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Home » News from Thailand » Short news » Family of British tourist who died in Thailand needs £ 30.000
Last Wednesday in Pattaya, 38-year-old British tourist Stephen Campbell from Blackpool died in a tragic jet ski accident. The incident took place at Tawaen Beach (Koh Larn).
The man was with friends for a three-week vacation in Pattaya. The fatal accident happened on the fifth day of his stay. The victim hit a rope of a boat that was about to anchor. He suffered a long cut on his neck and lost a lot of blood as a result. Stephen died in the hospital in Pattaya.
As it turned out, the man had not taken out travel insurance. The repatriation of the remains to England will have to be borne by the family. Total cost: 30.000 pounds, almost 36.000 euros. The family does not have that money and has now started a fundraising campaign.
You can read more in this article from the Daily Mail
Own fault, but bad for the bereaved who are now saddled with high costs.
A very sad event. My condolences to the bereaved. Still a few question marks though. First of all, a repatriation of a mortal remains, as far as I know, normally costs between 10 and 15 thousand euros. That £30.000 seems like a lot to me. Second, the victim knowingly (or unknowingly) took the risk because he did not take out travel insurance. That costs as much as 1 beer a day. Doesn't seem useful to me.
Travel insurance also makes exceptions for activities or sports such as jet skis, read policies and then you wonder when they DO pay..
It is different for everyone, but for myself repatriation upon death is not necessary ….; dead is dead. But everyone's beliefs are different, I can understand, but then you have to run a financial risk yourself.
How sad for the family. After all, they want to bury their loved one at home, who doesn't?
This makes it clear once again that rash travel is never responsible.
Not for yourself (suppose you are saved, those costs must also be paid),
but also not for those who care about you (cost of repatriation).
Be insured at all times.
On the other hand, 'going on a journey' and 'brashly plunging into an adventure' can also have disastrous consequences. Mean by this, never go jet skiing just like that, an accident happens quickly.
Be aware!
Hopefully the collection will be okay and the family members can still say goodbye in all serenity.
Always sad, such an event. I read in the relevant newspaper article that the man owned a hairdresser's shop - then there is also an estate from which costs can be paid?
Personally, I wouldn't want to contribute to his return – after all, he himself chose not to insure himself against such costs.
R.I.P.
But maybe now we understand why the non-state hospitals in this country ask for advances, especially from foreigners. Do we now understand why every now and then a Thai minister calls out that he/she wants a check at the border for the presence of a health care or travel policy and, if necessary, wants to make a policy mandatory in the absence of one.
The private hospitals have learned their lesson and people in acute need are victims of that, as we remember from the NL journalist who was refused in Pattaya while he was dying.
Every medal has two sides.
@,
But not when people have to perform life-saving actions in the hospital, but don't do them because they don't get money directly.
Then that's a shame.
And as Kuhn Peter says that repatriation of a body costs about 10-15.000 euros, then the rest will be hospital costs.
Then that is also quickly earned if they get that money.
Also don't think that the remains will be delivered earlier.
LOUISE
Nice reactions, lessons learned, blame myself I read elsewhere. We can also turn it around. Boats are allowed to lie on the water there and nowhere else! That's a jet ski area and nowhere else! If a Thai travel companion wants to travel to Schengen countries, a travel insurance of at least 30.000 euros must be submitted when applying for a visa. Would the Thai government also make these 3 points mandatory first (or by law) there would be fewer accidents at sea, fewer deaths and there would be no nagging or discussions about hospitals yes or no. Is the Thai so stupid to introduce these simple things or are we so smart? One would think after all those incidents… yes, not!
Dear Hans,
Assuming the above applies to my comment.
“It is logical that they ask for money in advance, but if they do not receive it, then one can literally and figuratively drop dead.”
which is a gross shame.
I think I expressed myself a bit crooked.
And loss of income??
If they can drop just over 60.000.– baht with the price for 1 treatment?
LOUISE
Dear Hans,
Most self-respecting doctors adhere to the Doctor's Oath, or rather, the Hippocratic Oath.
When a doctor refuses to treat a person in need, this falls under the doctor's oath rather than the hospital's intake policy. The latter is regrettable in Thailand. Even the addition of 'worthy' in deplorable seems inappropriate to me. So far my vision.
As you write, the private hospitals book off defaulters in their annual balance sheet. These loss items are then passed on to the paying patient. After all, these 'companies' are profit-oriented. You could even say that, apart from healing patients, they mainly want to satisfy their shareholders.
In our region, not only as a doctor, you could be convicted under civil law for 'culpable neglect' for refusing to admit a patient in need. That's what you mean (?), and I totally agree.
Davis.
Many people who live abroad may have good funeral insurance, but the costs of transporting a body are often not considered, or your next of kin pay for these (not insignificant) costs. You can take out insurance for this. This insurance covers repatriation of a body worldwide and the transfer of 1 family member. The costs for 2014 amount to 48,48 euros + one-off 4 euros policy costs per year. I think that this way you save your relatives a lot of misery.
