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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Do I always have to go to the embassy in Bangkok for a Schengen visa?
Dear readers,
On August 3 I will return from Surat thani to Amsterdam after a stay of 3 months. The intention is to take my Thai wife with me for 2 months.
My question is: to apply for a Schengen visa, does she have to go to Bangkok in person or can she do it in another way?
Regards,
Peter
Yes your wife will have to personally go to BKK to apply for the visa because an interview will take place. check out the website of the embassy.
Interview is a big word, more like a few short questions. I believe my girlfriend got 2-3 (who are you? *name* What are you traveling for? *visiting my friend* When and for how long? *date* ). But perhaps less well-prepared applications will raise more questions when they go through the application at the desk.
The main reasons that you have to visit the embassy is biometric data is taken: fingerprints.
If good preparation remains important, read the clear file here on TB:
https://www.thailandblog.nl/category/dossier/schengenvisum/
Good preparation is half the job. With a well-prepared application, you have almost received the visa. Pay particular attention to making the purpose of the trip clear and to debunking any potential risk of settlement (demonstrate ties with Thailand, reason/intention for return). Then go through everything with your partner so that you both have a clear idea of the purpose of the visit (when are you going, what evidence do you provide, etc.). Also read the brochure “short stay visa” on IND.nl. Lots of practical information there, more extensive than the one on rijksoverheid.nl. The obligation to report to the Aliens Police has lapsed (it is still mentioned in 1-2 pieces here on TB in the Schengen visa file).
If you live close to the border, see if you can travel cheaply through our neighboring countries. That is also allowed. However, it is recommended to take a copy of all documents used for the application in your hand luggage. If the border controllers have questions/doubts, you can show at the border that you meet the requirements of the Schengen visa. A visa does not entitle you to entry, so if you have reasonable doubt, you can refuse entry to the Schengen area.
Finally: make an appointment directly with the embassy via email, which is less cumbersome than via VFS (and they also ask you for a service fee, a waste of money). You must then be able to go within 2 weeks, and you can usually expect a decision within 15 days. The decision date can be moved to 30 or 60 days, so don't arrange everything at the last minute.
If you do get a rejection (small chance, about 2-2,5% will be rejected), find out why and lodge an objection. You can find more information about what to do in the event of a rejection on sites such as foreignpartner.nl.
And if there is a consulate of a Schengen country near you, you can do that there too.
Hello, I am going to the Netherlands with my Thai girlfriend and son at the beginning of July, but I also want to visit my son later, but he lives in Poland.
Do I also have to apply for a Polish visa for her or does that Schengen visa apply to all European countries?
You can visit all Schengen countries with 1 visa. And Poland is a Schengen country.
Another tip for people who want to stay elsewhere in the Schengen area. if you, as an EU national, travel with a non-EU family member to a country other than the country of which you have the nationality, you are entitled to a free visa which must be issued quickly and easily. For married couples, that means the Thai marriage certificate + translation to a language the embassy can read + legalizations by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
See: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_nl.htm
Example: You are Dutch, married to a Thai (m/f) and you are going on holiday together to Poland (or Spain, or ….) where your main residence will be. Doesn't matter which Schengen country as long as it's not your own Netherlands. You then apply for a visa for a “family member of an EU/EEA citizen” at the Polish embassy, which is then free of charge and must be issued quickly and smoothly. Of course you can also make a trip to the Netherlands, but your main goal must still have been the other EU country. You do NOT need flight tickets, hotel reservations, etc., but you can of course add them if you expect difficult questions (which you do not have to answer, in the end, the embassy MUST issue the visa for free and quickly, but if they still have their doubts, it is sometimes more efficient to deliver just a little more than required).
Dear Peter,
Inform yourself well in advance on the website of the Embassy, but also on the Immigration website where you often find the most information. Obtaining a visa is quite cumbersome (Thai official documents must be translated and legalized). The embassy can also legalize certain documents, but it will probably first be done with the relevant department of the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The best procedure will be for family reunification. Good luck !
Marc
Are you married?
Completely legal and you have the necessary translated and legalized Kor Ror 2 and Kor Ror 3?
Then find out in the European directives how you can act ALSO.
Easy to find, and in Dutch.
When I read it like this here, it seems like a piece of cake for the Dutch. And a rejection rate of 2,5%?!
Well, then we Belgians are less fortunate. A complete file (according to a former employee of the Thai embassy), almost flawless. As good as in, that visa, you think. Still an interview of about an hour (and if I wanted to go outside for a while…). Then received the website address where we could follow the progress of the file from 5 days after the request. In the meantime we are a month further, the website search function does not work, so no information, and we have not heard anything from the Immigration Office in Brussels either. And yes, according to the website, the average processing time for such an application is 2 weeks. Strictly speaking, you only need to present the international passport and proof that you have sufficient income. Well, our file was about 20 pages thick, proof of ownership, employer, and minor school-going children who are taken care of by sister during the stay in Belgium. Wonder why it has to take so long and wonder what else they will ask. Now there is still room on my flight from Bangkok to Brussels, but maybe not anymore. It's my girlfriend's first time flying, so rather hold hands for that first time. All we have left to do is wait in anticipation. Rejection rate for Belgium just over 11%. I wish you good luck and iron nerves!
Since we deviate from the reader's question, only a short response:
– Within 15 days (source: article 23 of the Schengen Visa Code) the embassy must take a decision, in the case of missing documents or further investigation 30 days, in very exceptional cases 60 days. See: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL/all/?uri=CELEX:32009R0810
– Rejection percentage BE in BKK is about 14% (highest for all embassies in BKK), see:
http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/visa-policy/index_en.htm#stats
I am currently writing an article for Thailand Blog about visa statistics.
Correction: Belgium is at 11% rejections, which puts it in second last place after Sweden with 14% rejections in BKK. Many embassies are between roughly 2-3-4%
oh yes, almost forgot: an official application document for a Schengen visa must of course be completed and preferably also a proof of guarantee. So that was also with us. I really wonder why it has to take so long. I admit that it was a mix of documents in Dutch and English. If we are a bit unlucky, the file will be handled by a French speaker… this is Belgium…
Your information is correct, also noted that if a family member (the Thai wife/husband) travels to a country other than the country of which the EU partner has the nationality, the visa must be issued quickly and free of charge with a minimum of documents. See my post from 19:29 PM. But all embassies will want to take fingerprints for the VIS system (database shared by the Schengen countries). You will therefore have to appear in person everywhere, although details will differ about how exactly you will be received at the embassy.
Unfortunately, you are not allowed in as a partner, temper frogs have made this impossible: they have sometimes gone completely over the top and people are logically not waiting for that. Officially, the applicant also submits his own visa application, but being silently next to your partner's nerves is no longer an option. Unfortunately but understandable.