My girlfriend is different, my neighbor thought for years
Lek and baby in happier times
Well not, so and I'll tell you why. My neighbor in Bangkok apparently lived neatly with his Thai girlfriend. He had known him for over eight years. They had been living together for about five years, and also with their son for almost a year.
No problem, I always thought. My neighbour, a 61-year-old German who retired early, thought so too. When I told him about the stories I'd picked up over the years about Thai ladies who didn't care about marital fidelity over a beer, he always got a bit grumpy. “There is something everywhere, but my wife is different. I have no reason to doubt her”, he snapped at me.
He had met Lek at a disco, where she expertly brushed off farang men who made advances. Stephan, my neighbour, liked that. With great difficulty he got into a conversation and that resulted in a wild night with the then 23-year-old student. She even introduced him to her aunt and uncle, who own a diner at 103 Sukhumvit. Her ethnic Chinese father was an emeritus professor of IT who had taught in the US, Sweden and China. Lek had grown up in Shanghai, together with her sister who was 10 years her junior.
The relationship went so well that Stephan finally made the decision to go to Thailand to move. It became a townhouse in a village at Sukhumvit 101. There he met friends and acquaintances of Lek. Every now and then a big fight broke out, because Lek had a short fuse and, jealous as she was, could explode without warning. But then the peace was invariably signed and the cuddling started again. Stephan bought a car for Lek and after moving to a detached villa, everything seemed to be fine. Well, every now and then a cloud dived in front of the sun. Then the car suddenly turned out to be financed or a lot of money had disappeared from her bank account. There was always a logical explanation. Lek had bought a piece of land near Udon, with a small bungalow for her mother. Stephan had gotten to know him by now and photos of the project underlined the story. Lek then remarked that she also had to take care of her own future. She had little contact with her father. He regularly had much younger girlfriends and had abandoned her mother. Stephan has never met the man in all those years. Given the background, he accepted Lek's decision. Lek did not smoke and had not drunk a drop of alcohol for almost three years. The fact that she occasionally played cards with friends and acquaintances did not bother her. She almost always came home with more money than she went with.
With that excuse she set up a business: lending money at 10 to 20 percent interest per month. Stephan wanted nothing to do with that, but put the money on the table. Lek then received a chanote as collateral and the customers signed a contract with a waiver. That went well for months.
Meanwhile, the family of Stephan and Lek had expanded with a blushing son. Stephan and Lek couldn't believe their luck and the world seemed filled with rose scent and moonshine. Stephan gave his girlfriend 20.000 THB pocket money every month. After the birth, Lek wanted to work. Although she has a university education, she has never worked a day. She was offered a job at an illegal casino for a daily payment of 2000 THB and 500 THB for expenses. Faithfully, that money was put in a savings account for the baby.
And then it went wrong. The baby's money turned out to have been loaned to the casino's manageress and a vaguely known lady had disappeared with half a million baht, intended to set up a spa. Lek was looked at. To make matters worse, the debtors turned out to be in need of money, so that source also dried up. Hastily, Stephan and Lek packed up some stuff and went into hiding in Pattaya. Lek continued to deny having gambling debts. After all, she worked in the casino and was therefore not allowed to play.
After two months, Lek took off with the baby. Stephan was left alone, not only a lot poorer, but also a number of questions richer. What went wrong? Lek had everything her heart desired. Fortunately, the creditors do not know where Stephan lives now. He heard through the fanfare that Lek had even borrowed 400.000 THB after she had had to leave Stephan's car at the casino as collateral. Lek had told Stephan that the car would not start and that a friend had taken it to a garage that evening. After all these years, her father turned out not to be her father, but a former boyfriend. Debtors had meanwhile repaid their debt, but that money had ended up in the pockets of the casino. Lek's whole life turned out to be a jumble of lies and fabrications. Stephan's suspicions were always appeased by a logical explanation.
Where Lek and their baby are now is a mystery. Perhaps Lek is now living with an Englishman, but where is not clear. Stephan has enlisted my help, but I can't help him in this case. He thought for years that his Thai girlfriend was 'different'. He seemed to be right after eight years. Her gambling addiction has cruelly disrupted that dream.
This also occurs in the Netherlands, only we farangs are easier to fool and it is also very difficult for us to recognize that something is wrong. Gambling, drinking, drugs and cheating, it happens all over the world.
I also continue to have my reservations about large age differences between the partners.
