Dogs in Pattaya
Yes, love those dogs. Well I don't think so. I regularly see people who feel sorry for the stray dog in Pattaya and pet dogs. I get chills when I see it.
We've been coming in for a long time Thailand and have already seen a lot of dogs and also many sick dogs that you can't handle with pliers yet. You could get so sick of it.
Whether you like the dog or not, if you end up in my situation you will get bitten anyway. The dog didn't ask if I liked him first.
Tell? Okay! It is January 21 (we would go back to Holland on the 28th). We'll make it a nice day. Go everywhere by bike. In the morning from Naklua Road to Beach Road, Check out some shops in Beach Road and First Road. Via the Market Pattaya to Carefour to do some shopping there and after a beer there on the terrace back on the bike, through to the hospital and then back to Naklua Road. Nice day, nice cycling and sweating of course, but that's part of it. We were very satisfied.
Street dog
Until we got close to home. I was leading the way when suddenly I was seriously stalked by a middle-sized mutt. Hmm he thought, a nice farang and shot out of his starting blocks. Hanging on my left leg. I gave a scream, because the teeth were nice. I tried to shake the dog off with that leg and I succeeded. Found his spot again and lay down again (no apologies!). My wife who drove behind me had not seen all this and saw me sitting on the sidewalk with a bloodied leg. In the street where it was fairly busy, however, no one had 'seen anything'. That is also typical Thai. Don't want to interfere. And the dog has no owner there. At least if it is a small puppy, the Thai young girls really like the dogs. When they get bigger, the fun is over.
Well I sat there with holes in one leg. Yes, really, both at the front and at the back I had three holes, one of which was very deep at the front and one at the back. My wife took the blood off my leg (luckily a wet wipe with us) and put some plasters everywhere. Still no Thai came to watch. We could choose between the clinic on the Nakluaroad or the hospital. We chose the clinic.
Clinic
Me back on my bike (unbelievable that that was still possible back then). After that I couldn't walk anymore. Bicycles put away at our apartment and to the clinic. My wife just put the groceries away. When she got to the clinic, I was already being treated. Clean everything neatly and then (not pleasant) cotton wool soaked in the iodine pushed into the holes. Then everything is taped with gauze and bandaged. The doctor gave me two more injections (tetanus shot and rabies). I was given a ticket for five more follow-up injections in the next month. I had to come back to the clinic every day to take care of the wounds. Wasn't always pleasant, but necessary.
Then the misery actually started a bit because walking was almost impossible. It became very painful to move my leg. But so good and so bad it went a little bit. Good cane bought in Naklua, where there is a special store for medical supplies. So that did help.
The moral from this story: or you the dogs allike it or not they will get you if they want to.
Because I walked with a bandage and a stick, everyone naturally asked (first question in Thailand) Motorbike? “No”, I said. A dog bit me. And then you heard the stories of other people who were also bitten or knew about it from someone else. At the clinic, I asked the doctor during one of my visits, “Doctor, is this common for those dog bites. Do you have to treat a lot of people for that?” The answer was astonishing. It was an accident that belonged in the top 5.
China Airlines
Back to the story for a moment. So we had to go home on the 28th. Taxi to the airport and when we arrived at the counter of China Airline, we were immediately met by the ground stewardess of China who took us to the 1st class counter to get our tickets there. So we didn't have to queue. Then we were offered a wheelchair with a “driver” a nice guy who stayed with us until the plane. He guided us through customs, through the check, took us to the bank, the toilet and the coffee shop. After an hour we were picked up and taken to the plane. Everywhere he passed the queues and we were served first. An excellent service. We also went in first and said goodbye to our guide (with some baths of course) after our tickets were transferred to Business class.
Something went wrong with booking so we got this. We had a wonderful flight. And I could relax and stretch my leg etc. etc. Hats off to China Airlines. In Amsterdam we were met by two Schiphol employees, who also helped us through everything. Up to the coffee shop. We went to the train alone but then our daughter was there to help. So service is possible! Thank you all.
A little further over the leg. I have been to the doctor four times for checkups and for rabies injections. Next Thursday again and then I hope it's over. I have been able to walk without a cane for a week now. My leg is still bandaged.
Pattaya
Stray dogs in Pattaya are becoming a major concern for Thai councilors I think. Soon tourists will stay away because of the dogs. In addition to the petty criminals (the gold thieves) who I think they handle well, this is also annoying. I would say mayor take action. It is good for your city to do something about it.
In another article I have sometimes pointed out that I think Pattaya is a nice city. You have to see Pattaya for what it is. Don't worry about others, but try to make something fun of it yourself. I like pattaya. Let everyone in his value. Only the dogs….
This piece was already on the blog: www.thailandblog.nl/thailand/pas-op-voor-hond/. It's a good warning. If you get bitten, get treated. It's a must.
The piece you wrote sounds very familiar to me. In 2015 I was also bitten by a street dog during my vacation. Also the same reactions from the Thai, namely none. In the local hospital I was treated very well and I also had to come back several times for injections and follow-up treatment. People in the hospital were not surprised, because tourists being bitten by dogs is commonplace. Back home, the health insurance also made it difficult, no payment and this without a clear explanation, but probably because the invoices were written in Thai.
