A dating butterfly
On this blog there have already been some posts about the phenomenon of a dating site to make contact with a Thai lady in an alternative way. Here's the story of Tommy, a man with a lot of experience in this field.
Tommy is in his fifties, always well-dressed and well-groomed, and I think quite an attractive man to ladies. At first glance he comes across as a bit grumpy, but can be very charming towards the female staff of a pool hall, where I regularly meet him.
Lately I have noticed a few things about his doings. A number of times he came to the pool hall on Sunday evening, where we play a tournament, with a Thai lady by his side and that was always a different beauty. On other days he often sat behind the computer available in the pool hall, “messing around” on a dating site specializing in Thai ladies.
dating site
Recently there was a picture of a beautiful Thai woman in the picture and he asked me my opinion about her. All I could say was that she was a beautiful lady, for I knew no further details. He said that he had chosen the woman on this dating site - in other posts also irreverently referred to as a marketplace - to make an appointment with. I made the connection with the ladies I had seen in his company before and he confirmed that he had also met them through the same dating site and spent a happy weekend with them.
“Gosh, interesting, Tommy, do you do that often?” In this way he has met about 80 (eighty) Thai ladies in the past two years and invited them to come to Pattaya for one or two days for further contact. Initially he started on that dating site with the idea of entering into a serious relationship, he did not find the “offer” in beer bars, discos, etc. attractive.
Gradually he came to the conclusion that a permanent and serious relationship is not for him, but he continued to date on that website. Eighty ladies have therefore “fallen” for him in two years, which means that he is occupied practically every weekend. I then decided to play a journalist and interviewed him about his experiences.
Thai ladies
Tommy is on the site with a profile and photo and is then regularly approached by ladies, who are also on the site with a photo and profile. Conversely, of course, he also looks for ladies who look attractive in the first place, but who also meet his requirements, and then sends them a first approach message.
As far as those requirements are concerned, she shouldn't be too young, preferably between 25 and 40 years old, a job is a big plus, speaking English, children no problem. She must also be prepared to come to Pattaya, because Tommy only plays “home games”.
Having something to do every weekend requires a lot of work, planning and organization for Tommy. He is in constant contact with about six ladies, after the first contact a few more messages follow and then telephone numbers are exchanged, because, says Tommy, it is easier to talk by phone than via a chat box.
He knows some Thai expressions and can say very charmingly that she has such a sweet voice and that he wants to meet her in person. One in six contacts then results in an appointment, which usually takes about 3 weeks from the first contact. Whether Tommy took the initiative in such a case or whether the lady sent him a first message is neatly divided into fifty/fifty.
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Office job
Of the ladies Tommy meets, he says that most have an office job or are teachers. Often a derailed relationship with a ภาษาไทย behind her back and often also mother of a child. They sometimes know Pattaya (not as a bar girl) and sometimes they have no idea what awaits them. Through the dating site they try to get into a relationship with a Farang for a better financial existence and security for the education of the child. Of course, the care for the family also plays a role in the background. For the women with whom he meets, it is in most cases the first contact with a Farang.
When the lady (on duty, let's say) travels to Pattaya, she is neatly collected from the bus station by Tommy. He has (supposedly) arranged a room for her in a hotels and the party can begin. He takes her out to a good restaurant, he gives her a few small gifts and maybe a disco visit.
In the meantime they talk a lot about themselves and a possible relationship. The evening is then invariably spent in the reserved room, where Tommy also spends the night with her. For Tommy, sex is the main motivation for meeting and although some ladies are very reluctant at first, he manages to get his pleasure in 99 percent of those appointments.
Costs
A second meeting is never possible, because the next morning after breakfast Tommy tells in a very charming way and with undeniable arguments that he had a great weekend, but that a lasting relationship is not in it: “Of course, you understand, my dear!”
He convinces them that she will surely succeed in finding a good man and then says goodbye to her at the bus. Tommy pays all the costs of the weekend and the bus trip, but he does not pay the lady anything else.
Eighty appointments in two years, that is not small. Only one weekend went completely wrong when he had an appointment with a beautiful lady in the photo, who turned out to be a ladyboy upon arrival in Pattaya. Sorry, but that was not the intention, Tommy paid her/him the bus fare and she/he went back to where she came from the same day.
