious to leave the blue blue, but boyfriends in the police for 400 thb per month can never hurt, right? Three less beers and that's it.
Have other bloggers experienced something similar and what do they think?
Submitted by Klaas
It's something different than selling raffle tickets, support cards, calendars, etc... 😉
Yes, it used to be Thb 500 but has now dropped to Thb 300 per month. They even come to sign a book with 2 people, every day at different times..
Giving the police money to do their job?
Or prevent your home from being burgled in the near future?
Always smile in Thailand, even with the police. Pay them extra so that they do their job (well or extra well). 5555 Corruption?
With us it is still THB500, but I have to say you do get value for money.
2 weeks ago there was an attempted burglary, the perpetrator was on the camera images and 2 days later he was caught, try to get that done in the Netherlands.
Is very common
Here 500 bath come every night to have a look and sign a booklet
If burglary, they really go after it
Burglars must respect sticker and extra mailbox from police for booklet
Gr Peter
Udonthani
We live in a neat neighborhood so we don't have to sponsor these people.
Our neighbor is the mayor of our hamlet and he does have security cameras.
We don't have camera surveillance anywhere and the "mayor" doesn't live next to us either.
But maybe that's not a nice neighborhood where I live so between the plebs.....
In the past (I lived remote) I paid 200 bath for a check, well deserved, prevented a lot of trouble……..unfortunately not everything, so we left
Buy a little extra security for a low price. If you can spare it I would definitely consider it. Do wonder how they distribute this extra income within the police. If this becomes normal and they have a dozen mailboxes, they will spend a large part of their day doing their round for this. Very special, only possible in these kinds of countries.
For that 'low' amount they drive by your place an extra time, so one less time elsewhere. The plebs with an income of around 10 thousand a month thus have no extra protection, possibly less protection. Who pays for it apparently?
Indeed, who pays, decides. This is the case in most countries, including the Netherlands. Only we have neatly hidden that behind smoke screens.
We left Thailand and got into a huge argument with the landlady, who wanted to catch an extra 2 months, settle damage, god knows what she wanted. In any case, not returning our 6000 baht deposit, despite making many improvements to the house. Coincidentally, a good friend came along who has an acquaintance in the police force in the form of a commissioner. 1 phone call, landlady on the phone and: bowing apologies AND our deposit back.
You have to make do with the belts you have in every country: in Thailand it's just a bit more on the surface.
Apart from the fact that you don't have to hang a post box with a logo, the Italian Mafia functions almost the same way.
Families or companies, which are expected to pay the best, are visited at a certain time to make a financial contribution, so that they may be sheltered and live in security.
In my eyes a part of corruption, although a good watchdog, for the protection of home and court, also eats for at least 400 Baht p/m.555
Serious corruption, but the system works. A private security company costs more, and if something happens, the police have to come and investigate. For that small amount they are fully committed…
I lived in Bangkok (Bang Na) for 8 years, but never experienced this kind of antics. Maybe because I had an official work permit? If you don't cooperate with this, I think you could definitely get into trouble, but of course it won't do any good! It would really upset me!
Hello Klaas, it might be useful to make the license plate invisible in the photo of the car. My wife (Thai) says that this can indeed occur in the more remote rural areas, but not in the big cities. This is probably not officially allowed. We were curious where you live. It doesn't seem expensive to me and it is useful. On the other hand, you keep a certain system in your hand.
We also pay a small amount per month. In return, we are included in the surveillance round. If we report that we will be absent for a few days, our house will be closely monitored. In Thailand you often see that the police provide extra services for a fee (sometimes in their spare time), such as guarding a gold shop or escorting a convoy of (school) buses. Not common in the Netherlands, but to speak directly of corruption or Mafia is going way too far for me. You are not obliged to pay (with the Mafia you are). In any case, we are happy with it and I understand more and more why more and more Thais have had enough of the farang with their big mouths.
In addition to paid police, there is also a paid fire brigade (don't remember which country or year): we will come and extinguish the fire if you put some money. That is paying officers for services during that time that come from the tax pot and fall under their standard range of duties. That is not exactly according to the book that course of events ... (corruption, extra income, mafia practices or very normal is an opinion)
Nice, of course, if you have more than enough money, but people who can't (or don't want to!) pay for it are the victims, right? If they come to you in the street, then not to someone else. If people now do extra jobs outside of service, that is of course a completely different story. But that also says something: if the standard salary is too low to make a decent living or to pay the department, then maybe something is not right how all this is arranged?
