Dear readers,

About this time, a year ago, Thailand was in a political crisis with the hopeless battle between the yellow shirts and the red shirts. The Thaibaht then fetched about 42 Bht for one euro. A “prospect” expressed by “connoisseurs” then appeared on this blog, although that ratio would increase further to 45 Bht/€.

Now a year later, the opposite is true and we are struggling with values ​​well below 40 Bht.

I therefore appeal to the "connoisseurs" and other people with financial insight with the question where the future lies?

I am considering a Thai investment, but for that I need to convert euros into Thai baht. If you can do this at the right time, it can quickly save 10% or more.

Sufficient to call on research and expertise.

Thanks to the experts.

Yours faithfully,

Unclewin

35 responses to “Reader question: Which direction is the Thai baht – euro exchange rate going?”

  1. David says up

    Well, invest or invest that you prefer at times when exchange rate or interest ideally interfere.
    The prediction of what the baht and euro will do in the future sometimes also gives economists a headache.

    For example, the gold price in euros today is 20% higher than 6 months ago. Just because of the weaker euro against the dollar. Yet such an investment today still pays off in the long to very long term, because it will retain its value. In the short term, it's more of a gamble; you can quickly win 20% but also lose.

    Furthermore, not only the tourist or expat gets less baht for his euro.
    A Thai can also buy less with his baht. Wages hardly rise, but life has also become more expensive for them.

  2. Eric bk says up

    With the QE by the ECB, which will start in March, an additional 60 billion euros will be added to circulation every month. More Euros with nothing extra in return means a lower price. The chance that the Euro will continue to fall is therefore very high. The same will happen with interest on savings in Euros. With a declining Euro, the Baht rises in value.

    • kees says up

      it is the euro that is falling in value.
      the baht remains the same.
      It does not matter which foreign currency you buy.

  3. Gerard says up

    if, if, if. .
    If everyone knew exactly what the future of the various currencies would be (a bit comparable to the values ​​of stocks), then everyone could become very rich quickly through options. .
    The depreciation of the Euro is now the reason for a stronger Tb compared to the €.
    The Tb to SDG, US$ and HKD has not really changed much. .
    85% of the world's largest banks already predicted in the middle of last year that the € would fall to one to one with the US$ within 2 years. .rate was then still 1.30 to 1.35 . .price is now approx. 1.142 . .was already 1.115
    Interest rates, economic growth, tensions or wars are the basis of currency fluctuations.
    If economic growth, world tensions, tensions in Thailand, etc. do not change in the next 1,5 to 2 years, a Tb of approximately 32 is therefore not inconceivable. .

    • rene says up

      Indeed. Tensions, wars, coups, etc. have a declining effect on a currency, with the exception of the Baht, which only becomes stronger. I still haven't heard any sensible explanation about that.

  4. support says up

    Those who really know how the prices of currencies and / or shares will develop in the future, lie on a tropical private island enjoying the sun, sea, etc.

    In short, no one can make a reliable prediction.

  5. lion 1 says up

    The economy is falling and unemployment is rising in Europe, these are the main points that the Euro is falling.
    The EU is pumping billions into the system to boost the economy.
    In America it is just the other way around, where the dollar is rising and unemployment is falling.
    I myself no longer have confidence in the EU and the Euro, it is becoming a bubble.

  6. Harry says up

    Money is nothing more than solidified trust in a medium of exchange: that someone else returns other goods against that medium of exchange (silver and gold coins, or government-guaranteed paper to .. lines in a computer program).
    The moment that confidence drops, and people massively convert their medium of exchange into another (paper for gold, DMs for US$, or Rubles in Euros/US$, and the supply is therefore considerably higher than the demand, the If that goes fast and a lot, others will do the same in a panic and the exchange rate will fall (Ruble to US$/Euros).
    There are a few major currency blocks: US$ (including Chinese Yuan, Thai Baht), Euro, Yen. And that's about it.
    If confidence in the Euro decreases, and people exchange their money for US$, the Euro will also yield less THBs (as long as this lasts).
    As soon as stability is established along the Euro (calm in Ukraine, problem Greece neutralized, reduced influx of refugees), the “lemmings” behavior can go the other way again, and US$ (and THBs) will be converted into Euros .