What do I think of this story? My motto is that everyone should do what they want, as long as it doesn't involve drugs or pedophilia. Still, I can't give much credit to Tommy's actions, who for his own pleasure take advantage of women who sincerely seek a relationship with a Farang.
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100% agree with the above. Pure abuse of trust. Must precede a lot of lies, because if he tells in advance what he has in store, no one will come. Very sad everyone. The hands are itching to be honest.
Did you know that farangs have a reputation for getting into bed with everyone? Here's another example that ruins it for the neat guys.
My ex neighbor English teacher from the USA claims he has had over 480 young girls in bed in 5 years girls who were not only from school but every day he was on the internet sometimes girls came by bus took them out for dinner and then sex if they didn't want to get back on the bus?
Is around forty but looks much younger passes himself off as a multimillion dollar financial advisor
he is going to get was active in Udon thani before in Bangkok now in Chonburi ?
There are a lot of those failed men in their country walking around not only Thailand but also
elsewhere in the world who ruin everything for the others who do want a serious relationship?
Once on the plane I spoke to a young man who had bet with two friends who could get the most girls in bed during the holidays. His friend had won, I believe with 42 ladies, but had ended up with an HIV infection. God/Buddha punishes immediately or in the long term…
Of course I don't know from my own experience, but there are also a lot of neat Thai young ladies who just need a fun, relaxed weekend out. And who better for that than someone who is completely outside her Thai social circle and even lives in another city?
Of course, such a lady can also look for a nice Thai man, but chances are that she will pay for the whole weekend (you often see that here in Thailand).
No, I think that "Tommy" sometimes breaks a serious young lady's heart, but I think that 9 out of 10 young ladies know very well what they are getting into.
A real decent Thai doesn't just go to Pattaya to meet a man she doesn't know.
Chang Noi
Chang Noi is not wrong, and many of these hookups don't have to take place in Pattatya at all, and don't even have to last a weekend, and many ladies don't even ask to be feted. But they are just ladies with an excellent job, often at management level, who are not interested in a relationship, just want to enjoy a few hours of fun. And often they make it a condition that they do not want to be contacted further.
These ladies are normally in the age range of 35 to 50, and are often very intelligent and very pleasant company and very attractive. But also very fond of their freedom. And they know that once they are in a relationship, especially with a Thai man, they lose most of their personal freedom.
And it is better for their social relations that they do not know that they are contacting a Westerner. for fun. They are therefore very selective in their contacts,
Most of these contacts are made through dating sites for mature ladies and gentlemen.
Quite a few career ladies also visit the Women only clubs where they are pampered by nice boys who they often maintain as a samee noi.
I think that story is a bit black and white, moreover, he seems like a bluff from that guy. I myself have quite a lot of experience with dating via a Thai site. I have the advantage that I have a fairly good knowledge of Thai in word and writing. So if a lady does not speak, read or write English, this is no problem for me.
Trust me one thing though, those so-called dating sites ladies are often much more cunning than a barmaid. Do you really think they don't have an agenda of who comes when? LOL.
Try to get them on the phone this time of year, they are just not available for 3 to 4 weeks (the average farang holiday period). Often the story is when you see them online again, ohh the phone had flickered in the water ..
And yes, I also have experience with better-off ladies through these sites, who don't even want you to pay when you go out.
And indeed as Chang Noi - lol what a name, you make many Thai people laugh - but that's off topic to elaborate on that - already says. A decent Thai will think twice about going to Pattaya.
Unsavory, deceitful, ridiculous, and could go on and on, hopefully he will run into the wrong one.
in a word what a sick guy that tommy and only wants to take advantage of the poor girls . I can swear at that man. But then I wish him all the sickness
Kind of lame reactions from that one Tommy.
I myself have been living in Thailand for more than 13 years, and I know all too clearly about all this
works with dating etc.
I myself was married to a Thai, and it is definitely NOT my hobby to invite a different date every week via one of the many dating websites.
But let's also look at it from the other side...
A) such a Thai woman is often on various websites with an outdated photo of such a
Taken 10 to 20 years ago.
B) This same Thai also makes many appointments with foreigners through dating.
C) Often the Thai in question does NOT write her own story for the foreigner in English.
D) Almost all Thai ladies don't take a foreigner because they look so pretty.
but for his position, financial wealth and generosity!
That one Tommy isn't that bad, to wish him the worst of illnesses.