Dear Dirk,
A funeral parlor. I have in the Netherlands
but no repatriation….
what is the name of the consignment?
regards, Jan
5 weeks vacation and then skimp on travel insurance. Have experienced that before in Switzerland. Also there first pay at the hospital before they even started. Sad for the relatives, but I do not understand to saddle your family with these expenses for roughly 4 euros.
Would like to note that not all travel insurance policies have the same terms and conditions. The use of a jet ski falls under dangerous sports with some insurers and reimbursements due to an accident with a jet ski are therefore excluded, unless specifically co-insured. So know what you are and are not insured for. Can also apply to accidents with a (rental) motorcycle when you are not in possession of a valid driver's license!
It is incomprehensible to me that you are going to go on holiday without taking out travel insurance, it is asking for trouble or burdening any surviving relatives.
It is different for expats, you may or may not purchase private insurance.
Shouldn't you be missing anything special, because anything that can even be indirectly related to a pre-existing "disease" is simply not paid.
I find it incomprehensible that private hospitals send people in need, these hospitals also receive emergency payments according to the state rates.
But that is not enough for these grabbers, you can die.
It is time for the Thai government to introduce compulsory insurance for all expats.
An insurance in the spirit of compulsory road insurance would be fine, while a premium between 600 and 1000 baht per month would cover the average.
I have been told that a group of state hospitals is indeed in the process of creating such a thing.
This would mean that when extending the extension of stay, or being included in the population register, not only an income or asset statement must be submitted, but also proof of insurance.
I wonder how many of the expats responding here are insured. I'm totally curious about how and where.
To give you an example @ BerH, I am insured for free and through the gold credit card of my bank in Europe!
As a Belgian expat with main residence in Belgium, you have, just like Belgian tourists, the compulsory health insurance through the health insurance fund for 76 € (+/-?) per year.
You can then sleep soundly. Costs of hospitalization and repatriation are fully borne by the health insurance fund, internationally via MUTAS.be. There is even a funeral allowance.
There is automatic travel insurance if you pay for your plane ticket with your credit card, the conditions differ per credit company.
Also insured when traveling through the family insurance.
If you have fire insurance with a theft supplement, you are also covered abroad.
You also have a Belgian current account, there is also basic insurance that covers accidental death, which can be expanded as desired.
Have we not forgotten the hospitalization insurance via the employer?
Of course there is only 1 insurance company that actually pays out, they will find out among themselves who exactly.
You are sometimes overinsured faster than you think…
Last year in a television program by Max a lot of people go out without insurance.
A couple in Spain thought they were insured, but they were not supplementary insurance. Now only dock 20.000 euros. Wrong cut we have world coverage ourselves.
Some don't think.
Recently my husband had to be in hospital in Bangkok nightmares no money enough in wallet I say you stay here hotel is around the corner. Turned out that all together less than 30 euros. Doctor photos medicines and priority everywhere a sister went along. Card for if he still has trouble calling the next day, I will come right away, fortunately not necessary. Fee under deductible so travel insurance paid with no problems.
Why did I never get involved with that Pattaya beach mafia? Because for me, a warned person is better again. Just going abroad without travel insurance. I was about to say something, but out of respect I'll keep my mouth shut.
Tragic case.
Nothing but good about the dead. But we know he has been irresponsible. But he is not alone…
The family would like him back and that costs money. I'm sorry but that money would be much better spent on something of use. For example, the education of poor children in the third world (who sometimes cannot even go to school).
But I understand that the parents want their son back. But then they have to pay for this themselves and not put it on the plate of others. I also feel some irresponsibility here. It runs in the family…
As a pensioner, I have hospitalization insurance with a European company that has sufficient coverage. As a long-term resident, it is irresponsible not to have hospitalization insurance
Should indeed be part of the extension terms.
We also always have good insurance. We go to Thailand every year and have a continuous travel and cancellation insurance. You never know what can happen an accident is in a small corner. It is certainly sad for the fam, but you also have your responsibility. At least that's how we think about it. You can't saddle someone else with such problems.
Dear Mary. You couldn't have said it better. My gratitude !. Of course you don't go on vacation to look for your death?. And of course you are not going to take out travel insurance because you are very sure that it can never happen to you?. Certainly not. Maybe that insurance was just… forgotten?. Could also be good?
Completely contrary to your correct view, I find it very unfortunate that there are bloggers who immediately pull out all the stops, condemn and point the finger at it. Looking objectively and just sticking to the theme is not possible for everyone?
£30.000 smells like thai scam again
Because one always has to take into account the unfortunately inevitable, and in order not to burden my supporters with costs, when I deregistered and left Belgium at the population service, I registered my wish not to be repatriated in the event of death, but cremation (do not want to swarming critters of all kinds around and inside me, even though I'm dead).
And they had to adapt to that because their choice menu on PC was not provided, so it became cremation with a choice of place free with the ashes (?!) ….
By the way, I once read somewhere on a holiday website that after cremation you can personally take this packaged urn with you on a plane at no extra cost…, you will probably receive a document for the checking customs…..
my friend passed away in thailand after a heart attack
as his family did not care about him, we had him cremated in Thailand
his ashes now light at the temple in Sawang northern Thailand
cost incl. party 10,000 nBath
I'm sure this was also my friend's wish