Khmer Rouge Comrade Duch has died
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After Pol Pot in 1998 and the second man of evil Nuon Chea, alias Brother number 2, died last year, Kaing Guek Eav, better known as Comrade Duch, also had the laid lead.
Much has been written on Thailandblog about the atrocities committed by the Khmer Rouge during its reign from 1975 to 1979. Pol Pot was never tried and Nuon Chea was defended for years by the Dutch lawyer Victor Koppe, who was able to fill his money bag nicely. Jort Kelder once called a well-known criminal lawyer a 'mafia buddy'. I wonder how you could call Koppe. Don't think there are words for that yet.
Comrade Duch died at the age of 77 in a hospital in Phnom Phen and was in charge of the Tuol Sleng prison, also known as S21, during the reign of terror of the Khmer Rouge.
Read the reference below to the stories about this terrible prison again.
Under the leadership of Comrade Duch, the most horrific tortures took place there and an estimated 15 people were killed in this former school. Unfortunately, the leader was not arrested until 1999. Until then he lived in a small village near the Thai border.
In 2010, Kaing Guek Eav was sentenced to life imprisonment by the tribunal for torture and crimes against humanity. Apparently Comrade Duch was not in a good mood with his former boss Nuon Chea because during his trial he said that when the Vietnamese had invaded Cambodia to put things in order he was ordered by him to kill all the prisoners.
After forty years, one of the convicted leaders of the reign of terror is still alive, namely Khieu Samphan, the head of state of the barbaric regime of the Khmer Rouge.
It might be good to mention that GroenLinks party boss Paul Rosenmöller is a supporter of the Khmer Rouge and has never distanced himself from it. It does indicate what kind of cut-up figures are walking around there.
From 1976 to 1982, Rosenmöller was a member of the Maoist Group Marxist-Leninists/Red Morning (GML). Between 1981 and 1982, Rosenmöller was also a board member of the GML. The GML strove for a communist state in the Netherlands and sympathized with various communist regimes abroad, such as that of China, Albania and that of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. More than 20 years later, HP/De Tijd and Villamedia, among others, criticized Rosenmöller for his communist past. In particular, the GML's readiness for violence was highlighted, as well as the sympathy that was openly professed with communist dictatorships that were now notorious for their human rights violations. (Source: Wikipedia)
“Does indicate what kind of twisted characters are walking around there” I don't think you can extend the past of one person to the members of a party as a whole. On that bike there are 'cut up figures' in all political parties. Should we therefore also judge / condemn the VVD and CDA on their formal support for a murder regime (?).
“In 1982 that policy changed. The first Lubbers cabinet with Hans van den Broek on Foreign Affairs (both CDA) and Eegje Schoo (VVD) on Development Cooperation recognized the Khmer Rouge-led guerrilla movement as the legitimate representative of the Cambodian people. Vietnam was branded an aggressor and Heng Samrin a puppet.”
Source:
https://joop.bnnvara.nl/opinies/stelletje-zeikerds-heb-het-ook-eens-over-de-steun-van-lubbers-aan-pol-pot
Well, mister Rosenmöller is a multimillionaire, something about the Brenninkmeijer family. Paultje also had a house in the South of France where he flew to by plane. Still a bit strange for a GroenLinks party bon. Comrade Jesse Klaver lived in an uninsulated house and had a wood stove in the room. It is just like with all comrades in the former Eastern Bloc, Cambodia, Cuba, etc. Oppressing the people and living in luxury yourself. The ultimate communist idea.
Aren't you changing the subject now? From the gruesome Khmer Rouge to whether or not to distance themselves from this (Did Paul do that, I don't know if the VVD and CDA gentlemen did the same). Or are we going to raise a tree about hypocritical politicians?
Incidentally, the ultimate communist idea is 'introduce democracy everywhere': on all workplaces (so that everyone has a say in what should be done with profits, instead of just the management) and all countries. Doesn't really work in practice because asking nicely if those in power would please step down and introduce a democratic system doesn't really work... Plus the hypocritical people walking around. Marx would turn in his grave at what twisted figures in the Khmer Rouge, for example, have done.
Communism (everyone is equal) is unnatural and therefore it can only be maintained through repression. There is also only a very small group that embraces communism, which is why these kinds of regimes also have to rely on oppression, murder and torture. Fascism and communism go hand in hand. Just look at history.
The starting point of communism is that everyone should get the same start (opportunities). So: everyone has an equal say within a community, everyone has equal opportunities for education, etc. It is not about equality in terms of end result. For example, according to the communist view, a higher wage can easily be paid for someone who contributes more to the labor process.
Fascism is the opposite of that, they think that some people naturally deserve a privileged position. They are therefore not very fond of participation, democracy and so on.
The practice of what is called communism is the ultimate capitalism.
All property and power in the hands of a small group of people.
Something the whole world is moving towards.
There will also be cut-up figures at other parties, but just a little more at GroenLinks. The RaRa terrorists who set the Makros on fire and planted a bomb in the house of the Minister of Justice Aad Kosto were welcomed with open arms at GroenLinks or are even still active there, such as Wijnand Duyvendak. It is a narrow party with supporters of mass murderers and former terrorists in its ranks. I'd walk around it. https://www.geenstijl.nl/1385101/wie_duyvendak_eigenlijk_follow/
And if you do a good search on the internet, you will also come across some connections between the murderer Volkert van der G. and the environmental activists of GroenLinks.