That's allowed, but I don't see what influence age difference can have on a gambling addiction. It is also definitely more difficult for us to recognize when something is wrong.
I don't think the age difference should be a big problem. I also have a much too young girl. A friend of hers (18 years old) also wanted a farang, named ATM.
So when I said that I still had an acquaintance with an interest in a Thai beauty, that was of course wonderful.
However, when the question was asked of how old, 24 years was the answer.
Can never be a good man, young foreigners don't want a Thai woman etc.
I have tried to explain that he has a good job, his own (mortgage) house does not look bad, etc. But no, never mind, well, well Amazing Thailand
I completely agree with the latter, it is also a pitiful sight such an old man with such a young thing, and then they also want a child.
And I don't feel sorry for him, it does indeed happen everywhere, but Thailand is known for the fact that many of those women do such things.
Come to Hua Hin a lot and hear a lot of stories about farang men that they have been tricked again…………but they never learn!!!!!!!!!!!
Do they also want a child? It was once explained to me (by a Thai) that if a Thai lady manages to give birth to a farang baby, this is not even because they really want a child.
With a hand tie, the farang may not run off so quickly with another Thai lady, offer enough
Nice idea, but in the case of my neighbor, the Thai guy ran off with the baby….
Yes, that's what I mean...maybe not quite well written.
But when a Thai meets a Farang and they only think it's settled for a while and they start talking about a child because then they have more certainty ...... they think.
Have seen this happen a few times around me.
And that man proudly walks next to him, with his child, on his old day.........it's okay, more grandpa than dad......sad, isn't it?
Malee doesn't quite understand what you mean, you can look at it left or right.
My dad recently turned 90 and I am 48 years old. I am the benjamin of 6 pieces. My sister now 65 just told me right in front of me. if mom and dad hadn't had that party then you wouldn't have been there.
So my dad was nip noi grandpa to me. I recently read an article about a woman, I believe 63, who had another child via IVF, simply wanting to have children.
When my ex had a fourth child, I said, now go call the hospital for sterilization.
My girlfriend says, when we are 3 years further I actually want a child, so I can call the hospital again. And it seems quite nice to me
From a farang point of view, everything the Thai ladies do is wrong, but the Thai are different in everything they do or think. Would it really be a false thought? A buddy of mine also quickly had a child from his girlfriend, who is not at all shy of money. Perhaps it was because he had never had a child. Moreover, every Thai lady knows that it must be a son, girls have little value for the gentlemen. In short, you shouldn't judge like that, because you don't know.
Also the above story, perhaps her husband was very rude to her or she was forced to do things in the house that she found shocking and gambling was her compensation. You do not know.
In a divorce within our circle of acquaintances, we also get to hear 2 different stories, who is just talking? In my opinion, there are 2 people who disagree with each other and if they don't want to, then they don't want to, no matter who is right (or bad) (Buddha says: you don't own anything).
@ Malee, typical narrow-minded western women's reaction to call everything pathetic and ridiculous regarding relationships between older men and young Thai women.
“You take care me, I take care you” is the basis of many happy relationships, in which both partners feel very comfortable. Also less happy relationships, of course, that's part of relationships, like everywhere in the world.
By the way, I often see older men with great pleasure dealing with their young children, maybe a second (third) chance for them?
Age difference simply plays a minor role when it comes to survival and social security. Women's choice of partner in the Western world was usually determined by this not so long ago. Emancipated and independent women with their own income naturally have different expectations of a relationship, but 'money' remains an important aspect.
And, Malee, women naturally remain attractive to men, regardless of age.
You know that right? Or is that no longer allowed if you have passed a certain age (which?)?
What age? In Thai you are already old at 30. Fortunately Western men think very differently about this. Almost all the farang I know, to my surprise, have a proportional relationship in terms of age, when they could pick every flower out of 20.
Yes gambling addiction (or really any kind of addiction) has screwed up many a relationship, not just in Thailand. We always hear the stories of "bad Thai boyfriend" but once at a Thai family's home a nice, beautiful young lady walks in. My Thai friend's brother starts swearing and single-handedly throws the lady out (literally). I couldn't quite follow it, but when asked, it was said “That was my ex, who gambled away our whole future and never lifted a finger for her child because she was too drunk. He never has to come back here.” She has been screaming in the street for an hour or so.
Lek must have left with the northern sun, person registration is very bad here so she can easily build a new life somewhere else. Loss of face.
Chang Noi
I think that when a Thai lady is not working, boredom sets in and the step to cards or other forms of gambling is quickly made. They don't have to worry about money and find new ways to spend their time.
