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Home » Thailand in general » Reader question: Certificate of income statement for emigration to Thailand
Dear readers,
Soon I want to emigrate to Thailand. I want to apply for an “OA” visa in the Netherlands.
I have approached the embassy via email about the income statement. They inform me that I need a fully certified salary statement in English and advise me to contact the organization that provides my income. These organizations are ABP and SVB.
However, on their websites I can't find anything about a monthly statement in English, let alone certification.
Does anyone have experience with this or a solution?
PS Searching Thailandblog I didn't find a similar question.
Yours faithfully,
Hans
Dear Hans,
I arranged everything again last week and immigration has allowed me to stay for another year. I don't know where you are staying but here in Pattaya it is easy to do.
You can simply print out your monthly benefit on your own ABP site and the SVB site. I assume that you have created and are using your own ABP/SVB site. With this/these document(s) (printed in colour) I went to the Austrian consul in Pattaya and he put together a letter in English with the relevant information. You pay 1680 bath for that. This document is used as an income statement certificate for your application for a retirement visa. I don't know how it is arranged nationally, apparently via the Dutch embassy in Bangkok, but then you would think that they could give you better advice.
I think Hans wants to apply for a visa at the Thai Embassy in NL and therefore has no advice on how things work in Pattaya.
Thanks for the information, if it doesn't work in the Netherlands I will apply for an “O” visa at the consulate in Amsterdam and try it in Bangkok.
Sorry Hans I hadn't read the question properly and I did the same, then at the time as what you propose to do now. For that 0 visa, you can suffice with the Dutch benefit overviews, but you probably know that. In Thailand you can suffice with Corretje's answer or my earlier message.
Probably an official translation by a certified translation agency will suffice?
But you don't have to be able to find everything on a website, you can often ask a question via email or telephone.
What you need is an income statement { annual statement 2015, I have other pensions or income, all of which add up for a single pensioner, you need 65.000 baths 9 I am only writing this for someone with a pension like me, send me Affidavit document to the Belgian embassy in Bangkok to pay 820 baths.
you must also have a doctor's certificate, 1 passport photo, I pay at the immigration service for 1 year O-inmmigration visa 1900 bath, report every three months (free) and enjoy the rest. WATCH OUT FOR THE BLACK MARKET IN THAT AREA OF REGULATING VISA'S.
greetings and strength
Sorry Corretje and Jacques, but in my opinion it is not about the income statement you need for the so-called retirement visa. I think the question was asked at the Thai embassy in Amsterdam and there you can get a visa if you receive about Euro 600 p month. So I think that the Thai embassy wants a statement in English about your income and Hans also applies for an OA visa because you can then obtain a retriement visa in Thailand later.
Dear people,
I have been living in Thailand for 15 years now with my Thai wife.
So I have a marriage visa because I am not yet 50 years young.
I have had my income statement with Mr. Rudolf Hofer (Austrian Consul in Pattaya) stamped.
But in December 2015 I went again with my wife and child, and all the necessary forms to the Immigration in soi 5 Jomtien.
We had number 1 , the lady at counter 6 starts working and we go there .
She starts flipping through our papers and then pulls out the form from Mr. R. Hofer out, and says to me, you are not an Austrian so you must go to the Dutch Embassy to have this form stamped.
Then I said, I've been doing this for 14 years, said then says new law, next customer.
So I drove full throttle to Bangkok with my wife and child, arrived there at 11:35 am, too late because the Embassy closes at 11:00 am, but I called the Embassy and explained my problem, the employee of our Embassy, nevertheless helped me, so that I could be back on time with the correct form at the Immigration in Jomtien.
I would like to thank this employee of the Embassy once again.
But I certainly don't have a word for the Immigration officer.
I call these people power hungry without brains, because without foreigners (Farangs) this lady was unemployed or rice masher in the Isan.
I have lived at the same address for 15 years, married under Thai law, have two children with my Thai wife, and have been taking care of my family here in Thailand for 15 years.
So I don't understand why these people at Immigration always give me a hard time with my year visa.
I hope this C……. people at immigration will be transferred quickly.
I wish everyone the best of luck in making their year visas.
Yours faithfully,
Josh from Pattaya.
Yes, that is another case of official arbitrariness. I extended my retirement visa last week and used the document from Mr Hofer for that. Apparently the law was amended again in 2016 and this is possible again. I'm really Dutch after all. Arrangements have been made with Mr Hofer and the Dutch embassy and immigration. I would definitely discuss this with Hofer if I were you. If this is no longer accepted, Hofer will lose a lot of money.
