Too good to be true…. no!

By Paul Schiphol
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7 August 2015

In a response to the Blog articles “Marriage Migration”, Paul Schiphol tells us with his story how he met his husband, and how a marriage came about in the Netherlands after many years. With this he wants to give a different and positive sound than the stories about less successful encounters that are regularly told via this Blog.


It is January 2001, as is often the case, flyers were distributed on Jomtien Beach, the A5 sheet of paper indicated in crooked English that a “white” party was being held that evening. It turned out to be a now no longer existing hotel / restaurant along the connecting road between Jomtien and Pattaya. Curious and also to eat somewhere else, I went to the restaurant in question that evening.

A band was playing at the edge of the pool and to my surprise there was no buffet, but a la card was served. It was a busy and fun place, soon my eye fell on one of the waiters on the other side of the pool, not so difficult because he stood out because he was an unusually tall guy for Thai standards. A mischievous fresh head with short hair, in short, the type I like. But yes, unreachable for my eyes with its "neighborhood" on the other side of the pool. The party was by no means what I imagine a party to be, so after eating the otherwise excellent food, I wanted to pay to continue my search in Pattaya Boys-town. However, then the unimaginable happened.

The waiter who brought me the bill also came with a question; “my friend likes to talk with you, can?As he asked me this he pointed in the direction of the tall waiter, who in turn looked interested in our direction. Oops, what's happening here? I said yes and paid my bill, my waiter made some arm gestures and as I walked towards the exit the tall waiter on the other side of the pool went in the same direction. We had a short chat and met well after his working hours at 02:00 am, in a bar that is also no longer in existence.

Without too many expectations on my part, he indeed entered the bar at exactly the agreed time, freshly showered and changed. It was early in the morning before we decided to go to my hotel together. Unfortunately, I only had a few days left of my vacation, which we always spent together after his working hours.

No, paying a "barfine" to spend more time together was, oddly enough, not on the menu at this restaurant.

We managed to keep in touch by mail and on my next vacation he was able to get a week off, which we spent in 2002 on the then much quieter Koh Samui. Anyway, for a long story, etc. etc. We saw each other every year and he came to the Netherlands four times for 3 months. Then started the integration process and since 2008 he lives with me in the Netherlands and we got married in 2010. He has now had a nice job in the Aalsmeer flower industry for years.

House old

Why this story? I regularly hear stories of men who return from Thailand head over heels in love, often they return within a year and then make agreements with far-reaching consequences. Often with a disappointing and costly divorce as a result after a short time.
By no means claiming that we have a monopoly on the truth with our long journey, but through my acquaintance with, and several visits to, his family in Isaan and he with mine in the Netherlands, an image of possibilities and impossibilities is slowly growing.

Unrealistic expectations are largely prevented with this calm process. His financial expectations and my (now our) options to support the family have also been well discussed.

Thailand does not have social legislation as we know it in the Netherlands, where the family is still the safety net. Especially in the Isaan where rice farmers really don't get the chance to save up a retirement provision, the children are their pension there. We therefore give the family a fixed monthly allowance and are never confronted with sick buffaloes, broken tractors, loved ones who have been urgently admitted with the most terrible diseases. My friend calls this their "salary" just like real wages, this is a fixed amount that does not increase if calamities occur.

House new

My mother-in-law turns out to be a good bookkeeper, she manages the pot and lays down reserves in case “of”. In addition, the house is also renovated every year. First, the wooden poles on which it stands were replaced by concrete poles, which also raised the house immediately. The following year a new roof was put on the house.

Another year later, the sand floor on the ground floor was also replaced by a neat, flat concrete floor and the building was expanded. A year later, the old half-decayed wooden walls of the 1e floor replaced by a kind of weather-resistant artificial planks (Trespa?) with windowless frames. The electricity has also been tackled, the dangerous mess of loose looped extension cords has been replaced by solid and professionally installed home installation.

In short, every year I look with amazement and respect at what improvements have been made to the house.

There are enough stories on the blog with less pleasant experiences, so I wanted to give a different sound. In short, it is not always doom and gloom with a Thai partner or their family.

10 thoughts on “Too good to be true…. no!"

  1. YUUNDAI says up

    PAUL and his Thai Man ( couldn't find a name )
    A story that does me very good! Thanks for that!

    I am thinking about bringing an OBADE through this blog to many other, also happy people, men and women who have a very long-term relationship.
    By giving them a chance to let others read that there is a positive side to the coin! Because relationships are often seen in the wrong light by both men and women. I know better now and I'm not the only one!
    Am only “afraid” that all kinds of whore runners, and in relationships cheated and sometimes robbed bar-tigers try to get their point with a lot of brawling and screaming, often only coming to Thailand for a short time for booze, drugs and sex. Oh well “they still have the pictures”.
    So;
    Are you a Dutch man and do you like Thai men and do you have a long-term relationship, respond!
    Are you a Dutch woman and do you like Thai women and do you have a long-term relationship, respond!
    Are you a Dutch man and do you like Thai women and do you have a long-term relationship, respond!
    Are you a Dutch woman and do you like Thai men and are you in a long-term relationship, respond!

