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Home » Going out » The dreary end of the Cheap Charly bar in Bangkok
The dreary end of the Cheap Charly bar in Bangkok
Recently there was a question about the status of the catering establishments in Sukhumvit Soi 11. From the bar Cheap Charlie (see photo), which has since been demolished, to Restaurant Soi 11, which is still in full operation, everything on the left is empty. Ready to hit the ground running as well.
Submitted by Paul Schiphol
And so it goes with so many little things in this part of Sukhumvit rd. they must disappear for shopping malls, luxury retail companies, residential towers and hotels. For example, part of the beginning of the still attractive soi 8 is on the list of demolition.
And will the legendary 'Beergarden' in soi 7 also disappear, now that the rest of its surroundings have already been bulldozed away?
Yes, that is the economic law of supply and demand. Land prices are skyrocketing and the owners of small establishments can become very rich overnight by selling their tent. And don't blame them. They have rarely heard of customer loyalty. The wealth may be spent on expensive goods such as a new house, a luxury car, jewelry and gold for mother, wife and gig, and nothing is left for the future. Children and grandchildren should take care of themselves.
This is not too bad, on almost all shops to be demolished there are neat large placards that refer to the various new addresses. Some with phone no. with the announcement that if customers take the trouble to wait, a car will be sent to take them to the new address.
Doesn't seem like wasting it on a gig at all to me.
Some plots of land in Pattaya and the surrounding area are used on lease terms.
The contract expires after a number of years and the lease amount is suddenly increased sharply
then this makes no sense for many entrepreneurs to continue.
The same applies to rented premises where restaurateurs etc. work.
If the restaurant is doing well, the rent by the (jealous) owner can be substantial next year
to be raised. End of story, you don't work for the cat's k……!
well,
I have been coming to Krabi, (Ao Nang Beach) for many years and every time I was surprised that the prices in the restaurants had become quite expensive and that by now almost all Thai restaurant owners have left and been replaced by operators from India.
At one point I got into a conversation with his manager and he said that the original owners of the restaurants now lease them for up to 100.000 Bhat per month.
To which said; that this is a dead end, because everyone is pricing themselves out of the "market" and therefore fewer and fewer people come to Krabi and going to Phuket is again "fierce" competition.
The manager was very honest and said that he also sees the downward spiral, but the owners only want more rent per month and certainly not less. On the entire boulevard, he said, there were only a few original owners left and more than 95% of the properties are rented out.
And yes, we know Thais who drive each other “crazy” by telling them to ask for more rent.
But meanwhile, Krabi does go down.
That will not be much different in Bangkok.
Greetings Gerrit.
They do with rental houses too. After, take away, every 6 months, raise the rent. I don't know how many times I moved because of this so-called rent increase. I got so tired of it that I bought my current house because of another rent increase. Bought for my wife.
If things continue like this, another big city will lose its charms and only skyscrapers with hotels will remain. Who will go to Bangkok then? Just to fill hotels? I do not think so…. But apparently that doesn't bother policymakers.
Also expats who have such a bar on lease contract and when taking over a bar (those are the only real estate where expats want and can invest their money with nice sales and busy bar talk) and after that contract has been signed find out that the end of his lease contract does not expire in 1 or 2 years, but in 3 months. Conclusion Company List and Deceit.
Hope of these Farangs have put their hard-earned money into such bars and have fallen between two stools…
And more will follow because there are a lot of Farang prospectors there in Pattaya.
Pathetic but true
Watch out and enjoy but please do not invest in bar properties because most bars are owned by the Police and the Mafia and in the end you will lose everything and you will be left empty-handed
Been coming to Thailand for 30 years and it is booming…..bug not for Farangs okay
Groet
TonyM
When I see that photo I can imagine that a major renovation including amovement is imminent in this neighborhood.
With the current land prices, restoration to the original state is not economically justified and also not feasible solely on the basis of nostalgic and sentimental reasons.
Fortunately, I read in one of the comments that the expensive houses, new cars and gold-decorated women that we increasingly see in Bangkok are owned by the former owners of these types of establishments, so that they, just like the welcome quality tourist, will shed a tear.
By the time Bangkok and Krabi have completely collapsed, the children and grandchildren will probably be able to find a job in an idyllic Thai restaurant in one of the then emerging markets in Africa, so that they do not assure those already so lazy children in advance of a spread bed and a well-stocked fridge for life is not so strange either.
It is nice that there are so many entrepreneurs from India who have no problem paying the high rents. Those people are of course much smarter than a Farang and also much more businesslike and they are the only ones who are not scammed.
We, Cheap Charlie Hollanders, will have to retreat to Phuket for the time being, so I read, where prices just won't go up due to the cutthroat competition.
Take advantage of all these wisdoms.
From me they can immediately bulldoze this wreckage flat. And then that the few who think back nostalgically to their visit quickly forget this loft. New businesses open every week in Bangkok: coffee shops, pubs, restaurants, tea rooms, eateries. Often in a very nice atmosphere. Cozy furnishings or sleek modern or with natural materials or use of themed furnishings. Long live the change and renewal and visiting a new location is always fun. Then feel like a real citizen of the world visiting a new business in Bangkok.