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Home » Reader Submission » Reader Submission: Motorbikes with mufflerless exhausts in Jomtien
I live in Jomtien on Theprassit road. It is extremely annoying if you live along a somewhat busier road such as Theprassit road that more and more Thai young people in particular find it a sport to drive around with a motorbike without a silencer and usually without a helmet. I have the impression that the police in Jomtien and Pattaya do not act against this.
A large amount of motorbikes and cars with a normal exhaust is absolutely not disturbing. But then one or more arrive with a manipulated exhaust, then it seems as if war breaks out and the police should not miss it.
Now there are hardly any police checks on Thepprasit road. It is of course not only possible in the street where I live, but from many of my acquaintances I hear that it is also the case on other roads in Pattaya and Jomtien and that people are increasingly disturbed by it. It is incomprehensible that the police no longer act against this.
Submitted by Henry
However, it will not be due to Thai regulations. This guarantees the “uniform quality” of vehicles on public roads. Every motor vehicle must be homologated and the technical inspection must ensure that this uniform quality, previously obtained by a manufacturer/importer from the competent authority, is maintained. Similar to what we know in the EU. So much for the theory 🙂
I bought a big bike in Thailand last year. Well, a flashy Chino-Italian driving will of 300 cc. A childhood dream that comes true a little late. In my wild young years I couldn't afford such a glitzy Italiano. Today it makes Chinese QJ bikes that are just as flashy and that have not only the name, but also the "look and feel" of the dream bike of my childhood. They are for sale in Thailand and affordable too. A nice side of Chinese economic success and globalization.
What else should a farrang kinniau have 🙂 Right, an even cheaper second-hand version. So from a Thai young man, who could not pay off the financing, bought such a glitzy bike in cash for a small price.
In well-known Thai tradition, that Thai youngster had made the glitzy bike even glitzier with all kinds of "after market" stuff. My Thai brother-in-law had demanded that all original parts were included with the purchase. I was surprised by my Thai brother-in-law's unusually demanding punctuality. I had never known him like that.
For the transfer of the motorcycle to my name, there also had to be a certificate of the technical inspection. Before that inspection, my Thai brother-in-law let me replace some of the after-market stuff back with the original parts. For example, the noisy Akrapovic exhaust had to be removed and the manufacturer's original "sound box" was screwed back under it. I'll leave it hanging now, but I can imagine that the Thai youngsters want the fastest and loudest muffler back soon after the technical inspection. Didn't I do the same with that first Mobilette and with that Zundapp when I was just under 18?
Man, those were the days 🙂
I discussed this problem with a police officer I know some time ago… He didn't seem very interested and said, “Well, if he gets pulled over, a guy like that will give the cop a few hundred baht and then he can drive on”.
A week ago, such a guy even drove on the middle aisle (so shelter) of the main market at Thepprasit, next to the Collosseum… none of the Thai sellers say anything about it.
Regularly call 1337… and email TAT
In Hua-Hin it's just the same…to annoy you to death! The police are standing by and watching (listening)!
They prefer to check the driver's license of a farang!
No offense, but doesn't this prove that we want to make Thailand a classic Western country (with many rules and laws) from the moment we live there??
A bit by analogy with the target food stalls that many of them also want to leave here…
Again, said without criticism, because I am a textbook example of someone who is very easily irritated and sometimes very sour about nuisance and the like, but I don't think any tourist, expat, or even a Westerner who has only just arrived in Thailand lives, finds this disturbing.
However, the moment you have firmly settled in a country, I think you take the reflexes of your culture with you.
Again, this is not a criticism, rather a question or a suspicion…
@pat,
You just step out of the store or a showroom and then such a weirdo comes racing over the sidewalk, so not quietly because he wants to be at the front at the traffic light.
We have seen this a few times and once a mother had to make an emergency jump with a child in her arm.
Fortunately, that kamikaze drove into an advertising sign with an emergency blow.
The above has nothing to do with “westernization” but simply with surviving and trying to use that gray matter.