    When, in the 80s, I attended a lecture block on these currency situations at the UVA, the professor was asked at the end: all this is nice, but… “what will the exchange rate of the US$ be next week, month etc..” came the answer: “for the exchange rate of the US$ against the European currency, you should not go to the Faculty of Economics, but to Psychology”.
    To give you an idea: the Bundesbank had a "war chest" of DM 3 billion to keep the US$ from crossing the DM 3 border. Daily currency flows then amounted to… 1000 billion US$ per… day.
    So that "war chest" had dried up in a few days, and the US$ went up to DM 3,35.

    The enormous expansion of the money market by Draghi of up to EUR 1100 billion (at EUR 60 billion/day) is therefore… compared to the annual income of the entire EU of EUR 17,000/yr.. only.. 65 days of income. Looking at the total debt… do you really think that the consumer will be sent in a completely different direction with an increased borrowing capacity of… 2 months salary? (Your mortgage + Personal loan space has been increased by € 5000?)
    However, if CONFIDENCE goes the other way, THEN that “loan” will be taken up, and much more, and the economy will change, and thus confidence in the exchangeability of the Euro will change.

    In other words: as soon as you know when that TRUST is going to turn, THEN exchange money.
    And since economists still haven't fitted psychology into their frame of mind, people keep beating around like half blind.

    For MY business activities: I buy in THB, among other things, of which the goods have now become 15-20% more expensive in Euros. So.. customers who switch to other products. Nevertheless, I keep my currency open, because I expect (hope) that the Euro will strengthen considerably again in the coming months
    ( and like so many prophets I eat bread, or: have zero future predictive ability )

  7. Eric says up

    However, also take into account a devaluation of the Baht.
    Competition with neighboring countries is unrelenting and export is becoming too expensive. With this kind of opportunistic government, the decision is made quickly.

  8. Roel says up

    also here in Thailand they experience the negative consequences of a too strong Thai bath.
    Last Wednesday there was a TV debate about this on the Thai channel between various departments. It will be investigated how to deal with and how to make the Thai bath less strong, don't forget Thailand exports a lot to Europe, so export volume is falling, which in turn results in poorer economic growth and less tax revenue. Exports have been declining for at least 1 year and that has to stop was the conclusion.

    So it is difficult to say which way it will go, if the Thai government does nothing, it will certainly go to 30 to 32 baht on the euro because so many Euros are being pumped into a failing system. European equities are expected to rise as a result, so make up for the price difference there. Even if the USA raises interest rates, a lot of money will flow from the USA to Europe, so that a bubble will also arise on the shares there. The trend has already started, I also invest myself and this year alone a growth in the portfolio of more than 10%, is only due to low interest rates and a lot of capital, which is placed by banks and big boys, but also from the USA .

  9. Aad says up

    Hello Uncle,
    I think your question has been answered correctly. I personally agree with Erik bkk and leon 1. I think the so-called parity (1;1) €/USD will come. There is only 1 economy in the whole of Europe where the industry works well and that is of course Germany, but I also have my doubts there, because on paper there is a lot of export, but the car industry has an important share in those figures, of which Mercedes, for example, produces more cars. Asia then sells in D and the rest of the world, plus the backlog in road and rail maintenance is gigantic and is estimated at 1000 billion! That should of course be added to the national debt as a future cost but is never mentioned. Last week a bridge was closed on a major highway because it had become too dangerous for traffic! And Schauble insist that the Bund no longer needs to borrow money and thus gives the impression to others that they are doing so well and can convince everyone else in the EU that they need to cut spending! And where is the economic growth in the world? You'll just have to live off Hatz 4! And who did Merkel choose to represent us anyway? (Ukraine, economy etc)
    No advice unfortunately because those are personal decisions of course.
    Regards,

  10. sleep says up

    It's not surprising after many years of a te
    strong euro, a correction is now underway.
    That we as tourists or pensionados are not really there
    happy with it is an understatement.
    America with its cheap shale oil and stronger dollar is no stranger to this.
    Unfortunately, we don't know what the future will bring.
    Simply enjoy this country, even if it is with some
    with a few baths less.

