Thailand has a lot to offer in the field of medical care. The famous Bumrungrad International Hospital is a striking example of this. This hospital, which focuses on medical tourism, has worldwide fame and is considered one of the best hospitals in the world.

Bumrungrad Hospital is an internationally recognized hospital, located in the center of Bangkok. Opened in 1980 and today the largest private clinic in Southeast Asia.

If you are not yet impressed? Here some numbers:

  • More than 1 million patients per year.
  • Of which 400.000 are foreigners from 190 different countries.
  • 3.400 employees (900 nurses).
  • 554 beds and more than 30 specialized centers.

Bumrungrad is a publicly traded company.

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32 responses to “Bumrungrad International Hospital: a top hospital (video)”

  1. Maarten says up

    Unfortunately, quantity does not always equate to quality. They do everything they can to sell you as many pills as possible and keep you coming back as often as possible. I now have extensive experience with that. Peter writes it already: listed. Give me St. Louis on Sathorn Road.

  2. HansNL says up

    I still can't really understand what "people" have with those medical companies. What people never seem to want to understand is that making a profit in these factories comes first, the “good” name comes second, and the patient comes third.
    For the first, almost everything has to give way, for the second there is a considerable cover-up, and for the third there is the care that he wants to pay, albeit governed by the first two considerations.
    Top hospital?
    Have others heard a few things here and there that certainly can't get me to report myself there as a patient….ehhhhhhh…..customer!
    That so many people are tempted to run away with the private hospitals in Thailand is a complete mystery to me.
    Money can buy everything?
    Yes, but how?
    Peter, of course understand that the progression of private hospitals in Thailand automatically means that the general population having to visit state hospitals and university hospitals could well mean that care for the common man/woman will cease.
    Therefore, I do not think this advertisement for that medical factory belongs in a blog that considers Thailand (Thai people?) of paramount importance.
    So I just go to a state hospital, or to a university hospital, with which I still contribute to the continued payment of care for the common man by paying the (low) costs.

    • @ HansNL. The majority of visitors to this blog are tourists. They are usually well insured and want to go to a hospital where English is spoken. Then Bumrungrad is not a bad option. In that case, they are responsive to Western tourists and communication with insurers in the West.

    • Robert says up

      There is also another side to the story. I am insured through a Thai employer for treatment in a Thai state hospital. In addition, I have an international private health insurance that also covers hospitals such as Bumrungrad. If I do not get treatment in a state hospital, I will not be a burden to the Thai system (indeed, the system that most Thais rely on) and the costs for my treatment there can be paid for Thais with less financial resources. I'm fine with the fact that there are multiple systems and choices.

      • Hans Bos (editor) says up

        As usual, the coin has two sides. The successful private hospitals do indeed suck good doctors away from state institutions. That is known. On the other hand, private hospitals can provide treatments that are difficult or impossible elsewhere. And that without waiting lists.
        I prefer to visit the Bangkok Hospital in Thailand than a random hospital in the Netherlands. I don't prefer Bumrungrad because of the large numbers of Arab patients, the women of which are not only wrapped from head to toe in a parakeet cage, but even wear an iron mask. While hubby walks in shorts.
        Incidentally, private hospitals in Thailand are still mostly visited by Thai people. Although these hospitals have a profit motive, they usually provide better care.

        • andrew says up

          in thailand you can walk everywhere in shorts as long as you have money in your pocket. These Arab people are free to dress up as they want. Dutch people watch out for that little finger.

      • HansNL says up

        If you are treated in a private hospital, you do not tax the state hospital.
        But by going to a private hospital you do not pay for the system.
        The costs you pay in the state hospital, if not Thai, are the actual costs with a "profit" margin, and thus benefit the system.
        If you have insurance, it becomes very interesting for the state hospital, because the rates for the insurance companies are higher.
        If you go to a private hospital, your money will disappear into the pockets of shareholders or heavily overpaid doctors.
        What you're saying about freeing is a fallacy.
        If no extra money comes in, the supply will become less and less, after all, the budget will increase less due to the proliferation of private health care
        There is simply no money available because I am not going to the state hospital, but money will be added.
        After all, if the budget is 1000 baht, just to name a few, and I add 100 (the “profit margin”) baht through my payment, then there is 1100 baht.
        If I don't come, it will remain 1000 baht.
        Don't say that the costs are higher, I have already paid them!
        The provision of multiple systems in the healthcare system automatically results in a shrinkage of the healthcare offer and the costs skyrocketing.
        See the US and the current situation in NL for this.
        Yes, I also have insurance, from Bupa, and I still go to the state hospital.
        What I have experienced so far does not give me the idea that I should go to a private company if necessary.