Phew, what a story. The pot calling the kettle black. It's certainly not kosher here in Thailand, but most guys who visit Thailand often don't do this for the culture. I personally continue to find it a very difficult story with those Thai ladies, despite the fact that there are very neat ladies. And gentlemen like Mr. Tommy you have a lot, because rather free than paying 20 euros, right?
And then you wonder why the Farang always sounds so negative in Thailand when you hear it. Both your reaction and the story above confirm that..... What an incredible kl**tz*k that "Tommy"
Free association (psychology) What is the first thought that comes to mind for a man, even if he has never been to Thailand, when he hears the word Thailand? Temples? Or something else?
Roughly, of course, you have two categories of farangs when dealing with Thai women.
Those who cherish the illusion that the ladies like them because of their looks, charm or personality and not because of the pecunia (even though they can hardly pick up a woman in Europe) and the realists or, if you will, the cynics like “Tommy”
Known one too. Old, walks with prosthesis. Every month a different young lady.
Was realistic enough to realize that it's all about the money after all.
Exceptions may be young blonde blue-eyed farangs. As I have often seen, the Thai ladies really want to go for that.
In Asia, money and status always play a role in relationships, also between Asians and more than in the West, but the extent to which this can vary. In relationships between, to a certain extent, marginalized Westerners and young beautiful and very poor Thai farmer's daughters, you can count yourself how the meter will turn. (wait a minute, I'm saying that now, but alas - many can't).
a bit unworldly though, or will it be a generation gap?
this is happening all over the world.
have you never heard of lexa.nl?
easy 5 dates a week if you don't look like a troll.
I don't understand the generation gap. It is precisely the people of the 60s and 70s who broke the sexual taboos. Later generations have actually added nothing to it.
in the 60s there was not much dating via the internet 😉
a friend once told me, in thailand you need a fly swatter to knock the women off you and that's true, every day I am asked, where you go, what you do, you want to go out with me etc .etc. so really not a piece of art, sorry but for me that is not something to be proud of
pennywise poundfoolish, I don't believe that story. We had a good looking guy in the course who also went for the thai ladies, end of story, he lost his looks in 3 months, dated 22 thai ladies in that time and there is nothing left of him. No muscle, no health and the last lady he went for wanted 5000 baht before she came to him. And this guy is somewhere in his 20s. Oh and he didn't pass the course either. Pretty sad story. I sincerely hope he meets his thai lady of his dreams but doubt it. You should learn from it sometime, right? Right?
Levina,
I'm a bit surprised about your posting, actually I can't make sense of it, to clarify your story for me (and maybe) many others the following questions;
1e) what kind of course
2e) where was that course given
3e) why did he lose everything, muscles, health, “looks”
4e) why so much English
5e) why "end of story" in my opinion is not even a beginning "of story", if so, may we
than the whole story, including your role?
Sorry sorry sorry for my unclear story…
Ok whoever says a must also say b of course so here are my answers to the following questions
1e) Course: Thai massage
2nd) In Chiang Mai
3e) He came across as a healthy strong guy but soon he became ill with vague complaints. This took a total of 3 months and he only came to the course sporadically. The size of his muscles (arms and legs) have visibly shrunk. The vague complaints (and not only according to me but also according to other classmates) were caused by him going out so much, or having a fight with one of his girlfriends in the middle of the night. Maybe he got something too (food or sex, don't know).
4e) I was the only Dutch person during the course, I spoke English for 3 months, now more Dutch people have come to that school, but they were only there for a short time.
Yesterday I had spoken to him and then I read this story. I admit a too fast reaction probably caused by the delicious wine with dinner, hence the incoherent story with an English term here and there.
5e) end of story... By that I meant that with his big mouth he had in the beginning about "Thai ladies" he actually didn't get what he wanted, besides that he has his goal (if you do a course of 3 months if you still want to succeed it seems to me otherwise you take 1 of a week) also not achieved. At the end of the course (last week) I gave him a book: “how to get along with girls” because I won't take this book home anyway and because I thought it would be useful to him, in his heart it's not a bad boy. He has told me and others things that I would not like to experience.
My role in this story: beholding classmate? One time he was super happy because he had met the woman of his life and then showed up at school a few days later, I think his heart is broken regularly. Maybe he asked for it, I wasn't with all his adventures, I only saw him at school. Didn't really think much of him either. We just talked about this last week. My girlfriends were a bit more interested, so I knew what was going on around his person.