  11. Pieter says up

    Patience !
    The Thai baht has fallen for people with euros because of the weak economy in Europe and the doubts about Greece. In my opinion, the money creation QE by the ECB does not help either.
    However, the Thai economy runs for the most part on the production and export of cars about 60% (foreign brands, that is). Subsequently, the agricultural sector (rice, fruit, seafood and rubber) takes a very small percentage (approx. 10%) and the tourist industry approx. 12%. The rest are the other foreign producers with a factory in Thailand.
    You can see from this that the Thai economy is very sensitive to decisions made by foreign companies in Thailand. Example: If Toyota decides to transfer part of the production to the Philippines, that will be a rib from the Thai economy.
    The current government has shelved the plan to carry out the projects with a mega-loan and is now allowing foreign governments (read China) to finance projects.
    Very good for Thailand's financial position, but people are becoming even more dependent on foreign countries.
    The economy of Thailand is therefore very sensitive and so is the Thai baht. Instinctively I say the exchange rate ratio will go back to 45, but the weak euro will play tricks on us and especially if Greece soon leaves the euro…..and maybe then Italy and Spain.
    A high demand for euros (for example, China's switch from US$ to euros) can save us, because our current Dutch government is not sufficiently concerned with stimulating purchasing power, consumer confidence and employment.
    So patience. For us, the exchange rate of the baht depends on developments around the euro.

    • ruud says up

      Letting foreign governments invest is not really a good plan.
      It is also taking out a loan, because the income from the foreign investment will flow abroad in the future, instead of staying at home.
      As a government, if you don't have money for prestige objects, you simply shouldn't implement them or save for them.

  12. gilliam says up

    Even 'connoisseurs' don't have a crystal ball.
    Technically speaking: downtrend
    After crossing the 55 SMA line downwards, the sellers have pushed EU/THB down considerably.
    However, the distance to the average line has grown considerably, which provokes a countertrend movement. In order to start a recovery movement in the short term and to reduce the distance to the 55 SMA line, the price will initially have to break 37.270. As long as that does not happen, the downward pressure on the field will remain. Expectations are, even after a counter-movement, directed downwards.

  13. Pieter says up

    Another important addition:
    From January 1, 2016, all persons from ASEAN member countries can work in the other countries. This could well mean a tidal wave of Cambodians, Vietnamese, Filipinos and MYanmar workers to Thailand, which in this way will crowd out employment.
    Cheaper employees and Thai foremen.
    A disaster for the Thai economy.

    • Cornelis says up

      By no means 'all persons from ASEAN member countries' will be able to work in other countries when the ASEAN Economic Community – AEC – enters into force. This is limited to professionals in a very small number of professions and then only if national qualifications/training/degrees are mutually recognised. The implementation issues have not yet been resolved. For the time being, therefore, nothing will come of the 'free movement of labour'.

  14. Ron says up

    Analysts have been predicting for years that the dollar will be worth as much as the euro. At the moment it doesn't make much difference, so assume that you will get +\- 33 bath for your euro in the coming years.

    • David says up

      Then investing now is the message. Gamble?

  15. rebell says up

    If you want to earn money you have to exchange Thai Baht in Euro now. He who has exchanged for 48-55 Baht now makes about 25% profit.

    • Pieter says up

      Math wonder !

      A bill of then 48 and now 37 already gives > 29,7%, but as the AFM pretends to say

      “Past results are no guarantee for the future”.

      Note: Then many saw the baht also rise to 65.

      The future will give the correct answer.