        • Robert says up

          @ HansNL – “But by going to a private hospital you do not pay for the system either.” Nonsense, so I do pay for the system through my Thai employer every month.

          • HansNL says up

            In my eyes there is nothing wrong with making a profit.
            Even find it very tasty.
            However, there are sectors in society that should be kept clear of the so-called market forces.
            Example?
            Public transport, mail, health care.
            Even in the US the postal service is a government company, and so is Amtrak railroads.
            And in healthcare, the number of government clinics is increasing.
            Must be good for something.
            I don't really understand what your comment about communism has to do with this discussion, if I may call it that.
            Perhaps you mean to accuse me of being a communist?
            Because I don't approve of the rampant wistfulness of many?
            And market forces the only way to work efficiently?
            Like the far-reaching fragmentation of public transport in the Netherlands?
            Or the fragmentation of the railways in England?
            Can I summarize it like this?
            The consequences of liberalization cost the taxpayer more if it is not liberalized.
            Public transport in the Netherlands has become about 22% more expensive, no longer from the state rack, but from the provincial rack, but from the pocket of the taxpayer.
            In my view, health care, driven by insurance companies on the one hand and shareholders on the other, is a nonsense.
            And that has nothing to do with communism, but with a sense of reality.
            And as for staying in a state hospital, there are also private rooms with air conditioning, TV, refrigerator, bathroom.
            With a realistic price.
            And Robert, apologies, I had overlooked that you were insured through the employer.
            However, in my case, and with me many, are not insured through the employer, are insured with a Thai insurance, or perhaps not insured at all.
            And I meant that group.
            Example:
            Identical operation.
            State Hospital 82000 baht, all inclusive
            Private hospital 221000 baht.
            Including private room, and an extra day at the state hospital.
            Yes, also the same doctor!!!!!!!
            Would I then be allowed to say that the private hospital is too expensive, or perhaps even steals from the insurance company?
            Or from the wallet of the “customer”?
            Oh well, I'm a communist, according to K Peter.

            • @ HansNL, please don't write things I didn't say. I mentioned communism as an example. I don't say anywhere that I call you a communist. This comment is entirely at your own expense.

              • HansNL says up

                But coincidentally as a comment on my “entry”.
                ALSO read what I wrote, I ask the question why now suddenly communism has to be cited AND the question if you mean that I would be a communist.
                Again, nice discussion you get about this shareholder-driven health factory, however…..
                Having once used the services of such a private company, where the doctor on duty stated that I had suffered a heart attack, sometime in the past, I ended up at the Queen Sirikit Haeart Center of the North-East, where the doctor asked me, what are you doing here, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you, and you certainly have not had a heart attack.
                After some inquiries here and there, it turned out that the hospital in question was “known” for its luxury, but certainly not for its expertise.
                Again, I think it is in very bad taste if such an expensive medical solution is offered in a blog, which nevertheless serves many “expats” as reading material, yes, even as advice.
                As if being listed on the stock exchange is a guarantee of quality.
                Come on anyway.
                I've worked in quality assurance for years, and I've found that publicly traded companies generally deliver worse real quality than real private and government companies.
                But these are also the companies that make the most noise about the good, what should I say, excellent quality that they uphold.
                They often believe this themselves.

                I was once in the hospital you mention so much, and quite recently.
                I took the liberty, probably a professional stroke, to give my eyes a good living here and there in the patient rooms, the toilets, and even in the anterooms of the ORs.
                Yes, I understand that!
                Let me put it this way, I have never seen so much filth in a hospital.
                I was lucky, a toilet was "cleaned", in a patient room.
                With a mop, half wet, the horizontal surfaces, the tiles up to 1,5 m high, the floor, and finally the toilet were touched.
                In about 1,5 minutes the “cleaner” was ready.
                I had to, just held off until I got out of this hospital.
                You're right, it all looks slick, it shines to you.
                But clean?
                If the lock to the OR was a benchmark for the cleanliness of the OR, then I am allowed to doubt.
                Incidentally, this situation is also increasingly encountered in Dutch hospitals.
                Well, the NL hospitals also have to compete against the idiocy of market forces, and then profit comes first.
                Unfortunately.
                And in the Netherlands health care is being cut so much that within a few years we will be among the worst in Europe.
                But the private clinics, for the rich, prosper.