There was no question of boredom in this case, with a one-year-old baby. Hands full, but still going for the big money…
I have some experience with compulsive gamblers. You can still heal the younger ones, but the older ones are difficult to turn. Especially those who have already won something, they are the worst to the moon.
The worst part is often the denial and the lying. Embezzling private and business money or taking things to the pawnshop. It's quite a tour with a Dutch woman, let alone with a foreign one.
Dear Hans, Very annoying for your friend. You come across dozens of stories like this in Pattaya. The bookshops there are also full of them. But what should we do with them? Should we all become neurotic and suspect our wives and girlfriends? Or worse (the reason I left Pattaya.
“They are all whores and not to be trusted” You can only be happy with confidence. A woman must indeed have something to do.
My wife works over 40 Rai land every day and does so to secure her future.
I can appreciate that because I don't have eternal life either.
My wife is no different from other women, maybe I am different.
40 rai land my girlfriend has less than a square meter of property, and I think that applies to a lot of people in the isaan
Many people in isaan are richer than you could ever dream Hans and that is the reality my wife also comes from that area and everywhere on websites and forums you hear those stories about poor isaan but I have been going there every year for 12 years and I see good infrastructure good roads new motosais and cars nl pick up trucks that the average western worker cannot afford.
As for the story of that poor man in the introduction, I read that she was apparently from a good background, chino thai, middle class, and then it comes down to the fact that it is about a hellion from Isaan who worked as a freelancer in a disco to make ends meet. I think there is something wrong with this story.
Long before Westerners washed up in Thailand and married Thai ladies from that poor area of Isaan, those people there could also make their plans food for thought so and for my work I often end up in third world countries and believe me there are worse places to live in this globe then isaan.
Those pick-ups are mainly from the bank. If there is wealth at all, it is because there is a sponsor, read farang. Look at the average salaries of a Thai. You really can't afford a pick-up from that.
@KhunPeter. I don't completely agree with you. You know that I have been living here in the middle of Isaan in a slightly larger village for years. Plenty of family and acquaintances.
Of course there is still a lot of poverty here (most rice farmers), of course most cars are financed, of course there are “sponsors”, but a very important part of the local population has small or larger businesses, shopkeepers (not the Aunt Emma shops, those don't earn a cent) garages, repair and rental of agricultural equipment, contractors, rubber builders (or rather the owners of the rubber plantations who lease them so much rai) fish ponds, resorts, building materials, etc. etc.
Some have a marginal existence, but quite a few are running very well and would like to show it.
There are some very successful transport companies in our village. An acquaintance has had a more luxurious coffee shop (no, real coffee) with pastries for the past 2 years. Her income is 30 to 40.000 baht per month, her husband still has a well-functioning transport company and properties in Udon. There are more like that.
Differences are big. In the very small villages there is indeed nothing, people have nothing but pure poverty. 10 km further in a slightly larger central village there is once reasonable prosperity. Families who have a lot of plots here and there, a lot of real estate, rentals, etc.
Remember that many people in Isaan have no permanent job at all, where they indeed earn the low salary you mentioned. They work with and with family. Many people are self-employed. One has pure poverty, the other runs excellent.
In our (central) village there are also many government services, a police barracks, etc. There, too, there are quite a few jobs that earn a lot more than the well-known low wages.
A beautiful Toyota or Isuzu pick-up can be leased with a 20% down payment for just over 10-11.000 baht per month, which the aforementioned Thais can apparently afford very easily. I even know families here where the man drives around in a luxury pick-up or voyager and the lady drives around in a Homnda City or something similar.
Moreover, more and more very decent houses, bungalows around 1 million or villas many times more expensive are being built here. Not by falangs but by Thais.
Drive along the roads from Bueng Kan to Phakat, Phonpisai, Nongkhai and various other routes. Take a look at what is suddenly being built along the Mekong between the old corrugated iron and wooden houses.
You can often read the wealth or poverty at the wedding of the children. (our village has 3 large halls/government buildings for rent) With one very simple with the other 750 guests and no savings are made on anything.
We know families in Royet, Mahaksalakam, Ubon, with their own businesses that are really not poor. Of course, life is much simpler than in NL, but they have no fixed costs, people live differently and can afford a lot.
But you are right, there are also many crippling cases who have to live on 6 – 8.000 baths per month per family or even less.
