The World Business Class of the Boeing 747-400 has already been converted. Now the Boeing 777-200 fleet of KLM turn for a complete metamorphosis. In addition to the interior of the World Business Class, designer Hella Jongerius has now also designed the Economy Class.
The new Economy Class seats offer travelers more legroom and an extensive new inflight entertainment system that includes larger 9-inch touchscreens in HD quality, interactive 3D maps and the option to communicate via 'seat chat' with fellow travelers who are not nearby. to sit.
The conversion of the 15 Boeing 777-200 will be completed at the end of 2015. This will be followed by the Boeings 777-300, among others. In addition, two new 2015-777s with a new interior and in-flight entertainment system will be added to the KLM fleet in 300. The total 777 fleet then consists of 25 aircraft.
More legroom in Economy Class
Thanks to the smart design of the new Economy Class seats, extra legroom is created, which ensures more comfort. And there's more, the ergonomically optimized headrest offers improved neck support. Specially designed cushions, durable high-density materials and a power socket give the passenger peace of mind and control. And last but not least, the inflight entertainment system gives access to more than 150 movies and 200 TV programs in many languages, including a large number of local movies.
Another major improvement is that the new seats are the lightest in their class. Less weight means fuel savings, which in turn leads to lower CO2 emissions.
The introduction of the new inflight entertainment system in both Business and Economy Class offers enough distraction for a trip around the world and beyond! Together with travel companions, with fellow passengers you just met or just alone.
Luxurious personal space in World Business Class
At the same time as the introduction of the new Economy Class, KLM is introducing the new World Business Class on the Boeing 777. Naturally, this offers the same high standard as the World Business Class that was introduced in the B747 fleet last year. Central to this is the new full-flat chair.
The positioning of the new seats in the cabin and various smart design choices ensure maximum privacy while sleeping or working. The warm colors – which differ per seat – and the ample storage space, among other things, ensure ultimate comfort and more personal space for the passenger. Together with the larger soft cushions and luxurious new blankets, this gives the new Business Class a warm and friendly atmosphere.
The personal 16 inch screen, which is operated with a touchscreen handset, completes the luxurious Business Class experience. In addition, a dual screen experience is offered because the passenger can play and chat at the same time while watching a movie.
Well, more legroom – but KLM also uses this operation to 'upgrade' this older 777-200 series from 9 seats in width (3-3-3) to 10 (3-4-3), the configuration that this airline uses. already used in the 777-300. This means that the width of seats and aisles is 'planed'…………..
It is therefore a fact that the current KLM inflight entertainment is really a dragon of a system. Reaction time of a turtle to the Valium. The image has the sharpness of a blind falcon. And if you press stop after being in a movie for 50 minutes, you can restart the whole movie and fast-forward 10 minutes first to continue your movie! Haha just too serious in 2014. If it were EasyJet now, à la.
Nevertheless, I still enjoy traveling with KLM. In general, they get a pass from me. And I do enjoy watching the movie on board. But KLM inflight entertainment gets an unsatisfactory from me. It is incomprehensible that KLM ever accepted this half product during delivery. Perhaps AirFrance had just had another pilot strike.
Fortunately, more and more airlines are paying attention to the comfort of economy passengers.
On a short flight in Europe or, for example, with AirAsia, it doesn't really matter to me, but the hell that used to be a long flight to BKK is fortunately behind us. Happy that even more comfort is coming our way.
If 'an eye for comfort' results in the addition of chairs, I would rather they didn't have that eye…………
The money must come from the length or the width.
More legroom, a better place to lie down, a socket, all pluses for me.
Comfort and KLM is a thing of the past.
I experience the seats as higher, which makes it seem as if you have more space, but that is an illusion.
The seating position is far from ideal and the seats are narrower than those of Eva and China Air.
Moreover, the seats are rock hard at least that's how I experience it.
Never again KLM for me.
By default you will be placed in a middle seat if you want to change you have to pay extra.
They keep bumping into you through the narrow aisles.
Not quite right, if I just check in online myself I can just choose a window or aisle seat.
A touchscreen in the seat is a disaster. If you don't have knees in your back from the passenger behind you, then he is pushing against the screen with his fingers.
Give me that old-fashioned remote control.
There is no mention of the width of the chair anywhere. Not at Thailand blog, nor at KLM itself. Airbus specifies that their "standard" seat is 18 inches wide, but airlines have the final say. Boeing has 17,2 inches as “standard”. So it will very well be possible to put 3-4-3 in a Boeing 777-200 and tell everyone that new lightweight seats are coming in, with a great flat screen and secretly add a seat widthwise.
Too bad for KLM, there is internet and its passengers know sooner than they think there in Amstelveen.
I don't think this is cheating readers, but simply cheating your customers.
Greetings Nico
Nico, on Thailand blog there is indeed talk about it. see the first response to this article. It has also been discussed on other occasions that some airlines place a seat more widthwise in the 777, for example, in addition to KLM, Emirates also does this. It is the airlines that make this choice - at the expense of the comfort of their customers - because the Boeing standard for the 777 when this model was released was 9 seats in width, in economy.
Incidentally, you also see this phenomenon in Business: where, for example, Singapore Airlines uses 777-1-2 in some of the 1s, Emirates uses 2-3-2. British Airways even makes it 2-4-2, with one sitting backwards every other seat so that the occupant sits with his back to the direction of flight and his neighbor is looking in the face.
