Thailand Visa Question No. 164/20: Requirements Non-Immigrant OA
Questioner: Sjoerd
Medical statement concerning leprosy, tuberculosis, drug addiction, elephantiasis, third stage of syphilis.
Before applying for a visa OA, on my still valid visa O I cannot enter Thailand yet, the Thai embassy requires me to submit a medical certificate that I do not have the following: leprosy, tuberculosis, drug addiction, elephantiasis, third stage of syphilis.
I asked a GP, KLM Health Service, GGD, Tropencentrum AMC and a few more. Nowhere can I go for a medical certificate for all 5.
- I can go to the GGD for an X-Ray with regard to TBC.
- I can go to LUMC in Leiden for leprosy.
- I can go to a lab in Utrecht for a drug screening of the blood
- People don't know what to do with elephantiasis, but according to the information from the internet, it is something you can see directly on the skin.
- Syphilis did not do the lab in Utrecht either.
On the internet I found that a Brit went to a clinic in London, blood pressure was measured, asked a few questions and 20 minutes later he was outside with the statement, cost 50 pounds.
Where in NL can I get this last solution?
The Thai embassy also requests a validation of 4 documents by a notary.
Has anyone had experience with that? Cost?
Reaction RonnyLatYa
I can't help you further with this. As a Belgian, I have no idea where you could go in the Netherlands to obtain that medical certificate in one place. Also with regard to notary and the associated costs.
I leave this to your compatriots and they may want to share their experience.
Perhaps it is possible to obtain such a health certificate through your GP.
On office stationery. With many stamps on it. Worth trying.
Documents can be authenticated/validated by notary, ministry or court.
In the past I regularly had the court in Amsterdam put a so-called Apostille on the originals of translated documents. At that time it cost about 20 Euro per document.
Thailand cannot be found in the list of countries that participate in the Apostille treaty, can it?
Countries that participate in the Apostille Convention
https://www.nederlandwereldwijd.nl/wonen-werken/legalisatie-van-nederlandse-documenten/overzicht-apostillelanden
Yes, you are right. That was not about Thailand at the time.
In that case, I don't know how it works with countries that do not participate in the Apostille Convention.
Probably through various ministries or a notary
Hello Sjoerd,
Medical Certificate for leprosy, tuberculosis, etc., I received this form from the Thai Embassy at the time (2016) when applying for my OA visa, this form was in English and Thai, I simply went to my doctor and he got it without problems completed, with the stamp of her practice and BIC register number, this must be legalized by the Ministry of Health with a stamp, if your GP does not do this, just try another one, good luck,
Jan
I always find it a pity that embassies demand certain forms, but then do not put them on the website so that the applicant can download them.
Fortunately, there are those who do. 😉
https://thaiconsulatela.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Medical-Certificate-Form-For-Non-Immigrant-O-A-Long-Stay-Only.pdf
I completely agree with you RonnyLatYa. But even a form that can be downloaded from the website does not offer you the certainty that it will be accepted. Downloaded and completed the application a few years ago for a visa application with a stay of 60 days. Was not accepted at the embassy in The Hague and I was given a new questionnaire at the counter. Completed on the spot, the questions were exactly the same only the layout differed slightly.
I think it goes without saying that when forms or information are placed on their website, they must also be usable.
As a user you must be able to fully rely on the information that official bodies place on their website. After all, as a user you cannot know whether something is still current or not, complete or not, etc...
Making a website is not so much the problem. Keeping him updated with up-to-date and complete information is usually another matter.
You can expect the necessary energy to be put into this, especially from official bodies.
I think many have the personal experience that this is not always the case.
The information is unclear, incomplete, open to interpretation, old or new information is added but the old one is left in place, etc... I think everyone has encountered it before. The result is that what is submitted is wrong or incomplete, or one suddenly comes up with additional or completely different requirements, with the result that one has to come again, this causes an abundance of emails and telephones with always the same questions for additional information or more explanation. about something, etc…
To give an example. The Non-immigrant O application states “Evidence of adequate finance”. And that's what you have to do as an applicant. It is not unusual that new applicants in particular ask themselves how much that is.
I think this is a shame, because a correctly maintained and clear website is a huge profit for all parties.
Hello Sjoerd,
reply to my previous message, please send me your email address, so I can send you the Medical certificate, which I received at the time, my email is [email protected]
Jan
Hi John, Kindly, but I already have that form, thank you!
I've already tried a doctor, but no success. I have been living in Thailand for 10 years with an O visa (I am now in NL and can only return with OA); so the doctor doesn't 'know' me very well anymore.
“The Thai embassy also requests a validation of 4 documents by a notary”
But, isn't it true that a notary normally only legalizes a signature and cannot confirm the authenticity of a document?
MVG
Willem
Maybe… but Thai embassy asks for it: https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/page/76475-non-immigrant-visa-o-a-(long-stay)
Hello Sjoerd,
At the time I had the documents legalized at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, this was accepted,
Jan
Hi John, So in The Hague… and how much did that cost?