Incidentally, also in NL, the car is often owned by the bank, as is the house (while in Thailand it is much more often paid in cash, land is present within the family, etc.).
Check out small towns like Phonpisai. Suddenly there are 4 very large new petrol stations with all facilities, of course a large 7/11, a small Tesco Lotus, a large office of the Bangkok Bank, 10-15 ATMs, etc. Garages with equipment and facilities where a small dealer in NL is very would be proud of.
Developments are also going very fast in Isaan. Differences remain very large, or may become (temporarily?) larger than before.
Our village is smaller than Phonpisai, and of course much smaller than Bueng Kan or even Phakat, but even we have received all amenities in the last 7 years, good roads, large central schools, 5 very reasonable resorts and simple restaurants, 4 stretches of road through the village and more and more companies, 2 banks, 4 ATMs and many owners of brand new very luxurious Toyota Vigo's pickup trucks with or without 4 wheel drive.
The 10 to 15 falangs who live here are not necessarily the richest residents of the village.
Nowadays you can write very differently about the Isaan, depending on where you live and whether you look to the left (very poor) or to the right (sometimes quite wealthy).
In "rich" Bangkok, millions of people live in slums that may be worse off than the average Isaner. But then that may be Dad or daughter from the Isaan who send their income home. That is of course still the case.
My girlfriend is from the Isaan23 km from Udon thani. At the age of 14 she had to leave school to work. 3000 thb for 12 hours a day a 6 days a week. She and her mother now have a motorbike from this sponsor. I estimate that there are about 10 cars driving around in her entire village. Indeed, a few wealthy farmers live there.
You can no longer call Thailand a real 3rd world country, but there is still poverty there. The advantage of the Isaan compared to a sandbox country in Africa is of course that there is still something growing and blooming left and right.
And as Khun Peter rightly points out, most cars belong to the bank, but that also applies to Germany, the Netherlands, etc.
In her village people just talk openly about the fact that the woman/daughter should go to the farang as soon as possible.
Families put money together to make this happen.
so there is indeed money in poor isaan????
Certainly there is money in the Isaan, I have seen cars driving around there that you only see in the showroom in the Netherlands and not on the road. Biggest point is that a small part of the population
has a lot, and a large part has very little.
It's a shame when I see that my girlfriend couldn't continue learning, it sometimes even makes me a bit faint. incredibly intelligent shame that this is not being picked up by the Thai government.
Picked up by the government?
In such governments, the motto is: divide and conquer. And that only works very well by keeping people stupid.
I also had to leave vocational school at the age of 14 to go to work and earned 14 GLD in the week that was in the Netherlands in 1951, but we had no car, there was no assistance and neither AOW, so what is the difference with Isaan? there are many Dutch people who are poorer than those Thais who also live here and the reason they stay here is that you can still live reasonably well on your meager income
Theo, the difference with Isaan is of course that the period in the Netherlands that you write about is more than 60 years ago and in the meantime a lot has happened in the field of emancipation, deprivation, social insurance, minimum income, pension, etc. in the Netherlands and As far as I know, hardly anything has happened in Thailand (Isaan).
The farmers in Isaan in particular still live in feudal conditions, where they have to pay large sums of rent for their rice fields to a small group of large landowners and have to sell their votes to political parties, which only strengthen the position of the rich. Unions play no role here. There is no socialist movement at all; all politics here is neoliberal a la Thatcher: the rich must become (even) richer and the poor are left to fend for themselves. Have you ever heard the 'red' leaders talk about concrete political program points such as land reform, greater accessibility to better education, corruption everywhere so that funds intended for farmers do not reach them, (micro)credits for business operations professionally supervised, remission of poorly spent debts incurred during the Thaksin regime etc. etc?
No. Thai politics is only about a struggle between political families, who fight each other for power.
And, poverty is a relative concept. For a poor Isaan farmer, a family on welfare in the Netherlands is a reasonably prosperous family, but for us Westerners it is real poverty.
Welfare families in the Netherlands do not have to en masse let their daughters work as 'bargirls' in the big city. I think that is one of the essential differences.
bebe, don't stare blindly at the outward appearance.
There are many who have to borrow their land to keep their heads above water so that they can buy 1 small tractor because they can no longer manage with the buffalo.
Many idiots who are now trying to gouge out the eyes of the environment with their pick-up are the poorest of the future.
In their greed for money they have now squandered their country to enjoy 1 temporary wealth.
The annual yield of their land is just enough for them to get around the year.
