A thai woman on dating websites

By Chris de Boer
Posted in Organizations
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16 September 2017

For about 1,5 years I have been helping a friend of my wife find a suitable man through dating sites. And I thought it would be nice to tell her (my) experiences on this blog. Many times the experiences of Dutch and Belgian men are explained here. But how does a Thai woman experience all this?

Neth (because that's her name) is in her early forties but you wouldn't give her that. Most men estimate her ten years younger. She is not a model but looks – in my humble opinion – above average attractive. She looks a bit like the Thai volleyball star Nootsara, for those in the know.

She was married to a Thai man and has a son with him. She is now 15 years old and lives with her sister and husband in Isaan. Neth is also from there, but she has been living and working in Bangkok for years. She has a decent salary, the Japanese company she works for also has a pension plan and health insurance, and Neth doesn't need a husband for the money. But she sometimes gets tired of being alone and her best friend, my wife, is married to a foreigner. She would like to taste that happiness too. A new Thai man has been excluded after the debacle with her ex, who - after losing his job - started drinking more and more, became violent and in the end also cheated and spent the family money on other women. When Neth discovered that, the measure was full. Never again such a man, Neth thinks, then I'd rather stay alone. 'No Thai husband, no problems' is her motto. She is – I think – not the only Thai who thinks this way. As a result, foreign men are not as popular with Thai men.

Together with her and my wife (she speaks a little English but understands more than she can speak, because of her work) I filled in a profile on the dating sites. Who is she, what does she want, what kind of man is she looking for, what kind of music and movies does she like, etc. And of course there are pictures on the sites. No fake or very sensual photos, or cartoons or landscapes, but real photos of her. I made it clear to her that if she does (and why wouldn't she if she looks quite attractive) she can demand the same from the men who contact her. And if those men don't want that: just as good friends but not in reality.

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What strikes me is that most men do not read Neth's information at all. Apparently the photo is the 'trigger' to send a message or a request to become 'friends'. Most men also hardly write anything in their own profile. The number of Thai men is not large but amazing when you consider that Neth has clearly stated in her profile that she does not want a Thai husband.

The result is that Neth constantly has to refer to information that is already available and asks the man in question to fill in his profile in more detail. If only to avoid raising false expectations or wasting your time with a man who is definitely not your type. I leave the primary reaction to a photo of a man to Neth. After 1,5 years I found out that she prefers a man who pays attention to himself (no tokkie types with tattoos) and does not coquettish with alcohol in the photo (no man with a beer in hand or a bottle of whiskey on the table). I know why.

If you point this out to the men and send a nice message, most of them get angry or start grumbling or cursing. Apparently Neth should take the man as he is, and not whine because he is the rich foreigner and savior in need. The stigma of the poor, destitute, single and sex-hungry Thai woman is playing tricks on the men. The vast minority appreciates it and asks about the reasons behind Neth's reaction. If she tells them, there will also be more understanding for her point of view.

The majority of men are not looking for friendship or a serious relationship, but for the short-term satisfaction of their sexual need. That is probably also the reason why they don't fill that in their profile because you can't always write down what you want. These men want to get away from the website as soon as possible and ask Neth for her ID or number for Skype, Whatsapp, LINE, IMO and some other apps that make it possible to 'cam'. Since she gets 25-30 of these requests a day, she can't even begin. Can you imagine that you have about 200 'friends' per month (2400 per year) extra in the LINE who live all over the world. Then you can forget about your work during the day and you won't sleep a wink at night. Men don't care about this. It has to be the way they want it and they also think they are the only one. Neth explains that she only skypes with close friends and that it takes a while (as in normal life) before you can say that about someone. Most men, however, can't wait that long. The hormones are almost (but not visibly) boiling over.

A small number of men don't waste time and immediately ask about the price of a night with Neth. Or ask what it costs if Neth offers them 24-hour service in Thailand for a week or two (sometimes longer). It is said that these men do not like bargirls, are afraid of being disappointed, are afraid of illnesses or do not want to make an effort for a woman. Neth always makes it clear that she doesn't like these questions and that she has a full-time job and no bar life or bar history. Most men then 'drift off'. One person raises the price.

A notable category (at least to me) are men from the Middle Eastern countries: Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar and a few from Algeria or Tunisia. The youngsters among them are mainly looking for sensual stimuli. Although websites with sensual content are often blocked in their own country (Dubai, however, is remarkably liberal), everyone actually knows how to get around this with appropriate software. Apparently seeing the videos makes you hungry.