Incidentally, Paul Rosenmöller has renounced several times, but has never expressed regret:
A quote from Trouw regarding an interview between Paul Rosenmöller and Andries Knevel:
“Calling that a sin of youth and distance yourself from it was not enough, Knevel demanded regret and shoved some embers to Rosenmöller's eyes.
He remained steadfast: he was ideologically wrong at the time, but he had no regrets. At least not from his own actions, working in the port of Rotterdam and leading wildcat strikes. How much has been killed in the name of Christianity and how much regret do you have to express that, he moaned.(…) While Rosenmöller explained once again how often he had distanced himself from his Marxist-Leninist-Maoist past, he looked for the pliers to pull out nails.”
Source: https://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/het-verhoor~bf6b4d3f/
Indeed, Rosenmöller is also a crook, but moreover a sneak of the purest water. Acting interesting on TV, but expressing no regrets for his sympathies with wrong regimes and his share in the R'dam harbor strike at the time.
Apart from the V&D millions, Paultje also has a nice income from his board position of the VO Council (Association of schools in secondary education) and the Senate membership for Groen Links (blood group communists).
So you see, made a mistake after the war and still a finger in the pie with education and national administration.
Yes, by the way it is not V&D but C&A.
Shall we talk about Thailand, dear Peter. Thailand has also always, almost to the bitter end, supported the Khmer Rouge. This mainly emanated from the Thai armed forces protecting the Khmer Rouge leaders in their shelter on the Thai-Cambodian border. The Thai generals also benefited from this with illegal trade in precious stones and wood.
It was not until the late XNUMXs and early XNUMXs that the civilian government was able to contain the armed forces.
See for example an article in the NYT: Thailand bears guilt for Khmer Rouge
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/24/opinion/l-thailand-bears-guilt-for-khmer-rouge-934393.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/19/world/pol-pot-thai-connection-special-report-big-threat-cambodia-thais-still-aid-khmer.html
and: Pol Pot's best friend: Thailand.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/05/29/pol-pots-best-pal-thailand/ab3c52a0-5e4c-416c-991c-704d1fe816d6/
You must be very angry with Thailand right now, don't you? They also never apologized.
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/pol/polpotmontclarion0498.html
Who bears a much greater blame for the genocide in Cambodia was the US, Pol Pot's greatest friend, as described in detail in the link above.
The ny.times should therefore not divert attention to Thailand as the main culprit.
Just search with “PvdA new left as a supporter of Cuba and GDR” and you will find much more.
Walked around the killing fields myself several times, where pieces of bone and clothing material of murdered people emerge above the ground after a rain shower. The tree against which children were beaten to death with their skulls. The school, converted into prison S-21 Tuol Sleng. Too gruesome for words.
And this Dutch parlor socialist without compassion still in the old boys network.
Absolutely no respect for this man, on the contrary. The healer is just as bad as the stealer.
Every (alleged) criminal, including Nuon Chea, is entitled to a good lawyer.
The old Moskowicz (a Jew) once said that he would defend the suspect of war crimes Menten if he asked. A lawyer defending a criminal is just doing his job and must do it well.
Nothing wrong with what you say Chris.
Menten had first tried Max Moszkowicz, the well-known criminal lawyer in Maastricht, but had received no response. That story was once again confirmed in Het Parool of August 30th by Abraham Moszkowicz, Max's son and colleague: 'Menten wanted my father as a lawyer. He must have thought it would be to his advantage if he had himself defended by a Jew, I think. My father said no. I myself would never defend a war criminal who killed part of my family, or at least was part of the machinery responsible for it.'
Source: https://www.groene.nl/artikel/scrupules
With apologies but with some nuance:
At the time, your father refused to defend war criminal Pieter Menten.
"Yes. Colleague Gerard Spong then defended him. I didn't blame him. Conversely, he blamed me for defending Bouterse, but I didn't think that was right. My father always added that Menten was also entitled to a defence. I fully endorse that. Everyone has that right.”
Now back to the article by Joseph Jongen:
I understand the emotion, but if you don't give a suspect legal assistance in a fair trial, we slide into lawlessness.
As we saw with the girlfriend of that …, who was thrown into jail indefinitely last October on vague allegations without trial and was recently readmitted.
Poor Paultje is taken down again in the comments and he has already had to pay so much. His ambition to become the King's Commissioner has already fallen through his nose. But what about that other villain: Victor Koppe. Just read my previously published story: “The Khmer Rouge and chills” about this pickpocket. The editors have already made it easy for you and just press: Read more … And if you want to know more, press the button next to Yuundai's story, who describes the horrors of the S21 prison. Not pleasant stories, but apparently there are people who want to defend mass murderers to line their own pockets. Get the chills from people like this.
Again: I understand the emotion.
But if we don't want to give a suspect a fair trial with a defense that does its utmost to defend the interests of his client, we can dump the rule of law with the bulky waste.
Unfortunately, I see examples in Thailand, among others, that the judiciary there is not independent and impartial. Not to mention "He Who Must Not Be Named," who is practically above the law and therefore acts as he sees fit.
Yep,
That Victor Koppe has also been on my list of characters who will do anything for money for several years.
Entire amounts of (Japanese) money from the Cambodia tribunal have gone the wrong way.
He had been removed from the bar in Cambodia because he had not been registered as a lawyer in the Netherlands for some time.