Take a look around at the motors without license plate and key, they are not as noticeable as the shiny new pick-up.
By experiencing all this myself I have now started 1 project in which many people from the village participate by collecting land together to do what they can spare.
I enable them to get 7 large yield from this after 1 years.
These people's misfortune is that they have no money to invest, lack the knowledge and have no connections.
I don't have money either, but the connections do, so everything is going so far
it is good that more and more families want to participate now that they see the first results.
my house in Belgium is 250 square meters in size and some of those people who are so poor own hundreds of square meters of land that is why I admire those people for their cleverness.
and then they sell a piece of building land to the 65 year old farang husband for a few hundred thousand baht from the family that their wife would later inherit anyway.
When I was little my parents made me show respect and be polite to the elderly and now I am 36 years old and I know teenagers in Belgium who are more intelligent than some older Westerners in Thailand.
pim you have to google jatropha bush, that's what thailand is going to be THE plant of the future. only those thai haven't figured it out yet.
thank you for your interest.
It's 1 good tip.
I myself am working on something similar and the Thais have never heard of it either.
When I read a report on Google that they have already stopped, it seems very difficult to find investors.
I let the people invest themselves from 100 Th.B. and land that is not in use, so they also keep their pride and the family likes to participate.
I provide good guidance and purchase of their product.
It was a lot of fun to make the headmaster look like a joker.
The man stood there for a moment disapproving our water pipe in front of many people before it was in use.
He was allowed to come back the next day and to the delight of those present, it works perfectly.
You understand that I now have a lot of respect, also from the headmaster.
This is also an example that the average headmaster, whom everyone does not dare to argue with, has not gone beyond primary school with us.
And I don't have to buy or rent land.
I once heard that on every plane that comes from the west there are 4-5 men who have the same thing happen to them. My only question is whether it is because of the women here or are those men a bit stupid. I have a friend who has was retired for a few months, about 13 years ago he also came to Thailand and fell head over heels in love in the very first bar. The woman was immediately decorated with gold by her future ex. Within no time she came to the Netherlands and started almost immediately to force her 3 children to also come to the Netherlands, which cost the man a lot of money, even though he knew he wanted to live in Thailand at the age of 65. Smart?? The lady also thought it was necessary to go out every weekend and preferably alone Understandably, this marriage did not last long, but what I want to say is this: if I don't feel like going out, then my wife doesn't actually want to go alone either. We have a car together that we almost always use. use it together, only if my wife or I have to go shopping or something, then that person takes it with them. If my wife or I need money, it is simply taken from the account in consultation. My question now is: Are we being so degenerately old-fashioned? because my wife doesn't want to leave alone, she doesn't have her own car??? and not getting pocket money every month (thought this was only for the children) ???? I don't know, but I already have my doubts about many relationships on the first day. Many men fall in love on the first day and in such a way that they get butterflies in their stomach as if they had been able to meet for the first time in their lives. And for most men it is wise to meet a woman with a short fuse in a bar, have breakfast together in the morning and wish her a very happy future and not think that it will change or go away. That's how it was. my gospel about men with gambling addictions or women who want to go away alone with their own car and pocket money for which they normally have to work for 3 months and now receive about gk per month
Nice gospel. What bible is this from? 🙂
There will be more good life lessons in it…
Proverbs are also life lessons. Have you heard that a kt can pull faster than 10 horses.
Henk, I also know cases where I think, what a sucker you are, putting your last pennies in a house on your girlfriend's land, etc. Unfortunately, nature invents crazy things. Most men just follow their little boy.
If, as an older man, you also score a nice tight young thing with those heavenly deep black bambi eyes, in which you drown.
Well, I understand 100%.
Why do I understand that? It happened to me too.
Am I a loser then?? I can totally say yes.
Why do I say that.
I made the biggest mistake of my life 26 years ago, getting married in community of property with a Dutch woman. Divorce are you crazy!! after all, my girlfriend at the time and now my ex was also different from the rest.
That cost me 50.000,00 euros, I can do a lot of crazy things for that in Thailand.
Thailand nip noi same thailand and the rest of the world.
I am always amazed at the reactions, in which one and more are explained.
Of course, situations like this occur all over the world, I just haven't run into them yet, except in Thailand.
And for the whitewashers, that's pure coincidence!
Thai girls are not Western girls. Not now, not ever. What's in the head isn't in the butt. Regardless of what anyone else thinks or whatever the consequences may be. Studied or not, doesn't matter. And with a farang they get all the space (read, among other things, wasting money) while they get zero space with a Thai. This is MY general impression and does not apply to everyone.