Hello Sjoerd,
the cost for this as far as I know € 10 per document, maybe it's a bit more now,
Jan
For medical certificates, you must first legalize it at the CIBG register organization and then legalize it at the Consular Services Center (CDC) in The Hague.
see the link:
https://www.nederlandwereldwijd.nl/wonen-werken/legalisatie-van-nederlandse-documenten/medische-verklaringen-gebruiken-in-het-buitenland
Hi,
I get an English letter from the doctor.
I will have this legalized at the BIG register (free)
Then legalize it at the Ministry, etc.
Regards, Josh.
The big problem with the Non-Immigrant OA, in my opinion, is the extension after one year, which is only possible at the Immigration Service in Thailand.
I can't go back through no fault of my own, the Thai authorities won't let me in because of corona, so my (expensive) OA visa will expire soon.
Acquisition is possible through the embassy, but it is not possible to extend it, despite valid and paid health insurance.
Dirk, holders of OA visa can now enter Thailand again !!! See here:
https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/content/118896-measures-to-control-the-spread-of-covid-19?page=5f4d1bea74187b0491379162&menu=5f4cc50a4f523722e8027442
Cheers too soon, because that only applies to those who travel from a safe area and as long as the Netherlands and Belgium turn Corona red, you will not receive a Certificate of Entry from the embassy, even if you have a non-immigrant OA visa and the other necessary documents.
But if people have different experiences and still get access, I'd like to hear about it, because I'm also 'on hold'.
I haven't read that anywhere, that OA holders don't get a COE.
It does indeed apply to the new STV visa, but the Thai embassy informed me more than a week ago that I could submit an application for an OA and COE visa.
Hi Nick,
I asked the Thai embassy yesterday. Even if the Netherlands is a high-risk area (red), but you meet all the requirements to obtain the Certificate of Entry (including the Non OA visa), you will also receive it and you may travel to Thailand. Even though the Netherlands is colored red.
Regards,
Rob
Ron, exactly!
Do you have any idea how long it takes to get OA and COE and then fly?
Thanks Rob, that's good news.
Thank you for your expert answer.
By the way, do you know whether you can book a flight yourself, for example with Etihad, or whether it has to be done through the Thai Embassy?
Beats. That is very annoying. I can't go back to Thailand and also renew my NON O retirement visa there and I have a rental contract with monthly payments and my belongings in my apartment in Thailand. 🙁
Are there other NLers here who are working on OA? Does anyone have an idea how long it takes to get a COE (and possibly an OA visa)?
Dear Sjoerd,
I'm in the same boat. I applied for my first Non Immigrant O multiple entry at the beginning of March, got it in my passport. Unfortunately my flight was canceled by Swiss Air two days after I picked up my passport with the visa in it. So I've never even used it.
I am now applying for a Non OA. Is in the phase of requesting and arranging all documents. If I have that, then only apply for the CoE. I am in contact with the Thai Embassy in The Hague via the Messenger of their Facebook page. Always quick response and friendly.
I think it takes two weeks to get a CoE. Greenwood Travel in Bangkok also helps me with hotel reservations (without having to pay immediately) and a possible fake ticket while waiting to see if I get my Non OA. Very friendly employee of Greenwood Travel. A Belgian whose girlfriend is an employee at the Thai embassy in Brussels. He pointed out to me last week that a Non OA has recently granted access to Thailand.
What a hassle huh! My email is [email protected]
Yours faithfully,
Rob
I'm working on OX. Some of the requirements are the same as OA.
I am still in the phase of understanding what is requested by the embassy and how and where I can obtain it
This discussion arouses my interest, because I currently have a Non Imm O visa with an annual extension that is valid until December 29, 2020. I have been in NL since February and would have returned on October 1. However, my visa is no longer sufficient.
I read that you are now talking about the Non Imm OA visa .. and that you should be allowed to travel with it, if you meet all the conditions.
Can someone pass me the full list of requirements so that I can then start with the application. ?
I'm not very good at procedures and reading complicated text.
I do need a little help.
Thank you in advance
Groet
Ferdinand
The website Sjoerd mentioned above provides the list of documents required to apply for a Non Immigrant OA visa.
Thanks again Sjoerd!
Ferdinand, see here:
https://image.mfa.go.th/mfa/0/SRBviAC5gs/COVID19/1_11_non_Thai_nationals_who_are_permitted_to_enter_the_Kingdom_under_a_special_arrangement_(Non_OA_OX). Pdf
And here:
https://image.mfa.go.th/mfa/0/SRBviAC5gs/COVID19/1_11_non_Thai_nationals_who_are_permitted_to_enter_the_Kingdom_under_a_special_arrangement_(Non_OA_OX). Pdf
And here:
https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/page/76475-non-immigrant-visa-o-a-(long-stay)?menu=5d81cce815e39c2eb8004f12
You have to hand in everything at the same time, but for a visa you have to make an appointment…
You can apply for a VOG online at https://www.vog-aanvraag.nl/visum/ Is just as expensive as at city hall.
