Thailand visa application No. 056/20: Non-immigrant O – Financial proof Embassy The Hague
Questioner: Rob
Tuesday 12-03-2020 I visited the Thai embassy to apply for a Non Immigrant O-Multiple Entry. I am leaving for Thailand on Saturday March 28 for almost 3 months. Since April 1, 2019 I have left my employer where I worked for 21 years. I am a secondary school teacher and have just turned 62 years old.
Since December 02, 2018 I have been officially 100% rejected due to brain damage in the speech center of the brain due to a cerebral infarction and I receive an IVA benefit. The last employer's statement from the high school where I worked shows that the employment has been terminated due to "retirement". In addition to the IVA benefit, I also receive an ABP disability pension and a disability benefit from Loyalis.
All this income can be seen in my bank account and in my opinion amply meets the required income requirement (the TH. embassy says about this type of visa Evidence of Adequate finance”). I made a printout of the last 3 months and highlighted the entries in yellow. In addition to the copies of the bank statements, I have submitted the other documents/requirements, namely the employer's statement stating that he is retired as of April 1, 2019, visa application form, valid passport, recent passport photo (3.5 x 4.5 cm) and ticket with proof of payment. Perhaps the person reviewing the application will be confused, because he/she sees clear proof of retirement on the employer's statement but sees income provided by the UWV on the bank statements.
I have become somewhat unsure whether I will get the visa now. Also because I read the following on the Visaservice.nl website: “It is also possible for travelers who have been declared incapacitated for work and who receive WIA benefits, so you must be able to prove it by means of a WIA bank deposit. Travelers with UWV benefits must have an English-language statement from the UWV, in which the UWV declares that it agrees with the trip”.
I only know that if you receive a WIA, in my case an IVA, you must notify the UWV if you go on holiday outside Europe for longer than 4 weeks. You must then provide a brief explanation on that change form. However, I have never heard of an English permission issued by the UWV and that is not stated in the change form on their website!
After this long introduction, my question is whether there are people among readers of Thailand blog who asked the Thai embassy for permission / further explanation issued by the UWV in English or whether questions were asked about the UWV payment on your bank account and you above are over 50 and out of work for any reason? Of course only if these persons also applied for a Non-Immigrant O visa multiple entry or single entry.
If I don't get the visa, I may still have time to hand in any documents/statements to the Thai embassy in The Hague and thus get it.
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If the person has accepted your application, then I assume that sufficient proof has been provided that you are retired and that you have shown sufficient income. Whether you have to provide proof in English from the UWV that you are allowed to leave the Netherlands for more than 4 weeks, I don't know.
However, what I do not understand is that you are at the embassy, standing in front of the person who receives the forms and then you do not ask that question. Who better to answer your questions? But maybe there are readers who are / were in the same situation and can provide you with more information here?
And otherwise Essen (Germany) might be a solution. A bit further away, but you have the visa the same day. What I hear and read is that the application process is simpler there. Limited to a Non-immigrant O Single entry, but that seems more than enough given your travel planning.
Let us know how it ended up.
Regards,
RonnyLatYa
Is there a reason you want a non-O?
You can also take a single entry tourist visa for 3 months. This gives you 60 days and can be extended by 30 days in Thailand.
A SETV is easy to get.
I hear that more.
But I think they don't give you a visa because you have to show your ticket. And that is not correct.
I'm not 100% sure if they will accept the ticket. Maybe if you include a note stating that you want to renew. Someone else may have experience with this.
I'll take a changeable ticket myself. Book with 2 months, and when you get there change date. But don't think this is really necessary.
Embassy also indicates on website that you can extend.
I read here that it is possible to extend a SETV Visa for 30 days, is that right? if you are married to a Thai, that you can also extend this Visa by 60 days.? if this is not possible with this Visa, is there any other Visa I could use for a stay of 120 days in Thailand.? Dec, Jan, Feb and March. During the winter period. Outside the possibility of Non Immigrant O Single or Multi, without Year Renewal or Border run.PLEASE. Thanks in advance. [email protected]
I thought that this must have been known for a long time now that you can extend a stay of 60 days with a Tourist visa (whether this is with a SETV or a METV does not matter) by 30 days. This also applies to a period of stay obtained on the basis of “Visa Exemption”.