  16. DVW says up

    Since there is almost unanimity that the euro will soon be worth as much as the dollar, why not exchange your euros for dollars now?
    Then you will soon have won more than 10%, right?
    If it were that simple….then everyone with a decent capital would be rich, wouldn't they?
    Personally, I do think that we will evolve to 32 rather than 40 baht and then higher again when the economy in Europe recovers.

  17. David says up

    Private investing therefore remains a personal choice. Your money in the bank yields nothing, on the contrary. And we don't distribute either. Investing in sicavs etc. up to that point. Buy real estate or rather forests in the homeland. The latter are priceless. Don't even talk about emission rights, they are traded heavily. Save your skin and especially your savings. The latter is possible. And what is also possible is investing in green energy. Like the Mekong dams in Laos. The Chinese have seen that right. And rich Thai get richer, poor have to move and have lost their bounty to corruption.

  18. tonymarony says up

    What about if we first take a closer look at next year, because starting with the ASEAN conference the language problem the various currencies I have already been told that Indonesia already has the dollar Laos they also love the dollar vetnam dollar yes and there are more with dollars, maybe we will also get the dollar here because we all talk about the euro but what about the english pound the australian dollar and so on, people in thailand also see it gloomy in what is yet to happen, but first let's see what is happening in the EU because one thing is certain that 1 billion per month will not reach the consumer but will end up with the banks, I suspect that they will spend a little more to boost when more countries die , that is my sights on the game what is played by the / yank / moscou and the eu the game of the greats , we will see
    who wins the game, but there is no one who still takes into account a war in Europe, Ukraine and Russia, very dangerous, not to mention the Syrian danger.

  19. janbeute says up

    If you are staying here permanently for a long period of time , as I have been for many years .
    And with an ordinary kind of simple common sense.
    What are you doing then ??
    Make sure you build reserves of THB in your Thai bank accounts for the bad times . . Now it's time for many to cry big elephant tears again because life in Thailand has become super expensive again.
    This is not due to the high Bath , but thanks to the low Euro and the bad economy there and the financial policy of the EU .
    Certainly thanks to the Southern European countries.
    What I'm doing now is just leaving the Euro for what it is on my Dutch bank accounts.
    And continue to live cheaply in Thailand through my savings on Thai bank accounts.
    In time, who knows, the Euro will rise again or the Bath will fall again.
    Then I will again convert Euros from my Dutch banks into Thai baths.
    And so replenish my reserves here .
    It's that simple .
    If you can not afford this financially , then rather stay in the Netherlands and come here on holiday for a certain period .

    Jan Beute.

    • lung addie says up

      Dear Jan Beute,

      totally agree with you and especially with your last sentence. Whatever the Euro/Baht will do no one knows at the moment, one thing is certain: your position, which is also mine, gives us the chance to watch the cat out of the tree for several years to come.µ

      Lung addie

  20. Edwin says up

    Forecasts of 1 year can safely be called short term and unreliable.
    Someone will be right or wrong. Then it is not skill or ignorance, but coincidence.
    Analysts are always cautious about making bold statements but still want to appear sensible. They then come up with things like ; Despite the economic developments in Thailand and the Asian region, it can be expected that we will return to more realistic values ​​in the long term. That seems to me too. Spreading is also important. Story of the basket US, Sterling ,Swissy, stocks, whatever. Time is also a factor, something now, something in a few years. And lo and behold, your modest capital has ended up in calmer waters. Forget the turmoil.