I hope I've come across more clearly now, I'm almost leaving again, I still have 2 nice days on the schedule.
This blog has made a lot of things clear, it made a big difference during my stay. I am very happy with that and I am grateful to the makers. To be honest, I'm not in a hallelujah mood about Thailand myself, but that doesn't take away from the fact that I had a good time. It seems difficult to really live here, luckily we are not all the same and others can see the charm.
Thank you, it makes things much clearer indeed.
And that you are not in a Hallelujah mood, on my advice people went on holiday to Thailand and they were not happy with my advice, they didn't like the country and the people 3 x, but everyone has their preference, fortunately everyone has free choice of holiday destination
I learned a lot here, which is never wrong. What I learned most of all is that you shouldn't jump to conclusions too quickly. That's why I think I won't appreciate Thailand until I'm back home, I've been in 3 city for 1 months and haven't seen anything else so I'm definitely ignorant! I think I will come back again in December and this time for a vacation. You can't tar the Dutch with the same brush, let alone the enormous differences that occur here. The experience of being a foreigner myself is unforgettable and all the farang I've had the pleasure of meeting (with or without a Thai beauty) are all very nice personalities, despite all the difficulties I am very happy with this experience!
That syndrome can also indicate dengue, dengue fever. I've probably had it myself. Ended up in the hospital with 87 kg and left 6 weeks later with 63 kg and a cirrhosis of the liver.
I have now found out because I met a Dutchman in Thailand who could explain this to me. He himself had been very ill and had lost a lot of weight.
That's a good one, I'll email him right away. Thank you!!!!
In my opinion, men like Tommy make Thai women act like gold diggers when they feel abused after such a weekend.
After such a WE ? Most are smart enough, and know very well what they are getting into. They are not that naive, perhaps some who react so negatively here.
What a wonderful cliché again: “Through the dating site they try to get into a relationship with a Farang for a better financial existence and security for the education of the child. Of course, the care for the family also plays a role in the background.” This is always used by these kinds of crooks to justify what is crooked, namely that they only come to countries such as Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam (or South America, or Africa) for 1 reason and that to buy as cheaply as possible to come to their liking. In this case even for nothing. It usually also plays a role, as Schuurtjesman also notes, that these types of men in the west probably cannot seduce a decent woman or, as my father always said: “They cannot heat a corpse”. So they are just complete failures! Characteristics of this kind of “men”: (too) little money, no charisma, EQ of a one hit wonder (procreate and die) and above all proud of their many “conquests”. Nothing more beautiful than putting yourself, preferably in the presence of others of the same kind, with a feather in the well-known opening.
Incidentally, these are also often the "men" who eventually run into the wrong person, namely a handy lady who turns them out of a financial leg. And then suddenly they are those big-hearted, naive, well-meaning, very nice, unsuspecting, sympathetic good guys who have been seriously abused. Such a cliche!!
I can't escape the impression that your response also contains a few delicious clichés 😉 Your story will probably be true for a large number of men, just like the comment about Thai women that you label as a cliché is true for a large number of women. Cliches are cliches for a reason.
I will be the last to deny that there are women in Thailand who are looking for financial security and who think they can find it with a foreigner, but can't they also be found in the Netherlands? Have you ever had lunch somewhere on the PCHstraat in Amsterdam? People always pretend that this is a Thai invention!
And what is your "large number of women" based on? Has there been scientific research into this? Can you give me the source of this wisdom, or is this an observation from your own observation from your social circle? However, I assume that you are, in my opinion, somewhat premature in conclusion driven by these kinds of stories.
I assume this bloq is for Thailand and all things Thai lovers. I recently read that we, lovers of Thai beauty, find it so strange and annoying that we are viewed with suspicion by Westerners when we pass by with a Thai beauty. Unfortunately, I have to conclude that there are quite a few pyromaniacs hanging around on this bloq who use clichés such as “Thai women (=definition) are A on security or money for themselves, children and family, B with dinner in bed, C scammers of pathetic, defenseless naive (old and fat) men and more of this kind of nonsense throw a lot of oil on the fire!!
Besides the fact that they are all clichés, it is also disrespectful!!!