LOUISE
Dear Louise, objectively speaking you are absolutely right, but the point I want to make is that apparently all these things only bother you if you live there permanently.
As a frequent Thailand tourist, I also experience these (irritating) aspects, but it doesn't bother me at all because I think this is part of the customs/manners of this country.
In fact, I love it, it even relaxes me, and I tolerate it because I don't think I should care about how another country functions.
If something about a country bothers me, I stay away.
So I really hope that Thailand will not introduce too much of the same western customs of our countries.
If someone is objectively right, he or she is simply right. This is not about (sometimes) some irritating habits, which are only irritating because they would not (or significantly less) occur in your country of origin (which is still the question in this case), it is about dangerous behavior. Life-threatening, or hearing-damaging, if that happens more here than elsewhere, it's not just a cultural difference. It has nothing to do with that. Insofar as it also occurs in the Netherlands, it is also just brutal violence there. Pat, you need to differentiate between what is unacceptable everywhere, and what may require adjustments from you, but are just manageable.
You're right that there are universally unacceptable things, but I was mainly responding to Henny's reader submission and there's the point:
“Thai young people consider it a sport to drive around with a motorbike without a silencer and usually without a helmet”.
Louise talks about racing on the pavement and making emergency jumps, which is unacceptable in all countries.
Without a silencer and without a helmet (!!!) she says, well that really leaves me stone cold...
Unless you apparently live there, and that repeats the main point of my argument.
You also risk hearing damage in New York!
Indeed, quite right. But many here seem to lack that gray matter.
After all, there are norms and values that demonstrate a form of civilization, which cross borders and are of all times.
Apparently they have a long way to go before they get there.
Where there is no control, the madman is the boss.
Here in Buriram, a beautiful six-lane road has been built between the city and the football stadium (race circuit), now this road has been converted into a true race circuit by the motorbikers in the evenings, especially on Friday and Saturday evenings, and then preferably drive as fast as possible without a silencer , without lights and without helmet.
How so that Thailand is in the top 10 of the most deadly accidents?
As a correction regarding motorcycle accidents with fatal outcome, we are now number uno here in Thailand.
Concerning fatal traffic accidents number two .
Definitely worthy of congratulations.
Jan Beute.
I think this is a problem that affects all people.
Whether you are an expat or are on holiday in Thailand a few times a year.
In my village in Isaan the boys prefer to drive around with what I call a tractor. Lots of noise and as loud as possible. They have absolutely no insight into what is happening on the road.
It is not surprising that uncle agent does nothing about this. because in the last 40 years, a cop has never been here.
In the villages I think the pujabaan has something to say about this. if not then the kamnan.
But these, too, gleam with absence to call a halt to youth.
My dog was recently killed by a kid like this.
BUT there is also a one and a half year old boy walking around here.
Luckily I have a big fence so he can't go out into the street.
What does surprise me is that when the sun : tractor : comes along, the little boy is glued to the fence... he loves it. except Grandpa
I used to have a Honda moped, 50 cc, four-stroke, partially cut-off exhaust. Later a real motorcycle, BMW 500 cc with two megaphone exhausts. Now you would be quickly removed from the road in NL because of the inconvenience to others. Rightly so!
I am now a "few" years less young. When I'm awakened in the middle of the night by another Thai grumbler racing past, I'm not happy at all, on the contrary. But immediately afterwards I also have to think back to my own childhood. And that eases the pain a bit. Do have a motor now, with a deep sound, yet civilized loudness. I too notice the increase in noise in Thailand: not only mopeds are tampered with, also with motorcycles and cars. Police don't do anything, too bad. Living in a quiet location is becoming more and more a luxury. Putting earplugs in at night will help. Or throw some hurdles in the way.
Well, the youth of today.
“Our youth today has bad manners, contempt for authority, and no respect for elders. (…) Young people contradict their parents, keep their mouths shut in company and tyrannize their teachers.' Speaking is one Socrates, some 2500 years ago.