Hans DO NOT email the embassy!! Go there yourself with the requested papers and take the 2015 annual statement with you from both the ABP and the SVB.
When you email you make people think and then they think about the most difficult solution.
Dear Hans,
Last year in August I applied for a retirement visa OA at the Thai embassy in The Hague and finally received it after I had submitted the following documents:
1.Birth certificate translated into English
2.Medical certificate in English that I do not suffer from Leprosy, TB, Elephantiasis, drug addiction and 3rd stage syphilis; The doctor's signature must then be legalized by the Ministry of Health, after which this signature must then be legalized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
3.Income statements translated into English
4. Extract from the population register (basic registration); this can be obtained directly from the municipality in English
5. Statement on the conduct of the Ministry of Security and Justice; this is also directly available in English
All translations must be made by a sworn translator and then the translator's signature must be legalized by the Court of Justice. After this, these legalizations must be legalized again by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. And finally, all documents supplied will be legalized again by the Thai embassy. I think it is much easier to arrange in Thailand. But I finally succeeded at a considerable cost.
Good luck,
Peter
It is a pity that my reactions come later, because at the time I made them, the above reaction from Peter was not yet visible to me.
I have full respect for Peter's response. She is as she should be. Complete and correct.
My respect for this Peter, and don't feel offended by the comments I make below.
Anyway this comment.
That's how it is in The Hague.
(For Belgians))
Not so in Brussels with all those legalizations, but they also make it difficult for an OA there.
It is much easier to apply for a Non-immigrant “O” and then extend it in Thailand.
But the OA also has its advantages.
You can stay in Thailand for almost two years and you don't have to prove anything in Thailand.
Everyone has their own choice I guess.
Here we go again.
Please read what the question is. He applies for a Non-Immigrant “OA”.
This is a visa. Has nothing to do with the Embassy in Thailand.
I'm not going to answer it. Let all the experts do it now.
I'll tip
“They inform me that I need a fully certified salary statement in English and they advise me to contact the organization that provides my income.”
Then you should not search the website, but contact that organization.
They will then send you a “certified salary statement in English”…
Oops... now I've done it again
@ Peter
You indicate exactly what is needed, also according to the Thai embassy in The Hague.
Your comment about the costs has made me think, the total costs in the Netherlands are approximately 330 Euro, namely 26 Euro for municipal extracts, 30 Euro certificate of good conduct, 50 Euro for legalization by foreign affairs, 75 Euro for legalization by the Thai embassy and 150 Euro for the visa. If I do it via the “O” visa, it costs 140 Euro, 60 for the visa, 30 for the “income statement” and about 50 for the “Retirement Visa”. A difference of almost 200 Euro, excluding travel costs, which are considerably lower in Thailand.
@RonnyLatPhrao
The action you have proposed regarding the declaration of income is being processed by APB and SVB, but they apparently need time for that.
your comment that the procedure in Thailand is considerably simpler has also made me think. It is also considerably cheaper. I think I will abandon the “OA” procedure and apply for an “O” single entry visa.
Regarding the application for retirement visa, I have one more question:
I have been renting an apartment in Huay Kwang for 5 years in the name of my Thai girlfriend. the homeowner does not want to put the lease in my name. In the TB-2014-12-27-Dossier-Visa-Thailand-full version you write that I need proof of residence, for example a rental contract, with the application. Are other proofs than a rental contract possible (apart from moving)?
@ Thanks everyone for the comments.
Dear Hans,
As for your address. Just bring your girlfriend. She can prove that you live with her with her Tambien Job and/or rental contract in her name.
Proofs of payment for water and electricity are also often accepted .
There are more who live with the girlfriend and do not have a lease in their own name.
An OA is an expensive affair, especially in the Netherlands.
As a Dutch citizen, however, you can only apply for it in the Netherlands, or you had to officially live in Belgium.
I don't know exactly what things are like in Brussels (I never go there), but I also had an OA in the past. At that time it was still available at the Consulate in Antwerp.
Costs were negligible. All forms are available free of charge at City Hall.
Only a doctor's visit, but that was largely reimbursed. Don't legalize anything.
But apparently people are being difficult in other areas in Brussels. I guess it will always be something.
Anyway, there are people who choose the OA because they don't want to prove anything in Thailand and want to have everything arranged before they enter Thailand.
Everyone has their own choice and reason for applying for a certain visa.
In any case, the Non-Immigrant “O” is the cheapest from a financial perspective, less walking and much easier to obtain. Extending is not a problem in most cases in Thailand.
Success.