Dear Bacchus, you already answered your own question. 'Can't they also be found in the Netherlands?' Probably, but you already indicate yourself: 'I assume that this bloq is intended for Thailand and all things Thai enthusiasts.' Yep! Bull's eye shot.
My reference to 'a large number' is based on personal experiences with Thai ladies from various social circles. If someone is consciously looking for a farang instead of a good partner in general, and that's what this was all about, then a financial motive usually plays a role, yes.
Also, with all due respect, I find it ironic that you use the term "disrespectful"; After all, you yourself talk about 'this kind of bats', 'complete failures', 'EQ of a mayfly' (perhaps you mean IQ), etc. Doesn't really show respect, I think.
Reading and understanding……, I sometimes have trouble with it.
If it is written about “Thai women” then any unsuspecting reader will think that it is about the Thai woman in general. In other words, every Thai woman is by definition after money. If you read the piece again, it is suggested that every Thai woman on a dating site is after this. I therefore state that in these types of articles there is always a lot of generalization and then often based on personal experiences. Likewise with you. As I suspected, that "large number" of yours is indeed based on your personal experience with a few Thai ladies. That's how the stories come into the world!
The fact that people sometimes look for a partner with a different cultural background may have to do with money, but it is not a definition. However, it may also be that their emotional and social values (EQ) are more in line with someone with a different cultural background. In the Netherlands, for example, I know Turkish and Moroccan ladies who definitely do not want a man of the same ethnic background. You can even fall for appearances. For example, I think Asian and South American women are beautiful. But the best thing is of course when just love does its job!!
Indeed, I have little respect for people who show no respect for the feelings of others, such as this Tommy, among others. I'm very curious how many women this charming good-looking soul will score (that's what these kind of men call it, I believe) if he simply says to these ladies: "I want a little butt, baby!!"
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Personally, I think that Tommy is a creep. I loathe people with a way of life like his. On the other hand, such a woman must also be wiser and protect herself and not immediately jump into bed with a complete stranger. But………”That's life”.
This post is a bit older than I thought… from 2010? But the topic is apparently still relevant. At first I just don't like it. A man who is so premeditated in getting a woman for his bed. But hey, everyone has a hobby.
There are plenty of men who also promise a bar-lady mountains of gold to make them happy. Then you have to deal with women, who don't have it easy in their lives anyway. Often they have had little or no education and they have no choice to earn anything more than the minimum wage.
The women he "dates" are already of a different caliber. They have an education, come from somewhat better backgrounds and are also slightly less vulnerable. There are quite a few of them who do exactly the same with their dates, as he does with them. And the advantage is that even though they earn money themselves, they can have a nice weekend and that for free.
There will be some who are serious about it and would like to meet the man of their life, but they will (certainly here in Thailand) not immediately want to jump into bed with that man.
You don't have to feel sorry for them, but you don't have to approve either. I think it's pathetic when a man has nothing else in mind than to fuck every weekend and is looking for a new prey for the rest of the week.
But that is my opinion.
I would say the adventure of it lies on both sides , the gamble is probably a fun and sex-filled evening or night on the one hand , and on the other; the adventure and trip that might make you a little better financially, I just wonder does it really have to happen 80 times ???
On July 9, 2011, the cliché was already quoted at 12:06 am, with which I agree: farang who try to justify their sex adventures by displaying an apparently questionable attitude of Thai ladies. That's how tough they are. You can't call this kind of adolescent behavior adult. Use Thai women's behavior as an excuse to use these behaviors for their own pleasure at the same time. I know a number of women who demand money and goods from men via the webcam via the worldwide web. I also know men who organize through the same www that they can 'amuse themselves' in TH for money and good. But what does this kind of hassle from both Farang men and Thai women actually have to do with men abroad who want to get in touch via dating sites with women who want the same serious contact? Nothing right? Tommy's story is about a man in his 50s who is still chasing his cock. Every year dozens of women during the few days of a weekend. I think you're crazy then; sex addict, obsessive, or whatever. Be that as it may, not worthy of dedicating another post to it. Old publication by the way: from July 2011.
Anyway: the story is not about dating sites, but about excesses of them and behaviors in the margins that are possible because people push boundaries in advance. Also sickly.
Hahaha, Nice reactions, but haven't most of them been married for a long time and a bit round the state pension age?