  21. patrick says up

    it is a fact that the Baht is becoming extremely expensive for Europeans today. This is indeed due to the failure of the European system. Each time the European community expands to include yet another Eastern Bloc country, the resilience of the Euro drops. There are still a few waiting for their turn and they are certainly not coming to make the Euro stronger. Just look at Poland, which still holds on to its own currency, despite the fact that the switch to the Euro was a condition for joining Europe. They're in no hurry. In addition, there is currently great doubt about Greece, where a “run on the bank” is currently active and where Greeks en masse withdraw their Euros from the bank and place them in an account in another European country. In addition, the question is whether other southern countries will follow if Greece is forced to end its European adventure. And finally there is also the European Central Bank that ensures that your Euros do not yield a penny today and is not in a hurry to change its attitude quickly. For example, the European countries with a large national debt can more easily maintain control because they can renew old expensive loans at better interest rates and thus adhere to the imposed European standards without having to make any real effort. In Thailand, it is economically reasonably quiet today, so that the Baht retains its value and even improves.
    So keep in mind that the Baht will not weaken against the Euro in the next year, but will rather increase in strength, so that we will receive less and less Baht for our hard-earned Euros in the near future. However, investing based on exchange rates is always a risky business.

  22. French Nico says up

    Most people (not currency traders) buy or sell foreign currencies for emotional reasons. People buy (or sell) based on the price. Currency does not play a major role for many investors in foreign companies. For currency traders, expectations play a major role in price development.

    The exchange rate of the € compared to the $, for example, determines how the economy of each country is doing and what the expectations are. In the USA the economy is recovering much faster than in Europe. I will not consider the reason for this here. In addition, Europe is in a debt crisis. As a result, the value of the $ against other currencies increases, while the value of the € against other currencies decreases. The Thai Baht is therefore one of the other currencies compared to the two currencies mentioned. The value of the Thai baht can therefore rise against the € and fall against the $. It just depends on which currency you put the Thai Baht against. If your currency is the €, then you are currently out of luck. If your currency is the $, you are lucky right now. It's just where the "experts" have put their trust in their judgment of what the value of the Thai Baht will do.

  23. e says up

    I just find it strange
    who actually determines the value of the thai bath?
    in the west, countries are devalued by financial institutions and all kinds of developments.
    I never read anything about the status (from aaa+ to junk status) of Thailand.
    a coup , political instability , exports collapsed due to expensive tb , tourists stay away en masse , maintenance costs for daily life skyrocket ( debt burden per family rises to a high level ) , a bizarre rise in real estate prices ( bubble ) lies about economic growth ,
    rubber and rice prices collapsed …………… And yet the tb is 'expensive'. under these circumstances, a western currency would be worth nothing and the country would therefore be devalued from its status.
    (maybe the new rulers are doing big shopping abroad)

  24. p.hofstee says up

    Europe would like to go 1 on 1 with America, so you know that something will go off in Thailand in the near future. And if Greece and Ukraine go completely wrong, the Euro will be completely screwed.

    • French Nico says up

      Dear J. Hofstee, that is not entirely correct. In fact, Ukraine is already bankrupt and is propped up by the EU and the IMF, and is also not a member of the EU and the Eurozone.

      Greece is the problem of uncertainty. A Grexit offers certainty that the Eurozone will not be sucked into the quagmire of the Greeks. Then we know where Europe stands. A weak country less on the drip will make the rest of the Eurozone stronger and will entail an appreciation of the €.

      What's the damage?
      The Greeks have so far borrowed €245 billion from the Euro countries.
      That is € 22.270 per Greek resident borrowed from the Euro countries.
      That is € 738 per Euroland resident lent to the Greeks.
      Who's just finished?

      For the inhabitants of the Euro countries that is not so bad, for the Greeks it is quite disappointing.
      An old Greek proverb: “Each nation gets the leader it deserves.”

  25. Hyls says up

    Europe is becoming more and more affordable as a holiday destination…. because the value of the THB is increasing…. in itself beneficial for those who generate income here in Thailand, or have possessions here..

  26. gore says up

    Make sure to convert some of your Euros to USD and some gold (or gold mines).
    Furthermore, I think it will not be long before the Thai Central Bank lowers interest rates, and perhaps also prints money that will lower the Bath, in order to stimulate exports….

    All central banks from Canada to Australia, Japan to Denmark, are doing it…so it's suicidal not to get involved.

  27. says up

    We close this topic. Thanks for the responses.


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