My wife and I have been coming to Thailand for 15 years and we clearly see that the local authorities are not doing anything about this problem.
Our conclusion after all these years, no longer to Thailand.
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As an animal lover, I'm pretty sure these mutts won't bite for no reason.
Perhaps it would be useful to request the necessary vaccinations from your doctor before going to danger areas.
In my opinion, the mayor will have more serious problems to solve than a few mutts.
Dear Bona, when I read all the comments that go from having a handkerchief, a stick, a converted fly swatter to a taser, it seems like you are going to a war zone on vacation.
You suggest getting vaccinations, but that's not the problem. The real problem is the large groups of stray dogs that nothing is being done about. By taking vaccinations you prevent the terrible bite wounds or you haven't thought about it yet. With vaccination you may prevent yourself from getting sick or you may not be aware of that. That the mayor also has other things to do is correct, but protecting Thai and tourists from these dogs is also part of it. So please think carefully before responding to a problem.
Dogs in general everywhere don't like cyclists/mopeds/runners and they seem to have a special regard for people who don't like animals. I have had 50 dachshunds for 2 years and they also react without biting in such a situation and then call them to order. Animals understand body language very well so make use of it.
Dear Ruud,
I also experienced this on November 24, 2014 that were stray dogs in a temple.
On the bike I was attacked by about 10 dogs.
I took antibiotics for 3 months and went to the hospital every day for almost 4 months.
Have had a total of 15 injections, and many bahtjes lighter (fortunately I was insured)
It is now May 1 and the wound is not completely gone yet.
The monks do nothing about those dogs, they are not allowed to kill them, and they have no money to pay for the hospital.
Another bad dog story in Thailand,
Fortunately I have other experiences
So after the death of my beautiful sweet dog I was dog free. But not for long/
A house was under construction on our street. I walked by there every day and saw
there is always a dog on the first floor. After about a week she recognized me
and came down for a delicious meal I brought with me.
After another week she came to my house to eat and never left,
We have a fantastic housemate who takes good care of the house at night,
I have no experience with the dangerous dogs in Pattaya and other cities. Perhaps
is a good approximation the solution
Gerrit
Yeah some things I don't understand either.
When people are eating, a dog or cat passes by,
are they going to pet the animal and feed it.
then eat slowly.
without washing hands.
The next day I'm there and they report again.
I am in misery
If I'm unlucky I'll have an asthma attack
because I am allergic to cat hair.
Will there be no possibility to give the stray cats and dogs something so that they become sterile and so do not provide a next litter.
Maybe the mayor or kind of animal protection or police can do something like that
I'm afraid the problem won't go away on its own. In BKK, a large contingent of dogs are shot every so often when the weather gets too crazy. In Pattaya this does not happen as far as I know. The problems are exacerbated by artificially maintaining the population. At the Khao Phra Yai in Pratamnak, the dogs are fed every evening by Thais who apparently think they are polishing up their kharma. No wonder the number of dogs there is growing rapidly.
As a runner, these stray dogs bother me a lot. Having a stick handy is often necessary. If you have a dog of your own and want to let it out, the stray dogs that usually operate in groups, preferably around sunset, are also a problem.
We also have 2 dogs and love those animals, but they do not leave our property and lie inside at night so that no one is bothered by it and they also guard our house.
If a burglar comes at night then I wake up the dogs and they start to bark at me anyway !!
But our neighbor is also crazy about puppies, but as soon as they get a bit bigger they are not allowed in and they wake up the whole neighborhood at night with their fighting and barking.
Actually, I am not in favor of it and especially not how they are transported to the neighboring countries of Thailand, but I allow a car to drive around here every day to catch dogs for human consumption.
There are an estimated 200 dogs 50 meters away from the temple and you don't have to drive past them without a big stick.
We drive away the dogs that come to our site with a catapult or an air pressure pistol with those plastic bullets because I don't want to injure or kill them.
As far as we are concerned :::a tasty food, then they are the first to be cleaned up !!
Hope not to have kicked the animal lovers against their sore leg, but you a sore leg from the kicking and we from the dog bites.
Before I regularly came to Thailand, I had a risky experience with a group of stray dogs.
Only in Bangkok did I notice that the sleepy street dogs turned into aggressive animals after sunset that you couldn't turn your back on. After that discovery, I took a large stick with me after sunset to keep the dogs at a distance. Especially the temple area appears to be controlled by the dogs.
I love all animals, but it would be naive to think that this is reciprocal.
The street dogs are indeed a problem, a big problem, even. I've been coming to Pattaya for 10 years and it gets worse every year. Lately I have been looking not only at how nice the hotel I book is, but also at the neighborhood I end up in. How far to walk to bathbus, or shops, beach, etc. Those creatures are disastrous for tourism. It would be nice if the police would do something about it. but yeah... don't think this is on the list of priorities. (luckily I have never been bitten, but I am terrified of those bitches and feel free to walk around the street if I see one in a narrow alley)
The moral of the story; if Ruud had fed this dog every day this would not have happened.