For many people, the lack of space is not in the length, but in the width. 10 seats in a row is not progress, but a regression.
It will therefore take a few years before the fleet is brought to an already outdated level.
And while at Thai Airways, for example, I always have the feeling that they are happy that I want to fly with them, at KLM I always get the idea that I should be happy that I can fly with them.
fransamsterdam i also have that idea, flew back from bangkok last week, got that idea again from a klm lady.
The next step is that fat people have to book double seats.
Just returned from Bangkok with Qatar Airways, maybe an idea for those KLM inventors to make a flight with Qatar!!!
Both the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and the 777.300 flew both configuration 3-3-3 with a lot of legroom extremely friendly staff especially for the night a "bag" with socks, earplugs and a mask for your eyes!
And this for the price of € 596.00 Brussels-Doha-Bangkok vv with a stopover of 1.40hXNUMX in Doha.
Ps forgot the following:
When booking on the Qatar site, choose and confirm your seat yourself and that WITHOUT extra costs!!
I will definitely give Qatar a try.
That is also possible with KLM, right when you book.
You only have to pay if you want to book economy comfort or seats with extra legroom (exit seats). All other economy seats are at your disposal.
That is not so special, KLM and several other airlines can also do this at no extra cost.
Well, they can put it back in their pocket, keep flying with China or Eva, leave that blue thing on the ground.
Annoying are the boxes on the floor under some seats for the inflight system. Hope they know a solution for that.
When it comes to the same type of "improvement" that Lufthansa has already implemented, they better leave it alone.
Since the construction is thinner, a hard plastic shell is needed at the back.
Those rock-hard plastic backs of those chairs clamp your knees painfully when the back of the chair in front of you goes back.
Since those seats are also lower, you can no longer put your legs under the seat in front of you and you will be pressed against that hard plastic with your knees throughout the journey.
Today large pieces in the Dutch press about Schiphol and KLM. Things have to change in order to maintain employment for the BV in the Netherlands. You read in between the thwarting of Turkish and Eastern airlines. I would like it if KLM managed to get Dutch travelers back into their aircraft themselves. How? Listening carefully to people who now fly other airlines is, I think, a first step.
Well, of course everyone has their own interests and there is a bit of give and take. I (78kg) would not object if the traveler's weight were to determine the price. But that would be unfair to people who have no influence on their weight. Otherwise, it would be unfair if KLM started charging for 2 or 3 kg of extra baggage (fortunately not yet).
Less than a week ago I flew to BKK again with KLM. That was indeed a disaster, while it was still so great 4 years ago. But after the inflight of Cathy, Finnair and China, were nothing to write home about either.
What surprised and certainly disturbed me was that at the start, the safety rules were only explained in French. Perhaps that can be adjusted yourself, but once you are in the air, the attention to safety evaporates and the crew has something else to do (drink, snack) than to explain to the traveler how to do that.
We passengers want to travel cheaply, but let's not forget that every airline has to make a profit to survive, especially KLM, which is still doing reasonably well with the ballast of Air France around its neck!!!!!!! ! Maybe KLM should have taken a partner from the Middle East, then they wouldn't have such financial worries………but do we want that?
Haki's comments touched my heart. Totally agree. Incidentally, KLM did not choose Air France as a partner, but Air France took over KLM.
In response to reactions elsewhere on the internet, I have put the seat layout of the current KLM 777-200 and the newly announced new layout side by side.
Then it turns out that the new business class takes up considerably more space than the old one, so that the first row of the other seats (economy comfort and economy), now 10 per row, has moved further back. Because it concerns the same number of rows - rows 10 to 44 - it can only be that they are closer together and the announced extra legroom is therefore taken from the thickness of the seats and, probably, also the seating position. Here the 'seat-plans', note the position of row 10 in relation to the leading edge of the wing.
New format: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KLM/KLM_Boeing_777-200.php
Old format: http://www.klm.com/travel/gb_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board/seating_plans/777-200ER.htm
Correction: I mixed up the links. The KLM link therefore shows the now proposed new layout, while Seatguru shows the configuration used so far.
Your conclusion is incorrect, because row 27, row 28 and row 30 are missing in the new interior.
The seat pitch is also specified as 31 inches in both devices.
Most of the pain is therefore in the narrower seats, so that you are even closer to your neighbor.
Especially if it is built a bit wider.
And especially if you have such a broadly built person on both sides.
Moderator: please don't chat.
On the basis of the old and new classifications I arrive at the following result.
– In both layouts, the total number of seats is the same, 318.
– The number of World Business Class seats has been reduced by 1 seat from 35 to 34.
– The number of Economy (Comfort) Class seats has been increased by 1 seat from 283 to 284.
– The total space of World Business Class has been extended to the front of the wings at the expense of space for the Economy (Comfort) zone.
– The Economy (Comfort) Class therefore has to make do with less space. Row 10 is therefore moved back 2 rows.
– The seating space (inside) of the seats in Economy (Comfort) Class has remained the same, 31/35 inch (in width). The intermediate paths will also hardly be able to be narrower because the catering will then no longer be able to pass through them with their carts.
It follows that the difference is found in the armrests (narrower), thinner backrests and the shape/position of the seats. The result will therefore be that the room to move and thus the comfort will decrease.
That is exactly how I experienced it on my flight BKK AMSTERDAM last July
That is why never KLM again, like a herring in a barrel with rock-hard seats.
The KLM top thinks that we as customers are stupid, from the blue swan to a gray mouse.