A number of them have had sexual experiences, but the number of Muslims up to the age of 30 who are still virgins is considerable. It is therefore not surprising that they have all kinds of questions about sex that they do not get the answers to at home. Neth didn't want to know about this at first, but I answer some of these questions or refer to English-language websites. Sometimes I look like the NVSH (if it still exists), I think. The older Muslims are usually not looking for a relationship but for fun. A single strictly religious Muslim proposed to Neth because it was the only way for him to lose his virginity in a socially acceptable way. Before that, Neth had to convert to Islam. That 'friendship' has come to nothing. That needs no further explanation.

Finally

My regard for men has not increased. And then I express myself weakly. Dating sites are used more as a conduit for ephemeral, fleeting and superficial but all-revealing sexcam contacts, while the primary goal was once to get to know people from other countries. Internet friendship (not to mention love) has degenerated into peeping behavior. And if you don't feel like it, you will usually be treated negatively. If you categorically reject that, you even get ridiculed. Men who are subsequently rejected can hardly bear to lose, given the coarseness of their manners. Or better yet: can't handle the truth. Apparently different rules apply on the dating sites than in reality. What man gets it into his head to ask the lady's bra size on a first date or when she last had sex. Very usual questions on the internet after half an hour of contact.

Men apparently find it very difficult to put themselves in the position of a Thai woman in addition to the well-known stereotypes that Neth does not fit at all. Neth wants to be appreciated and see that a man does not forget her. But rarely does she receive a token of appreciation between two moments when they communicate with each other, while there are plenty of options on every dating site: wishes, photos, presents, shopping, etc. Neth has not yet found a suitable partner. Better no man than a bad man, she told my wife the other day.

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17 Responses to “A Thai woman on dating websites”

  1. Marijke says up

    She certainly looks beautiful. There must be a nice, sweet and reliable man for her. Maybe looking for a needle in a haystack, but who knows in the future. I really hope so for her because she can be there and be proud on it's own.

    • Daniel VL says up

      It is not stated anywhere that the photo is of the lady in question. The text was made by a man who expresses his vision. As a man you cannot really express the feelings of a woman, this is only possible with direct contact. For many men, the presence of a teenager is also an objection. Also the difference in age. I wouldn't have a problem with young children myself, but young children are usually too young a mother. Coincidentally I talked about it this morning and she immediately managed to tell me about the money hunger of the Thai ladies. The question was why I was single.
      I want to be a free bird. The answer was that she felt the same way. Now I take my bike in the morning and ride where I want, No one to tell me what to do first and what to do after Do I need something, I buy what I need. For the moment I'm (73) still in good shape. and I know it can turn quickly. What then, can I still arrange my affairs myself or do I need someone I can trust?

    • Fransamsterdam says up

      Chris writes in his piece that Neth is not a model and I can feel that the woman in the photo accompanying the article is just that.
      If you were to use this photo as a profile picture on a dating site, I'm sure your inbox would explode within 5 minutes.

  2. eddy says up

    I am a man and am looking for a woman as described in your story, but where can you find it? which website?

    • frans says up

      eddy, the best website is, go on vacation, e.g. in the isaan. Give your eyes but also your brain a good living. You might be cheaper than all those (expensive) websites.

    • Andre Deschuyten says up

      Hello Eddie,
      For my sister-in-law I am looking for a Belgian man with an age between 50 and 60 years. My sister-in-law is not the most beautiful but her heart is one of gold, she is 55 years old, divorced from a Thai man, has one 24-year-old son who in turn is married to a Thai lady and they have one son of 8 months.
      My sister-in-law lives and works in Phrae (+/- 150 km east of Chiang Mai). She speaks fluent Thai, English and has a strong knowledge of the French language.
      Interested, please let me know..

  3. Jacques says up

    In the past, when I was still living in the Netherlands, I also mediated for acquaintances and family of my wife, who were also open to a nice relationship with a Dutch man. My experiences largely coincide with what Chris has written. What types there are in the world. I did make a pre-selection of potential candidates in consultation and before actual contact was made, there was always further questioning and that was often not appreciated. So be it and those clients were clearly not what my acquaintances were looking for. There is always only a small group of writers left and contact was made with a small number to further investigate whether the people fit together. Some of the ladies were already on holiday in the Netherlands and then it was agreed somewhere during the day in a common place to get acquainted. I believe that it is almost impossible to make a meaningful contact via the internet and the webcam. Others always stated that a trip to Thailand should be the least of the investment to get acquainted. If that's too much to ask, then you already know enough. This should therefore be the basis for everyone. The flame has passed with a couple and they have been together and happy for years now. So it is possible. A serious relationship is an investment for the future and you shouldn't skimp on that.