For those who are married to a Thai or have a Thai child, there is the possibility to extend your stay by 60 days.
NB. The official reason is to visit your wife or Thai child. This means that your wife/child actually has to live in Thailand.
2.24 In the case of visiting a spouse or children who are of Thai nationality:
Permission shall be granted for one time and no more than 60 days.
(1) There must be proof of relationship.
(2) In the case of spouse, the relationship must be de jure and de facto.
1. Application form
2. Copy of applicant's passport
3. Copy of household registration certificate
4. Copy of national ID card of the person having Thai nationality
5. Copy of a marriage certificate or copy of a birth certificate
All can be read in subsequent documents.
– Order of Immigration Bureau No. 138/2557 Subject: Supporting documents for Consideration of an Alien's Application for a Temporary Stay in the Kingdom of Thailand
– Order of the immigration bureau No. 327/2557 Subject: Criteria and Conditions for Consideration of an Alien's Application for a Temporary Stay in the Kingdom of Thailand
Also applies outside the winter period (Dec, Jan, Feb and March) 😉
Dear Ronny, Thank you for the info, I wasn't sure I could get a tourist visa with 60 days if married to a Thai. In the future, I want to stay with my family twice for 2 days per 120 months. With a Non Immigrant O Single Entry it is not possible to obtain an extension, if I am not mistaken.? By extending the year, it is always a whole hassle if married to a Thai, to submit all forms and bank evidence. That's why I find this way easier. Enter with a single tourist visa and extend for 12 days. One more question, from how many days, before the expiration of the Tourist Visa, can I have it extended, please. Thanks in advance.
It is better to apply for an extension if you are retired. Have been able to share this knowledge and experience from several people here in Uttaradit.
If married you have to drag everything along such as witnesses, photos, control of living together, etc.
I always spend 8 months minus 1 week in Thailand. Always at least 4 full months in the Netherlands.
Get a 3 months visa when retired in Esen. I will extend this through 2 times 60 days and 1 time to Laos. for the last month.
You can normally also extend a Non-immigrant O by 60 days if you are married.
The regulations do not state anywhere that you must have a tourist or non-immigrant status. It can only be done once.
In principle, you can request this 30 days in advance.
I mean, of course, your period of residence obtained with a Non-immigrant O.
If you go for less than 3 months you are even cheaper with a single entry tourist.
Also much easier to get. However, leaving for Thailand at the end of this month could become a major problem due to the corona problem. It really does get a little harder every day.
I assume your extension is free then... since you say it's cheaper.
In October 2014 I applied for and received a Non-O Multiple Entry at the embassy in The Hague.
Then I was 58, 80-100% incapacitated for work, benefits from the UWV.
As far as I remember I handed them over at the time:
– Completed application form (under “Occupation” enter Retired).
- Passport photograph.
- My passport.
– Printout of my bank statements and statements of the last 3 months (with a large balance).
– Printout of the booking confirmation of my return ticket (6 months between departure and return).
– €150 visa fee.
In November 2018 I applied for and received a Non-O Single Entry at the embassy in The Hague.
Then I was 62, 80-100% incapacitated for work, benefits from the UWV.
Handed in:
– Completed application form (under “Occupation” enter Retired).
- Passport photograph.
- My passport.
– Printout of my bank statements and statements of the last 3 months (with a large balance).
– Printout of the booking confirmation of my return ticket (4 months between departure and return).
– €60 visa fee.
When I returned my passport with visa, I was asked what I was going to do after 3 months. She was satisfied with my answer that I was going to request an “extension of stay”.
I cannot remember that I have issued a copy of the decision regarding my work (dis)ability. At least no translation into English.
You must indeed request permission from the UWV 2 weeks in advance if you want to go abroad for more than 4 weeks. The Thai embassy has nothing to do with that and did not ask for it.
Dear Disabled,
Thank you for your clear point-by-point summary of the documents/forms you submitted. That takes away the anxiety. I suspect that I will now get the requested visa. I'm going to pick up my passport at the embassy in The Hague next Tuesday.
Yours faithfully,
Rob