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Home » Visa question » Thailand Visa question No. 030/21: 8 months Netherlands and 4 months Thailand
Questioner: Eric
I have been living in Thailand for several years and have plans to work in the Netherlands for a few more years. Let's say 8 months in the Netherlands and 4 months in Thailand (4 months to see my family in Thailand again and to extend my annual visa).
Are there readers here doing the same, and what kind of rules am I running into?
Reaction RonnyLatYa
As far as the 4 month Thailand is concerned, as long as you don't forget to ask for a “re-entry” before you leave Thailand and you are always in Thailand afterwards to ask for your next year extension, there are no problems in that regard. I don't immediately see other things that you have to take into account in Thailand
As far as the 8 months in the Netherlands are concerned, I have no idea whether you have to take anything into account in the Netherlands, but your compatriots will be better informed than I am.
– Do you have a visa question for Ronny? Use it contact form.! -
Dear Erik, if you are only in the Netherlands for 4 months, you do not have to / cannot register in the BRP of your chosen municipality. Which means that nothing else changes in your legal and/or fiscal situation. Don't forget to take out health insurance in Thailand, because that is also not possible in the Netherlands if you are not registered in the Netherlands. In the past, I myself was back in the Netherlands for up to 4 months for several years, then stayed with family, also at holiday addresses. No need to report, no re-entries required, no digital notifications, just go ahead. Take into account the current corona measures, of course.
Maybe you should read the question carefully again.
The questioner is talking about 8 months in the Netherlands, not 4.
JohanR: the question is about 8 months In Nld and 4 months in Thailand. Not the other way around.
Erik wants to work in NL for 8 months p/y.
And if Erik stays in Thailand on a year extension basis and wants to keep it valid, Erik DOES need a re-entry for sure.
I understood that Erik is staying and working in the Netherlands for 8 months!
JohanR, I think everything remains the same if you are in the Netherlands for at least 4 months a year (and 8 months a year in Thailand). You remain compulsorily insured for medical expenses, you remain registered in the municipality where you live, and the year counts towards the AOW. If not, I'd like to hear about it.
Although the question was actually the other way around: 8 months in the Netherlands, 4 months in Thailand.
Dear Johan,
Erik does not want 4 months in the Netherlands and 8 months in Thailand. The so-called 4+8 to keep various benefits.
He wants the other way around, 8 NL and 4 Thailand.
And there can be important differences between them.
The questioner talks about 4 months in Thailand and eight (not four) months in the Netherlands. I think that, especially since it is confirmed with a work situation, that there will certainly be tax and health insurance consequences.
But maybe there are ways to get around that. I am aware of a case where a retired person had an appointment as a professor in the Netherlands while remaining under the tax umbrella of his country of residence outside the Netherlands. However, this man lived only a 4-hour flight from the Netherlands, which made it plausible that he only flew up and down for his lectures. With Thailand at a greater distance, this seems a bit more difficult.
Read Johan carefully Erik meant 8 months in the Netherlands and 4 months in Thailand
Hi Erik,
What I do is work in the Netherlands for 6 months from April to September and then live in Bangkok for 6 months from October to March with my Thai girlfriend.
I've been doing that for 6 years and I like it very much, because the cold period is gone from the Netherlands.
Arrange a visa at the Thai embassy in Kuala Lumpur or at the Singapore immigration office in Bangkok. Unfortunately waiting this year that I can go back home Bangkok.
Greetings
This Erik does that even though I don't work but I have a pension and state pension. Eight months NL and four months TH already throws a spanner in the works: I don't want to go to Thailand and bite my nails in an expensive hotel for 14 days.
So I am registered in NL, have a healthcare policy, pay the premiums and receive the healthcare, and I pay income tax, national and healthcare insurance and am entitled to a tax credit and some allowances. Like I've never been away and neither have you.
There is something else: you live so you have household contents insurance, private liability insurance, and ... well, you have lived in NL, I think, and know the mores through and through.
No problem. You can simply go to Thailand 4 months a year. In the Netherlands everything remains the same. You do not have to deregister. You do not need permission from the government (unless you receive benefits). Insurance continues. AOW accrual continues. I couldn't think of anything that could possibly cause problems.
For some visa rules I like to follow RonnyLatYa's tips. Furthermore, I think that (other) Erik at 13:59 puts it well. I don't know how other municipalities phrase it, but Rotterdam states that you must deregister if you are staying for more than 8 months without interruption. I hope it is clear that Erik the questioner is only outside the Netherlands for 4 consecutive months, with indeed the advantages mentioned by other Erik. In addition, I would like to inform the questioner that it is worth considering additionally buying travel insurance with medical cover. The limit for coverage there is often 6 months, so that's good. The advantage of this is that most health insurers only cover up to the Dutch price level and the travel insurer covers the rest, although I am not sure about that (point of attention). Private clinics in Thailand can be more expensive.
I also do not know how the Dutch health insurer calculates that, because some insurers only cover 75% of the Dutch costs (in the Netherlands) of non-contracted doctors / hospitals. It pays to inquire beforehand.
From my own experience I have heard that the travel insurer of DeFriesland does NOT cover the increased deductible if the health insurance is also with DeFriesland. Because DeFriesland is part of Achmea, and the latter has more insurers under its umbrella, it could well be that others also apply such a restriction.
Hi Eric,
Regarding address in the Netherlands, you don't have to have a house and everything, a POST ADDRESS!!!!!! is also good, you only get difficult.
Please note this is not a PO Box.
In the case of a postal address, the person you are 'registered' with is only responsible for ensuring that you receive your mail, no further loss of rental subsidy.e\d.
and you also keep all your rights.
And what is the purpose of a postal address? Can't follow you. Weird answer to Erik's question.
Peter, not all municipalities in NL allow a postal address. I don't consider it an option for an opinion.