        • andrew says up

          heavily overpaid doctors: nonsense. My insurance company in the Netherlands for phyathai: consult neurologist 500 Bht and Bumrungrad 750 baht. My insurance company knows the rates in both hospitals and does not pay more than the private hospitals charge to the locals. This is stated verbatim in the payment guarantee and this is known .We had an MRI scan done in Bumrungrad. Costs are a joke compared to the Netherlands.Khun peter is normally very well informed before posting on the blog and has once again stated that the price a specialist charges in a private hospital is so It is low that a specialist in the Netherlands does not get out of bed for this. True. My wife was admitted to a provincial hospital in the Netherlands at night on December 28, 1999. There was no doctor in sight in the surrounding area. She spent an hour there before the neurologist on duty came. Until then I was at her bedside with a gate doctor who also did not know. The neurologists' association did give me a bill of 15000 guilders in the new year for treatment from 28 to 31 December. people think about it now?

          • Anton says up

            That the health care in NL is absolutely bad and especially with the mentality of doctors and nurses. In NL you are a customer and not a patient. There is an atmosphere of 'don't whine', as a sick person you have to keep your mouth shut and do as you are told. Outrageous in one word.
            On the other hand, I have very good experiences in Pattaya Hospital and some hospitals in BKK. Very friendly and good care and with doctors and nurses who do their work seriously and with policy. An example:
            In the middle of the night (approx. 04:00) I got serious problems with my right leg, I could hardly get out of bed. Called the front desk downstairs and explained my problem. Within 5 minutes I was taken from my apartment in a wheelchair, a taxi was waiting and I was driven directly to the Pattaya Hospital. They were already waiting for me there and I was immediately taken to the treatment room where the doctor on duty was already waiting. After I explained what the complaints were, they immediately investigated, took pictures and treated. Received medication and within two hours I was back in my apartment. After three days, the problem in my leg was over. So it wasn't all that bad (fortunately). But what matters here is the efficiency and the decisive and fast action of everyone. On the other hand, for example, I have been here in NL for 10 days!!! I've been getting my blood checked for cholesterol. Because my GP disagreed with my cardiologist. Simply scandalous.

            And the price……………for NL standards a pittance.
            And as for luxury. Here in NL it is now 'poor trump'.

            • Marco says up

              Don't be well insured, see if you still talk so well?
              Farang + visit to hospital + well insured = earn good money for the hospital. That is the practice and nothing else!
              And what about the Thai? With their social security card? Have a designated hospital where the facilities are not at all as you indicate, so I think this is a bit exaggerated to compare this with the Netherlands. Thailand is certainly good at medical care, but the normal Thai sees nothing of that.

              • Anton says up

                @Marco

                Always pay cash in TH for a visit to a hospital. Later I will get that back from the insurance. Usually I don't even talk about insurance. So the hospital gets the money from me, outside of the insurance. Very likely they will make more money with me as a patient than with a Thai. But yes…………'that's life'.
                What I also experienced at the Pattaya Hospital is the following and ties in with what you noted. A woman came to lie next to me due to a serious car accident. She wasn't in good shape. But to my surprise she was not helped when it turned out that there were difficulties with the possible payment and she was sent away. So that is less good, say badly regulated in TH. But we as expats essentially have nothing to do with that. For me, medical care in TH is many times better than in NL.
                How medical care in TH is arranged for the Thais themselves is another chapter. But yes that is the old story of rich and poor and is the same everywhere in this world. If you have money, you can buy things. If you don't have it, you'll have to settle for whatever you get and that's usually not much, I admit.

  3. French says up

    I only got this from hearing from a friend, that her friend's father was in a state hospital, that this man had been lost and found dead under a staircase three days later. The wife of this man was offered a lump sum if she did not made work on it.