    I'm just afraid that all kinds of " whore runners " who often fly over from the Netherlands, but also in relationships cheated and sometimes robbed " pub and bar tigers " who often only come to Thailand for DRINK, DRUGS and a lot of SEX, will react negatively, but oh well those people have luckily for them the pictures still.x1

    Is to see if something can be arranged with the editors to get rid of the reactions I intended, from certain coming reactions from the ones mentioned under X1!

    My article will be called, “Oh, they still have the photos, but we are still happy with our love!
    I hope to write this week, I'm quite busy with our move!
    Regards YUUNDAI

    • David Diamond says up

      Look forward to your article Yuundai!

      And thank you Paul, for your honest representation of how things can go well in a Thai-farang relationship!
      Like you, had a relationship with a Thai boy from Isaan for 15 years. Moving to Belgium, etc. Otherwise broadly similar course. Of course our house also had its cross, and Buddha! Write 'had':
      next September it will be 2 years my husband passed away turned 39 (cancer).
      And fate can be merciless, fighting the same disease itself since the beginning of this year.
      Hence also limiting my amounts on the blog, under pseudonym as signature…

      Ask Paul and Yuundai, and keep writing and posting!

      David Diamond

      • Paul Schiphol says up

        David, thank you. My sincere condolences and a lot of strength to you in your fight against this merciless disease. Sure, I'll continue to contribute from time to time. I wish you that you will still be able to make some trips to Thailand.
        Regards, Paul

    • Michel says up

      Yesterday I was married to Pui for exactly 17 years. But our anniversary is actually May 19 because we have been together since May 19, 1992, the day Pui arrived in the Netherlands. 23 years falls into the category of very long, right? Considering our ages (me 49, Pui 52) we hopefully have the same time ahead of us. And luckily we still have the photos...

  2. Paul Schiphol says up

    Yuunda, thank you very much for your approving response. But to put things into perspective, there is in principle nothing wrong with the fact that there are holidaymakers who travel to Thailand and some other Asian countries for Drinks and/or Sex. It brings money into the economy, satisfies their needs and provides opportunities for those who, for whatever reason, wish to earn a living in this industry.
    They can only be blamed for making agreements with naivety. In the said sector much is promised and little delivered, both farang and Thai are often fooled here when it comes to sincerity of feelings.
    That is precisely why, take the time to really get to know each other, be honest, not only to the other person, but first and foremost to yourself. What do you want, what do you expect, this of course over and over again. If you are a butterfly who likes to regularly eat another flower, do NOT enter into a permanent relationship, the chance that this will remain satisfactory for years to come is utopia.
    Regards, Paul Schiphol

  3. According to says up

    There is no registered same-sex marriage in the Netherlands.
    Ordinary civil marriage is open to 2 people of the same sex.
    Without changes, same rights and obligations.
    Married to my Thai husband for several years now.

    • rojamu says up

      there is a registered partnership outside marriage; both for straight and for gay.

  4. rojamu says up

    Paul, I met a boy from Isarn more than 10 years ago. He ran 2 small restaurants where I ate regularly. We started talking more and more and got to know each other better. Then tried to start a relationship. To be honest, this happened through trial and error. Mainly because they don't understand each other (I can't master Thai and the dialect and he speaks limited English). We respected each other's way of life and that's why things turned out well. We got married in the Netherlands in 2007. Although he did not want to go to the Netherlands, I still put some pressure on him to come here because he was diagnosed with dementia 5 years ago (he is now 36 years old and as we know, there are already children of about 15 years old who do this). to have ) . I felt that I had to take responsibility in this and not – literally – run away from it. The beginning was very difficult because fanatical Christians in Hoogeveen locked him up and abused him several times (you will be stoned to death; Leviticus). Through mediation we now have another house in another place. And now things are going well again (that was also the case before he came to the Netherlands, but I couldn't stay there with him all the time). We now travel back and forth when it suits us and he is very happy (also in the Netherlands). He gets along very well with the neighbors and has grown 16 kg himself. A bit too much in my humble opinion, but he doesn't care; so neither. Yes, it is definitely not doom and gloom everywhere. Besides spending a lot of money to save his mother who needed a sterile dialysis room, he or his family never asked me for money. That is also different from what I read a lot. Unfortunately, his mother passed away after more than a year and he and his sister now have the house there. To the extent that .

  5. Gerard Pots says up

    !8 Aug. We have been married for 9 years, in the Netherlands of course and especially the last 1/2 year I have looked at my dear husband, also from Isaan, with respect and love. Given my age, I was affected by balance disorders and had a terrible fall at the end of March. on my back, breaking my back.
    Unfortunately I am still dependent on the wheelchair, but due to the loving care, I cannot dress and undress myself, nor take a shower, my husband is making small steps forward.
    To be able to be with me 24 hours a day, he has closed his thriving massage annex beauty salon, I hope that I have recovered to the extent that I can do everything independently again and my husband can also return to his business independently.
    It did us both good that there are several male couples who go for it and show their love for each other in practice.
    Will let you know via the blog if everything is ok again.
    Gerard

  6. Rob V says up

    Thank you for sharing your beautiful story Paul! I don't find it surprising at all that if two people enter into a relationship with heart and mind, it will usually develop well, and that the bond with the in-laws is also just good and pleasant. And it's great that everyone can get married here in the Netherlands. My wife and I hope that Thailand will also arrange this. Finally, I wish all readers much love and happiness.


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