I've always had a fear of dogs, but Cesar Millan's programs have helped me understand how dogs act.
So I ignore mutts as much as possible, and most of the time they ignore me.
Your attitude is also important. But I have friends who have a dog as a pet in the Netherlands, who were bitten by a Thai stray dog.
So some of those beasts don't quite track and I would like to see firm action. Any loose dog without a badge / name tag from the owner would then immediately have to go to a shelter.
Now it's an adult man [Ruud], next time it's a child. I want to hear the “animal friends” again [bleating]….
Has already happened in Bangkok. a child attacked and bitten by 30 mutts. Don't have a link or don't remember the year.
I have lived here for 7 years, if I have a dry handkerchief in my hand and wave it they are gone,
regards loan
I walk +/- 5 km different routes every day, they are scared and bark and growl, flap my sweat cloth and they don't remember, haha it's a nice distraction.
I see dogs walking around here with ticks, mange, fleas between the places where people cook and eat. This is not responsible and dangerous. I had myself injected before I came here to be sure.
Where I live there is a dog with udder infection that drags on the ground, so dirty. Every day I see a dog here with the backside completely open.
If the stray dogs turn out to be nobody's, then the city council should pick them up and if that doesn't improve, levy a tax on everyone who has a dog
With me in the soi are 2 stray dogs that I have both seen being born. Of course they don't bother me! if I put on a cap and wear different clothes than they are used to, they still want to attack me. But after shouting something they recognize my voice and run off. I have to laugh heartily at that comment about waving with a sweat cloth, joke of the week. If I have to leave the soi (on foot) then I take my Thai wife with me because when she is there they do nothing. It is also true that we, white people, have a different body odor and all dogs here react to that, they see you every day, they usually do nothing and leave you alone, has nothing to do with feeding but the essence of, in their consciousness, strange fellow, take it.
Maybe you should laugh at that handkerchief.
When I sometimes walk outside in the evening, a lonely dog sometimes comes running towards me from a garden and wants to jump up on me enthusiastically.
Since I don't appreciate that so much, I pick up a usually small twig and show it.
Then he runs away from me.
When I call him softly a little later, he comes with his head down.
So it is not so important what you have in your hand, but that you have something in your hand.
Dominant dogs that are used to fighting will not fall for that.
They can estimate very well whether you have a bat or a twig in your hand.
When I lived in Pattaya/Jomtien I had a great homemade solution for it. You take an electric fly swatter and unscrew it. Loosen the wires that run to the mesh and remove the entire mesh including the plastic edge. Screw a small metal plate onto the end of the stem and connect it to the wires that are otherwise connected to the mesh. Then you screw the entire handle closed again. It weighs nothing and it fits nicely in my girlfriend's bag. It's just a shame they get and they don't know how quickly they should get away. Animal friendly yes/no? I would not know. You can also wait until he grabs you, Thai answer: “up to you”.
I'm not that difficult. I'm going to the market here. Buy a Taser for 200 baht that you can also use as a flashlight. Great against dogs or annoying people.
Is Pattaya the only city in the world with street dogs? Answer ; No!
Are these stray dogs the only or the biggest problem in Pattaya? Answer ; No !
Other pests that are rampant in Pattaya should be given priority.
I leave the rest to you, otherwise this would be chatting.
If you don't understand them, or if you're afraid of dogs, dig into them. If you are afraid try not to let them show and ignore them. Focus on something else.
Street dogs also belong to Thailand!
All that complaining doesn't help. Then commit suicide. Then both the dog and I are rid of the nagging.
MVG
I will kick the necessary animal lovers in the shins, but I will take that risk
1st my own 1st experience my stray dogs in Thailand, my first time Thailand I also thought such a sad animal, I gave him something to eat and the next day I had a whole pack at my bungalow, constantly fighting for the hierarchy of course and the animal what I had fed it was chased away too, the rest of my holiday was bothered by that group of dogs, howling and fighting at night and constantly roaming around my bungalow during the day, the staff didn't even dare to come near anymore, the owner of the resort had them shot by the police at one point because they were just a danger to the other guests and the children, so I will never feed a dog in Thailand again
2nd: I've seen dogs walk around with serious injuries from fights, one even had an eyeball hanging out of its head, large infected wounds all over their bodies and covered in lice and fleas.
To anyone who comes up with good advice on how to deal with dogs so that they no longer cause a nuisance; There are just false bitches that are not suitable for (re)education, I myself have had 3 Bouviers, of which I have trained as a guard and defense dog with 2 and I love dogs but not in Thailand, the best is all those animals sterile and (very loudly) just appoint and train a number of "dog swatters", who are allowed to shoot the worst and sickest cases, preferably more humane of course, but as a last resort they should be allowed to be shot.
I'm sorry for these harsh words, but I have too many bad experiences with feral and vicious dogs in Thailand, despite my experiences with my own dogs in the Netherlands.
best regards,
Lex K.