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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Why is immigration in Chiang Mai difficult?
Reader question: Why is immigration in Chiang Mai difficult?
Dear readers,
We are on holiday from Buriram by motorcycle to ao. Chiangmai and Pai, now November 29th was my 90 day report. So I thought; I just go to immigration in Chiangmai (the last 2 times just online).
Now Chiangmai apparently has two immigration offices, one near the airport and one in the Promenade complex. So I go to Promenade. There they casually tell me to fill out a TM30, have it stamped at the airport, then come back.
I made it clear to them that I am only passing through to Pai. So not 90 days. Online I can't get in anymore because I'm probably too late.
Come back in the course of next week; what will this cost, and why are they making a fuss about this?
Regards,
Lunghan
They make trouble everywhere. Some (corrupt) immigration offices
ask extortionate prices for a visa extension.
On Koh Samui they have now “hidden” the office in one
side alley of Maenam and must
you now have to bring a ridiculous amount of papers with you
to be eligible for a one-year extension, including a
health certificate, which must be drawn up by a hospital.
A doctor is not enough. They also want an X-Ray.
Thailand not only scares away tourists, but also tries from people
come off, that one
want to stay or live here longer.
She's going to break that one day.
I don't know what you mean by hidden in a side alley. First in Nathon, not easy to get to and not centrally located and an office where you couldn't move your ass. Now in a large building centrally located with ample parking, an outside restaurant, an office to make copies and passport photos and plenty of tables to fill out forms. I don't know what you mean by an X-Ray, just visit Bandon hospital for example and you are outside again ten minutes later with a certificate of health. Only blood pressure, on the scale and visit a doctor for a signature and stamp.
Before you do the extension, ask for the list with the points on it, which you must provide. Not taking what they want to see and then blaming immigration.
The property in Maenam is indeed very large, but the handling is still a mess.
Indeed ample parking in a mud puddle (20 baht) but oh well it rained hard.
Normally that won't be a problem.
Present on Thursday with:
house book
passbook
letter from the bank
statement from the bank
Google earth print WITH coordinates
(had to make a drawing/map of the area on site)
And don't forget copies of all signed documents.
Everthing allright. Would take 30 minutes. After an hour and a half it was said:
"Come back on Tuesday, we're too busy"
Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday closed. Public holidays.
Today, back on Tuesday, in the pouring rain.
Pile of papers lay untouched in the same place.
Pay 2000 baht and sit down. After an hour and a half finally passport with
the visa back. Of course it was busy.
I was still surprised that I didn't have an "overstay" :
Next time will try in Bandon hospital, if that hospital is still
accepted, because the rules change daily.
Dear Lunghan,
You do not need to fill in Tm30 because your 'landlord' has to do that. You then ask your landlord or hotel for a copy of the receipt that the owner received for the payment he made after submitting the TM30. The immigration service in the Promenade will send you to the police station at the old immigration service at the airport and if you know the name of the hotel or room landlord they will look it up in the computer and give you a copy PROVIDED the landlord has submitted that TM30 form . Not all that simple, but that rule is relatively new. And above all, don't get excited, but remain calm and polite!
From Buriram? So Buriram is the residence? If so then it is next to impossible to report 90 days anywhere else within the kingdom. 90 day reporting is rarely accepted by “other immigration offices”. If it works, then you are lucky.
Normally you always have to do this at the immigration office in the region where you live and also make the other reports, and also obtain the extension of stay.
Alternatives are:
- By post (provided the local office accepts this) that should have been done at least 15 days before the reporting day.
-Report online (but you are already unsure whether you will be on time). When reporting online, you have up to 7 days before the reporting day. After one day late, i.e. 6 days before the reporting day, the report will no longer be accepted online.
-When you return from vacation, you have up to 7 days after the reporting day at your local office to do it personally. If you are later, it will sometimes work if you explain the situation and tell them that you have indeed made an effort to comply with the report, not all civil servants are annoying or incomprehensible.
-Do not report at all, and take the risk that on a subsequent report it may lead to a fine of B2000, which I believe seems to be the standard amount for "this offence".
Disclaimer: There will be exceptions as with anything in Thailand.
I will NEVER go myself again but let a befriended moped taxi driver do it for me in Chaeng Wattana. Never had any problems.
Dear Lunghan,
The only thing I can tell you and therefore emotionally support is that misery due to bullying, harassment and corruption is also growing in Khon Kean.
It becomes more difficult to extend your visa without paying a lot. The 90-day notification is also becoming more difficult to obtain a new insert without any problems
Some people waited all day because they were not willing to pay a bribe. They give priority to well paying people.
I think it would be a good idea to keep track of complaints and experiences about immigration offices on this blog, so that we are stronger together.
In other words, a file on this blog about immigration complaints.
It seems to me that it really is a task for the embassy to record and denounce these kinds of complaints. I am convinced that most people on this blog will recognize my story, including your experience.
a good greeting from Danny
And then they are surprised that they have declining tourist numbers
A little service should be possible, right? And then that 90 day notification, what kind of bullshit is that? What is it for? People with a Yellow book must also register, total nonsense.
People supposedly know where you are, but in 90 days you can be anywhere in Thailand! It is nonsense, and it looks very much like bullying.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't identify with all these stories. I/we live in Hua Hin (both are farang) and have never had any trouble here at Immigration. You will always be treated politely here and if you ask something, they will also help you politely. If you make sure you have the right papers with you, you will basically be outside again within 5 minutes. And all this without bribes or the like. We are happy that we live in Hua Hin.