Talk to the Thai people, for example, restaurant owners and what they think of shifting money to the police. The Thai I speak to are not really happy about that. Do they have a big mouth? They don't exactly shout it from the rooftops. However, the students are now protesting with cute actions like a song about the Japanese hamster Hamtaro. The youth is angry that the government/cabinet eats up the tax money (instead of spending it sensibly). They are fed up with the fact that everything can be solved in Thailand if you, as a private person, just throw money at it. I understand more and more why the Thai are concerned about the failure of the government and government. 😉
Source: https://thisrupt.co/current-affairs/reinventing-the-wheel-of-political-protest/
Considering their salary, I understand. I know quite a few cops in maha sarakam. We watch Muai Thai on Sundays, drink some beers (during service) and the chef recently gave me a police shirt. When you wear this and you encounter unknown officers who want something from you, no problem anymore, he said. They then call me and you are “family”. Also very handy 😉
You wonder how the policy is determined in Thailand with regard to the deployment of the police on priority crimes.
Of course there is always the question, with a limited number of police officers and budget, how you can fight serious crime, because that true crime is the most harmful in society. Consider, for example, the influence on traffic behaviour, whereby certain groups of users (including alcohol and drugs) cause many deaths and injuries. Also think of the kidnapping of small children who are resold and the crimes in the world of prostitution and forms of exploitation in all shapes and sizes, where many degrading situations can still be seen. The hard drugs problem and organized criminal groups, such as those motorcycle gangs. I can go on and on and a home burglary is certainly very bad, but often happens when people are not at home. In my opinion, this cannot be compared to other quantities. Think of the fight against white-collar criminals who only see money and do not care about the suffering in the population. The many loans at usurious rates. Homes can also be secured themselves, but that costs people money and they often don't have it or a lack of it. I have opted for a house in a moo track and can, so to speak, leave the door open at night. We have security guards and you pay for that, but I knew that from the start. I estimate that this will cost me about 179 baht per month, but then they are always there to supervise. If you start living outside such a moo job, you run more risk and actually the initiatives as we know them in the Netherlands with neighborhood prevention projects should also be introduced here. The municipality, police and citizens tackle matters together. Self-reliance is a great asset here and you can do a lot yourself in the absence of police or security guards. The fact that the police hire themselves out in the manner indicated here is objectionable. Think of conflicts of interest and preferential positions for those with more money. Security should not be categorized under the heading of the wealthy. This creates more dissatisfaction in society and that is one of the main issues that needs attention now if humanity is to have a better life. All forms of inequality are objectionable.
I honestly wonder what the task of the police is in Thai society. In the Netherlands this is clear: the task of the police, in subordination to the competent authority and in accordance with the applicable legal rules, is to ensure the actual maintenance of (public) order and to limit public danger and to provide assistance to those who do so. need. A whole sentence, but it does cover the load. We see with regret how this cargo is covered in Thailand and this is out of the question as far as I am concerned. I'm not saying that everything goes wrong, there are certainly good police officers who do their best and try to make something of it. But the money and a different perception of corruption and fraud are nevertheless determining factors, which are certainly embedded in Thailand and can be observed everywhere here.
This is a kind of PRIVATE security for everyone's house. The police come by at random times and write the time of arrival in the booklet. This takes about 2 minutes. They look around the house and leave for the next one. This is an extra income for the police people in the municipal police uniform. and this happens all over Thailand, including us. But the best guard is a large dog or two.
There you write something and that is correct and this private security does not belong in a police force, which is there to serve everyone equally, despite rank, color and religion. A serving task and that private task should take place at security companies. There are plenty of those in Thailand. There are cameras everywhere in Thailand and they are used eagerly by the police. This investigative tool has already yielded great success. It's simple yet effective. Securing your own home is therefore also possible in this way, in combination with other measures, of course. A surveillance round per night is a joke and a false sense of security, because the burglars know that too and they simply wait until the patrol has left and then make their move. A guard dog is certainly an option, but one that bites when it counts. In this context, a good neighbor is better than distant relatives. Caring for each other (helpfulness) must be encouraged. The immigration police in Thailand are busy keeping many police officers with administrative tasks. Tasks that are completely unnecessary and useless. Big Joke wanted to get rid of this to some extent and other interests prevailed. Incredible but true. A fair salary that should be offered to police officers. A few years ago I was treated to a true story. We had a small business and there was a bar next to us. This bar was regularly visited late at night by police officers in uniform, but with a civilian car. They came to collect their coffee money, because whether you like it or not, the extra income for the police was desperately needed to pay for all their concubines. When bar staff and the owner of the bar protested, three ladies were taken into the car and in a remote area two of the three were raped by the officers. The third was told to simply pay in the future, otherwise there would be more of these surveillance rounds. Yes, this is Thailand too and unfortunately the population has to make do with it.
For a good tenner a month I would love to be a friend of uncle agent, especially in a country like Thailand you never know when you need them ...