Are you ever on dating sites? ( secretly that the Thai woman does not find out? ). Do you know how dating sites work? It's all a big farce with ulterior motives on both sides. What do we call a Dutch woman who dives into her suitcase the first night with a strange guy?…..Yes! Why does the Thai woman do it? Can't they say no? Can they also say no if they are not really interested in the man? Come on hey, don't make it more difficult than it is…..the knife cuts both ways, one time the woman laughs and the other time the man and sometimes both laugh and something really beautiful comes out! Why are dating sites popping up these days? To make people happy or just to make money off people's backs?
It's an abuse of the situation. And that abuse can happen on both sides. If you yourself knowingly abuse the situation, then I hope you have some moral sense and the thoughts about your behavior start to gnaw at you.
Incidentally, I can imagine that if you have ever become a victim, you will 'take back' a similar type. Think of all the scammers on the internet who pretend to be an attractive partner, but only want money and/or a residence permit. I've already seen too much rubbish on television where such a lady from faraway countries (usually Russia, by the way) comes to Europe, picks the man bald and then (after the residence permit) goes a step higher or emigrates to the US (the Valhalla of many a golddigger) .
Oh well... you are there yourself, so you should be less naive yourself, pay more attention and don't fall into the trap.
If you don't trust someone on a dating site: you can also create a second (fake) profile and see how the other person reacts to it. Very educational…
Another nice story written.
If this story also took place in reality, I doubt it.
But in my opinion he is not worth a wink in the nose.
Cheating , just as bad maybe even worse than the Thai .
I too am annoyed by the behavior of many Farangs .
That 's why I , Janneman have few Farang friends .
Most of them have all the problems in their past in their country of origin.
And then come to Thailand .
And then I write from personal experience , that may be said .
Read another interesting piece on Thai visa today. com about all those visa runs.
I think Thailand is getting tired of all those cheap charlies who live here and only cause problems.
Jan Beute.
Dear Jan, please substantiate…..I read, I read so much, is that why? It is a very easy story and everyone has their own ideas and thoughts about it. But every falang keeps the Thai eating. He has to pay rent, he has to eat at a Thai food stall and he still has to drink, even if the water is from the 7/11. He pays for visas, the baht bus, clothing, a taxi bus for a visa run, at the end of the day every Thai benefits! If they'd rather lose than get rich, I'll leave it to the Thai! Incorrectly, Thailand should make different rules regarding visas, such as Schengen. PROVE you have 1500 bht a day to live here! Perhaps you should turn to the government that makes the rules rather than "smart" people who take advantage of Thai regulations!
Mathias, I don't want to be a dick, but if a Dutch person lives in the Netherlands, he or she must also pay rent/mortgage; should he or she eat in a food stall or get a ready meal at the AH? Doesn't the average Dutchman also drink in the Netherlands, even if it's from the tap? Clothing? Transport? Why, the Thai benefits; and then also “every” Thai, as you say!? What a narrow thought! And then ask Jan for a substantiation????
I find it a bit strange story. Putting so much effort into having sex on weekends while in Pataya. He doesn't care about the money, he pays everything for the ladies
And gives them presents. Is it abuse I dare not say
I do think that you can give false hope with it. That's why I think he's a bad guy
I certainly would have asked him. What he thinks of it when a woman is sent home with the hope of a happy ending. And then grieves. If you do it on the scale he does it on. Then they will be there for sure.
A guy who only thinks about himself. Unfortunately, it is also good to stay in Thailand for those kinds of people
A bit strange what Mathias says. You also have to pay for all the things he mentions here in the Netherlands. Only then quadruple.
And that you keep the Thai eating like you say
I would personally find it offensive. Who do you think you are
The fact that the Thai has food is because he takes you in the baht bus to where you want to go, he works for it. Or did you forget what work is and that you should get paid for it
Not a nice reaction Mathias
sad story, but I must confess that I have not always been a sweetheart... As this "gentleman" neatly says: a relationship is not in it. I said every now and then: now you shouldn't fall in love with me because I don't feel like it! In short. Thailand, the Netherlands, people are being “abuse” everywhere. Men of women but also certainly vice versa.
Wondering if Tommy has already found the “one”!
Wonderful!!