    I once visited a friend [moped accident] in the same hospital, well I hope I never end up there, with at least 20 people in the room, stinking like life... busy busy busy... even the hallway was full of beds . The medical care will certainly be good, my girlfriend survived [brain surgery].

    I myself have been in an International hospital, with a private room. now give me that.

  4. Robert says up

    Why do people care so much about whether a hospital is for profit or not? What's wrong with profit or market forces? In my experience, this encourages competition, requiring good service and results to attract customers. I think the private hospitals in Thailand clearly show that. Choice and market forces in this sector are very good in my opinion!

    • @ right, the only way to promote efficient working is market forces and competition. As a result, communism also died a soft death. A beautiful idealistic and social system on paper. In practice it doesn't work.
      However, there will have to be regulations to keep healthcare accessible to everyone.

      • nick says up

        And now capitalism is dying. It's about time. Why were fraudulent American bankers able to mess up the global financing system, why did taxpayers have to keep those banks afloat, why are there global subsidy systems to allow certain agricultural products to disrupt market forces? Thanks to these so-called market forces, poor countries can no longer sell their products. Why are the economically weak countries in the EU supported? Not for market forces anyway. Multinational companies benefit from the principle of freedom of movement and competition, but you see more and more government initiatives to slow down this development. In the super capitalist billboard country of Thailand that is unthinkable... How many authentic Thai eateries have had to make way for 7/11 stores, how many M.Donalds restaurants are there on Sukhumvit rd, 30?? And who benefits from that? It only makes people unhealthier, even in the famous Bumrungrad hospital there is a McDonald's restaurant and all for the capitalist sacred principle of competition and free market forces. By the way, Chinese emperors would turn in their graves to know that there is a Starbucks coffee shop in their holy city in communist Beijing. Ha, Ha…

        • nick says up

          Excuse me, holy city should be Forbidden City of course.

        • Robert says up

          The number of McDonalds restaurants compared to the number of Thai restaurants is like a drop in the ocean. The same goes for Starbucks vs Thai coffee shops. It's all okay. And then again; you won't see me in McDonalds either, but who am I (or you) to decide whether this is a good development or not? I'm not devastated myself, but apparently there is a demand for these products. Asians really see this as progress. Westerners want to keep Asia authentic and Asian. Understandable, but not realistic and not fair.

          • nick says up

            Childhood obesity is also a problem in Thailand. McDonald's food is a demonstrator of unhealthy food, so a hospital is the last place where you should allow such a restaurant, except, of course, in countries where only market forces count. You ask, we run. Outside of massage parlors, there are hardly any authentic Thai shops in many neighborhoods, where there are also Indian clothing stores, and internally. chains such as Pizza Hut, Starbucks, Seven Eleven, etc. znz. dominate business. As happens in other countries, with India as an extreme example, the domestic product should be more protected and a more restrictive policy should be implemented regarding the establishment of foreign companies.

            • @Niek, I agree with you that a McDonalds in a hospital is actually ridiculous. On the other hand, everyone has their own responsibility. Also applies to smoking, drinking, etc.

              • nick says up

                That is why you are no longer allowed to smoke in any Belgian cafe from July 1. The government may well take some regulatory action, as is already happening in all other sectors of society. There is also such a thing as a shared responsibility.

            • Robert says up

              Niek, a bit of a strange view. So if the Thais en masse would rather eat McNuggets than gai yang (and again, we won't experience that anymore) then you would want to regulate that and force traditional food down their throats against their will? Because that appeals to you more? I understand what you mean, I would rather see a cozy Thai restaurant than a KFC, but I also believe that people can make the best choice for themselves what they want. This is a nice word for self-determination, and it underlies important matters such as democracy and market forces (supply and demand).

              In addition, only the brands are international, the business itself is simply Thai. For example, 7-11 is part of the Thai CP agri group, which manages just about the entire supply chain from farm via slaughterhouse and processing to retail. So often supplies a Thai product and yet also provides work for quite a few Thais.

              However, you may prefer to see the farms as communal property, with only organically produced traditional Thai products. However, I think that the Thais prefer convenience, wide choice, and affordability. Salient detail: precisely because there is a demand for it, and perhaps as a counter-reaction to mass-produced food, there is now more and more choice in organically produced food. Still interesting, the market.