An older woman can be more moderate and sensible than a younger one and will be more caring I think. Anyway, my wife is older 40+ and is also regularly "crazy". But it certainly doesn't play bad tricks and doesn't touch the bottle either.
occurs everywhere sailed in the past, from the age of 16 to the age of 60 and let me tell you a few things that I personally experienced: England, sailed with a Chinese pumpman, lived on a Norwegian ship and was married to an English woman signed off and came home opened the door other people in the house because wifey had sold the house and was in the pub a few doors down singing and drinking went straight to the airport bought ticket Hong Kong and got arrested because that bitch had called the police for desertion of husband but he was released and now lives in Hong Kong.Norway:Noor sent all his wages home in a joint bank account with his wife comes home wife and money gone had to borrow money to survive 2 weeks later called and asked if she could come back because the money was on a stump in the head and he closed the door ,was 1962 and sent my wages to a girorek.in A'dam but in my name I sailed on a Shell tanker after 3 months on my way home got a telegram that the engagement was off because I didn't trust her because she couldn't get money from the bill, met a businessman who had lost everything to a Greek singer in a nightclub in R'dam and was still walking around with her photo married him for a Dutch passport-was mid 1960-she had tried it with me first but that didn't work, can't go on like this but the bottom line is if you go to the pub anywhere in the world it costs you money don't cry shrug your shoulders and move on with your life.
I could also tell an even more impressive story of what happened to me in the Philippines and that cost me a bit more than 50.000 Euro, but I don't feel like rehashing it all again, ashamed of my own gullibility and laziness to to choose the right people and lawyers. And that was not about a love relationship or something like that, but about an ordinary friendship agreement.
I have been to the Philippines a lot and I have the strong impression that many Filipinas are still a lot more unreliable and more inventive in inventing all kinds of 'stories' and lies than many Thai women. But yes, you are treading on thin ice when you generalize and compare, which is why I want to express myself somewhat cautiously.
I think you should start by wondering where did I first meet my Thai girlfriend and what is her background. A bar lady in general has a lot of people skills and is seasoned, no matter how young she is. It is a prostitute with a clientele that she plays with the 1 goal of money. To enter into a relationship with such a girl you have to be in your shoes and find out if she can really say goodbye to her world.
My Thai wife took a gamble with me.
@bebe i am the same age and funny to read
3 years Yemen / 1 year Moldavia / 1 year Brazil
I totally agree with this and your previous post
especially your last sentence
Hallo,
I myself live in cambodia, am belgian and have a thai girlfriend and a daughter of 1.5 years.
I run a guesthouse and living together, working together and especially the financial pressure of the family has ensured that our love flame is extinguished.
Now it's her, with my daughter, who only has a thai passport, kicked off, to thailand...
Communication via the telephone is very difficult with yelling and ranting.
At first she didn't want to say where the little one is.. Now she says she gave us a daughter who has money and would be responsible for the upbringing.
This is not necessary at all as I can take care of the upbringing myself. I get more and more the feeling that my child has been kidnapped. She also says that she will change her name, which of course is not possible. As a precaution, I was able to hide official documents because you never know.
Does anyone know what my rights are? Oh yes, we weren't married...
What should I do?
i'm afraid there's nothing you can do, you weren't married, you're in cambodia, and your ex and your daughter are thai and have thai rights, i'm afraid the thai gouvement or the belgian embassy can't do anything for you do, strength
Yep, doesn't look good indeed….now know where they are and the contact is going well…keep calm and get on with life…no choice….thank you for your answer….
Don't think you can do anything. Not officially married. Been through several cases here. Unmarried means woman goes to the church with one or two witnesses, declares that she takes care of child alone. Mother gets sole rights to the child about the same day. Even if the father is on the birth certificate.
If you are married and you take care of the child financially, then the court will be involved and the child will also be assigned to the mother. Especially if the father is a falang.
Only if everything goes with the cooperation of the mother can a child become a father
pointed out. However, I do not yet know a falang pa who has been assigned a Thai child.
My friend's daughter no longer wanted her father's name, she now has my name, she just can't pronounce it.
My girlfriend also wanted a name change.
No problem, piece of cake after collecting some papers.
it was done within a few hours.
Stay strong .
even if we applied for her passport at the thai embassy? that is an official document….In cambodia it would not be difficult…but from thailand…that shocks me….