How is this man doing now 10 years later Gringo? That someone likes to solve it party or fuck (n ** kt) fine, to each his own. But be honest. Unfortunately, there are people walking around (man, woman, Dutch, Thai or whatever) who think purely of themselves, their own pleasure and another but are happy to sell a false story to benefit themselves at the expense of the other. I wonder how those people can look themselves in the mirror? I consider honesty to be an important and necessary good. I've also gone out with ladies to see if there was a relationship. Sometimes such a lady is nice but also not nice enough to live together under one roof. Have always expressed my feelings honestly, so that whatever else came of it or not, those ladies saw that I had been honest and never pushed anything for my own pleasure or gain.
Whether the abuses and lies by an individual Thai or Dutch man or woman are portrayed to the entire group? Until recently I would say ' no dude, what kind of fool lets examples of 1 or 2 abuses form the image for the entire group? If there is a group at all as a kind of unitary sausage?'. If you think soberly, you won't let that happen. But now that I think about it, I can't rule out the possibility that there are people who let the actions of a few speak for a much larger mass of people and then put a label on it. Possibly to justify certain actions for themselves: not a problem at all to catch that man/woman because his/her kind of people… *fill it in*”. But bottom line I still believe that the vast majority of people can be trusted enough to good with a healthy dose of (self) respect and sincerity. This anecdote by Gringo says little about the Netherlands, Thailand or that population, but it is an example of an excess that can serve as an example of what I see as an abuse. So I wonder if sir has finally encountered himself?
I don't know, Rob, I haven't spoken to him about it since. In any case
I never see him browsing a computer on a dating site again.
Like the person in this example, there are many on this earth who are preoccupied with their own self and their sexual needs, often at the expense of his or her fellow man. It is easy to score on someone else's suffering or they are cheated themselves, that could also be the case, but it is still in the minority. A character who leaves nothing to be desired as to what type he is. No contribution to a healthy and pleasant society, but that won't bother him and not even after 10 years I'm afraid. A big egoist. It takes a very good psychologist to make something of it and he will not be in for that. There is no doubt that there are two people who do the tango and there is also something to be said for the naivety of the necessary women. Information and education, among other things, are important pillars that contribute to arriving at the right insights. But poverty and hopelessness certainly does something to a person. So the question is whether every adult has really grown up to the point where they can make an informed decision. Unfortunately, the examples speak for themselves.
It takes two, to tango
You want, the woman has to want too.Simple.
Ever read that Thai women, who have a farang (living abroad) as a friend, keep them and go to Thailand themselves with other men. Is just sex, but "loving" friend longtime.
Experienced myself with a Philippine. I seriously, not her, it turned out in the end.
Can't blame Tommy if it works out this way. He still does his best with dinners, presents and a hotel room, even pick up. In Pattaya that can be much easier for a seesaw.
I know someone abroad, actually looking for 1 woman, he says. Have my doubts, but it's his life.
He starts off nicely with hello and that sort of bla la bla on TInder or whatever.
Then gets no response, then takes a different tack with lots of sexual innuendos and see there in no time he has contact and a schedule for a good time.
Well, just like that. Exists in this time and seems to be a normal occurrence.
The question is whether a long-time relationship can still work or whether you should be satisfied with the time you get.
And what happens during that time, Joost should know. Do you know what your girlfriend/wife is up to? What's going on in her mind?
Nope, it's about a trust, but an agenda can just as easily change.
I know that from my own experiences. One wrong interfering hair and you have a different situation.
Thought my first wife was serious too. Wrong, you are facing a divorce and why? Again Joost should know. I'm definitely not alone in that, I understand from conversations.
I can't blame Tommy, it works the way it works. Two to tango.
Thai dating agencies have a different revenue model than the Dutch ones.
With the Dutch, people with not too different ages and common interests will be linked.
I think that middle-aged and older men who enter into a relationship with much younger Thai women and believe that it is not about money or improving their financial position are quite naive.
Respect for the Thai lady in the village sometimes also plays an important role.
The lady has a chance to live in a nice house, the parents are taken care of, the children get a future, there will be a car and you take the relationship with that old Farang into the bargain.
Something the poorer Thai man cannot achieve.
Actually a win-win situation for both the older Farang and the younger Thai.
The older farang will be able to enjoy for a few more years and the younger Thai still has a large part of her life ahead of her in relative luxury.
'Eat a piece' means despicable person and is a swear word. Too bad we can 'like' here but not disapprove.
When I read the reactions like this, a lot of people think it's terrible what Tommy is doing. I'd say let go, both mature and agree.