              • nick says up

                It has more to do with an outgrowth of unbridled capitalism and a typical example of one of the drawbacks of globalization.

                • Nick and others. Now back to the subject of the post please….

  5. Marcus says up

    Bad experience myself with jacking up the bill there. Some medicines we use are 90% cheaper outside Bumrunrath and also at very good phamacies. If you are there for something, keep it overnight for observation (for an inflamed finger?) Let other doctors share (second opinion). Years ago a very funny example. I worked for a large multinational company that had a 10% discount at this hospital. We had to show a ticket. I forgot about that and when the bill came for the medicines (they always prescribe a lot), say 1000 baht, I showed the card. The girl quickly snatched away the bill and had to do it all over again. Result now a bill of 1100 baht minus the discount so again 1000 baht.

  6. andrew says up

    Let's take a look at the difference between the Netherlands and Thailand: when my wife suffered a brain haemorrhage at the end of 1999 (and initially the diagnosis was double-sided brain tumour), we initially had to travel 100km away to another hospital for an MRI scan in the ambulance, completely paralyzed with an untreated thrombosis leg. After two weeks we went to Dijkzicht Rotterdam to have a brain puncture done to see what type of tumor it was. Fortunately, within two days they realized that it was not a tumor but a hemorrhage that was gradually disappearing and fortunately it was resolved. the life-threatening thrombosis of the leg (pulmonary embolism) was quickly treated with heparin. Thank God, she recovered 99.9% during the rehabilitation and we were able to go on holiday to Thailand in September 2000. When I looked out the window I saw the BUMRUNGRAD where 5 MRI scan machines were located. .we were perfectly helped there for aftercare. We got through the eye of the needle, the situation really felt life-threatening to us and in such a situation you only choose the very best, so next time BUMRUNGRAD again. (also had Bangkok hospital could be) It's wonderful that Peter has put this video on the block. Everyone gets it under their noses. KNOW.

    • Pear Stone says up

      1999 and 2011 is a very big difference. At the moment, you can reach a Stroke unit within 15 minutes on average in the Netherlands, a specialized department within a hospital for the initial reception and treatment of a CVA (cerebral haemorrhage or cerebral infarction). And every department has an MRI scan. If treated within 4-4 1/2 hours, the serious consequences of a CVA can be much less. Your wife is lucky to have recovered so well. I know several hospitals in NL and also university hospitals in BKK. At the moment, people in NL with regard to CVA (40.0000 cases per year – 10.000 deaths) are a lot further than in Thailand. For other disciplines I don't know and I think that medical knowledge is high or maybe even higher in Thailand.

      My personal opinion is that care should not be given for profit or salary, but from a mentality; taking care of others. But alas, everything revolves around money these days!

  7. andrew says up

    Dear Pear Steen. You cannot dispel my doubts about healthcare in the Netherlands. (as far as provincial hospitals are concerned). The neurologist who had not noticed a thrombosed leg is still one of the old school: the doctor knows everything and the patient knows nothing. Moreover, he and the radiologist assessed the MRI photos incorrectly: double-sided tumor instead of bleeding. It will be better in the academic hospitals, but it cannot be judged better than in Thailand. As for the last comment, everything revolves around money. : my grandmother who has been dead for more than 50 years already said: everything revolves around the whistle and the money. Finally, as Khun Peter also says, due to market processing there is quite a bit of competition between the top hospitals in Thailand and that keeps them sharp and the quality high In Bumrungrad there are always doctors present, they also have a night shift. For us it was more expensive an hour before the neurologist on duty showed up and the first thing he said was: she has anemia, she has to eat syrup, and that to a Thai woman who doesn't know what to do at all. syrup and is completely paralyzed. bye, Netherlands.

  8. HansNL says up

    Khan Peter

    Perhaps an interesting link to an article in the Telegraaf.
    Indicates more or less what the Dutch think about the health care system as it is now in NL

    http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/9958759/___Zorgsysteem_onhoudbaar___.html?p=30,1

    Perhaps the Dog is not entirely "reliable", but the overwhelming majority who think the same is striking.
    By the way, research can be massaged, but mind you, the Telegraaf was one of the clients for this research….

    It turns out that the Health Insurance Fund, so the old way, is considered better by many, if not almost everyone.
    So………….


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