  4. Renee Martin says up

    Hopefully this article will make some men think and respect the Thai woman more.

  5. l.low size says up

    Why such a rush through a dating site.
    Wouldn't even find a suitable partner within the circle of her friend with farang?

  6. BertH says up

    That sounds like a very nice woman. That's why I almost want to ask about her profile. Such a shame she lives in Bangkok. Definitely not my city. I myself live in Chiang Mai and I really like it.

  7. patrick says up

    Hello

    I myself also met my ex-girlfriend on a dating site a few days ago.
    that was in January 2015. In May 2015 I went to visit her and we clicked immediately.
    she lives near Phichit where there is actually little to do for the tourist who visits Thailand but me
    came just for her
    In May I visited her again for seven weeks and soon I noticed that it was a lot less
    was pleasant to be with her because because I am too young (53) years old she knew that I was not yet in Thailand
    could come and live.
    in short….end of relationship.
    it all sounds so nice via chat or skype but when in reality you are not daily
    can be with them it is not going to last… simple
    all I'm left with is a broken heart and regret that I started it too soon.
    Patrick

    • Andre Deschuyten says up

      Dear Patrick,
      For my sister-in-law I am looking for a Belgian man with an age between 50 and 60 years. My sister-in-law is not the most beautiful but her heart is one of gold, she is 55 years old, divorced from a Thai man, has one 24-year-old son who in turn is married to a Thai lady and they have one son of 8 months.
      My sister-in-law lives and works in Phrae (+/- 150 km east of Chiang Mai). She speaks fluent Thai, English and has a strong knowledge of the French language. By the way, she has been to Western Europe six times for 1 to 6 months, the last time was in 2016. (6 months)
      Interested, please let me know.

      • patrick says up

        hello Andre

        sorry but for me it is not yet the time to think about a new relationship.
        I still love my ex girlfriend to think about a new relationship.
        I wish you good luck with your search and hope you find a good man for her.
        regards patrick

  8. Remco says up

    Of course you always look at the photo first .. you must be attracted to the. lady in question? .. I do read the profile but I haven't been on dating sites with Thai ladies for years because every x is a disappointment out… a beautiful woman this if she is!

  9. Rob V says up

    Men… most of them can shoot them to Mars. It may be a primal instinct to procreate, but some people have decency thicker than a thin layer of varnish. On the internet, in relative anonymity following the females. I know the stories. If someone announces that they are a young woman, then the hormones are released and it seems that many men can only think with the small head.

    Finding your happiness on the internet seems difficult to me, but as a woman it is even more difficult. Add to that an arsenal of prejudices and stereotypes of willing submissive ladies and well-fed (and farting) men who come to rescue the princess like a knight on horseback and then you know it.

    No, no dating sites for me. This piece of Chris is a reassignment so the question is whether she has found her happiness by now? Finding a good partner - someone who completes you - is like looking for a needle in a rice field. I wander (unwanted) around in the sawas again.

  10. Stefan says up

    It worked for me through a dating site. The first relationship does not, the second does.

    Why we succeeded: honesty. Everything, absolutely everything, was discussed before my marriage proposal, so that there can be as few problems as possible later on. As a man it is important to be genuinely gentle. As a (Thai) woman it is important not to put money first.

    “Luck” is also an important factor.

  11. john sweet says up

    I went to Thailand on vacation for years and did not find the woman I was looking for.
    Back in the Netherlands I got to know a Thai widow by helping her when her husband passed away.
    two years later, the friendship has grown into something beautiful and the gratitude still radiates from it.
    I will be retired for a while and I hope to enjoy my old age with her in the Isaan.
    you don't have to visit a dating site if bar to meet the right one.
    there are also plenty of Thai beauties who are free and live in the Netherlands.
    Usually they are younger than the man and if he dies they are free to start a new relationship.
    visit Thai friends or visit a Thai party.
    every Thai/Chinese shop has leaflets about Asian dance/food parties.
    you have to make the choice yourself, but these women are already used to the western world and know that we also have to work for our money.
    good luck


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