Request a birth register extract and BRP online from the municipality (note: the first one in the municipality where you were born).
So my GP does not want to issue a medical certificate, today I was told by LUMC that all research for leprosy and the other 4 cases can be done there. Cost about 225 euros.
Thank you very much for the info, I will study everything and hopefully I will be in Thailand at the end of this year.
The first two links don't work.. at the end of the lines it's missing I guess
That's right Ferdinand. If you look closely at the links in Sjoerd's response, you will see that '.pdf' is not underlined. For some reason, that didn't become part of the actual link.
In the address bar of your browser you must therefore complete the text with '.pdf' (without the accents).
Most likely Sjoerd knew about these links through our highly regarded visa advisor RonnyLatYa.
sjoerd,
would you be so kind as to post an announcement in thailandblog if it indeed succeeded at the LUMC. (Leiden University Medical Center).
I'm always a little careful. Sometimes people don't understand you exactly or sometimes it turns out when push comes to shove that things turn out differently! thanks john
Dear Ferdinand,
I'm afraid you're confusing two things here: the validity of the visa and the validity of the annual extension. If you have a year extension until December 29, 2020, as you write, you can use it until this date. You must then have a re-entrance. The re-entry usually runs until the end of the obtained stay period, so in your case until Dec 29, 2020. The date of the visa is the latest date on which you can use this visa to enter Thailand for the first time. It clearly says “enter before….” Once a year extension has been obtained, it is always “permission of stay until….”…. before the permission of stay date expires, you simply have to apply for a new year extension in Thailand. So you worry prematurely because there is almost there
3 months that you can use your current period of residence. As things stand now, it is very uncertain that you will be able to enter Thailand by then with a Non O and annual extension, but a lot can change in 3 months (TIT) and you never know. So just wait a bit before applying for a Non OA visa.
I understand, I wrote it down wrong because I have that Re-entry in my passport.. including the annual extension.
Furthermore, in the development of the virus and the vaccine, I expect that it will not be over for the time being and we will suffer from it for years to come .. only 10% of the world's population has been infected according to the WHO .. so in the worst case it can It will take years for the situation to return to “normal”.
That's why I'm looking for a method to be able to travel to Thailand anyway. My body tolerates the heat better than the cold, that's why I like to be away here (NL) in the winters.. (Oct-March)
In any case, thanks for thinking along and giving suggestions.
Hello Ferdinand,
These are the requirements listed on the website of the Thai embassy in The Hague:
Non-Immigrant Visa OA (long stay)
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Non-Immigrant Visa “OA” (Long Stay)
This type of visa may be issued to applicants aged 50 years and over who wish to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 1 year without the intention of working.
Holder of this type of visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year. Employment of any kind is strictly prohibited.
1.Eligibility
1.1 Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).
1.2 Applicant not prohibited from entering the Kingdom as provided by the Immigration Act BE 2522 (1979).
1.3 Having no criminal record in Thailand and the country of the applicant's nationality or residence
1.4 Having the nationality of or permanent residence in the country where application is submitted
1.5 Not having prohibitive diseases (Leprosy, Tuberculosis, drug addiction, Elephantiasis, third phase of Syphilis) as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No. 14 BE 2535
1.6 Having a health insurance covering the length of stay in Thailand with no less than 40,000 Baht coverage for outpatient treatment and no less than 400,000 Baht for inpatient treatment. Applicant may consider buying a Thai health insurance online at longstay.tgia.org.
1.7 Employment in Thailand is prohibited.
2.Required Documents
– Passport with validity of not less than 18 months
– 3 copies of completed visa application forms
– 3 passport-sized photos (3.5 x 4.5 cm) of the applicant taken within the past six months
– A personal data form
– Confirmed ticket paid in full
– A copy of bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht
– In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.
– An English Extract from the birth registration (verification shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarized by notary organs or the applicant's diplomatic or consular mission)
– An English Extract from the register of population (verification shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarized by notary organs or the applicant's diplomatic or consular mission)
– A letter of verification issued from the country of his or her nationality or residence stating that the applicant has no criminal record (verification shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarised by notary organs or the applicant's diplomatic or consular mission)
– A medical certificate issued from the country where the application is submitted, showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (BE 2535) (certificate shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarised by notary organs or the applicant's diplomatic or consular mission)
– An original health insurance policy which covers the length of stay in Thailand with no less than 40,000 Baht coverage for outpatient treatment and no less than 400,000 Baht for inpatient treatment. Applicant may consider buying a Thai health insurance online at longstay.tgia.org.
Consular officers reserve the rights to request additional documents as deemed necessary.
In the case where the accompanying spouse is not eligible to apply for the Category 'O-A' (Long Stay) visa, he or she will be considered for temporary stay under Category 'O' visa. A marriage certificate must be provided as evidence and should be notarized by notary organs or by the applicant's diplomatic or consular mission.
Regards,
Rob
Thank you very much Rob,
Know enough now.
Groet
Ferdinand