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Home » Organizations » A view by Noi, a Thai woman
A view by Noi, a Thai woman
No, my dear, Thai women are not only interested in money. For example, I am also interested in chocolate and Champagne. All women are interested in finding a man who can support them and their children (and the family in Thailand).
Why would any woman be interested in marrying a man with no money? Do you want that? There aren't many couples in the world that you could call Romeo and Juliet, but there are thousands of good marriages that exist for the mutual benefit of both parties. I'm not saying that 'romance' is dead, but a getting together based on an unreal expectation also leads to the scrap heap.
If you and a woman would be happy with each other, with the money you have or don't have, then just enjoy life and don't pay attention to what other people say in the bars.
Short but sweet
Yes why would a woman marry a man without money/job? Why would a man marry a woman without money/job? I wouldn't want to have a partner who can't even save himself. That creates a dependency situation. Then give me a strong, strong-willed, sweet partner who knows the ropes and who collects a nice monthly amount himself. But all that only really works for me when there is love, there are plenty of nice ladies to be found, but without spark or passion I don't see a relationship lasting.
Not that I have the illusion that if a family encounters financial difficulties the relationship can survive on love alone, no, then many relationships end up on the rocks. A roof over the head, rice/bread on the table and mutual respect is a necessary need for all of us. Love will not be high on everyone's list, nor does it have to be in my opinion as long as a couple is both content with their relationship. So indeed, as long as 'you and your wife' (partner) are satisfied with each other.
Seems to me a very healthy thought of a Thai woman whether her husband / boyfriend can take care of her (and her possible children). Does that differ much from us in the Netherlands?
In the old days (when everything was better or not) a man was supposed to ask his lover's father for his daughter's hand in marriage. The first question the future father-in-law then asked was whether the young man was able to support his daughter in the way she was used to.
In short, nothing new under the sun; East and West do not differ much from each other on this point.
Not entirely true, certainly not in the Netherlands where women study and then go to work. So they are much less dependent on a man. Nor do they want to depend on a man. In Thailand this is very different.
I doubt that the Thai woman would not want to be financially independent, with a nice job and therefore not run the risk of being left empty-handed when the relationship collapses.
On the website of the Thai MFA it is written that 38% of managers (executives) are women, compared to a global average of 24. This puts Thailand in the top 10. Furthermore, they write:
“Thai women have made enormous strides in the past few
decades. Galvanized by SEP's egalitarian methodology
and its focus on promoting self-reliance, a range of
empowerment initiatives have helped women across the
kingdom to develop sustainable livelihoods, become more
independent, and take on leadership roles. ”
- http://www.mfa.go.th/sep4sdgs/en/articles/70260-SEP-Approach-towards-SDGs.html
— http://www.mfa.go.th/sep4sdgs/contents/filemanager/images/sep/5.pdf
Do Thai women take a step back when they come to the Netherlands?
See the thesis on migration of Thai women to the Netherlands as good reading material. From page 95 there is the chapter “Financial arrangements within the household”. This starts with an introduction to financial divisions in Thailand, for example how middle-class couples who have moved from the countryside to the city have their income split into a household pot and a pot for the parents on both sides, often managed by the woman. About Thai women in the Netherlands it is stated that after immigration the woman expects a financial contribution from the man ("...expected to receive a monthly allowance from their Dutch husbands"). However, this is not really influenced by the situation/distribution back in Thailand ("This expectation is not greatly influenced by the practices of financial arrangement observed in households in Thai society").
According to the Thesis, a majority of Dutch men did NOT allow a joint bank account from which daily expenses could be paid. But this was difficult to digest for the Thai ladies, who could not do anything to improve their negotiating position vis-à-vis their husbands. (“For the Thai migrant women, it was difficult to accept this”). A quote from a woman: “I had worked as a government official and earned my own salary when I was in Thailand. I could spend my money on what I wanted. Here I cannot do so freely because I have no
income. I have had to adapt tremendously. “.
The thesis then continues on how women often look for a (small) job to earn their own money and to strengthen their bargaining position within the family. And also that the ladies were very aware of their financial independence in Thailand (“Conscious of their former economic independence in Thailand”) contributes to the desire to look for a job in the Netherlands as well.
- https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/handle/1887/13833
— https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bitstream/handle/1887/13833/Full%20text.pdf?sequence=9
Dutch women who study and then work choose to work part-time or to stop when they have children. Not because the man wants it, but of his own choice – single women often work part-time as well.
The result is still a financial dependence on the man, and a need for alimony in the event of a divorce.
So there is not that much difference. In Thailand, the vast majority of women work, usually full-time, even if they have children. They just get less money for it.
Money is not the driving force for a good relationship. Love, care, involvement, attention and the will to go for it are determining factors for the success or failure of a relationship. If it were, many would never be able to enter into a relationship. Especially in Thailand where there is still a lot of poverty. Young people who are starting out and still have a lot to build up naturally do not have the financial components to give substance to this. It is precisely the opposite that makes a relationship strong if the other ingredients are present. I would advise you not to pay attention to what other people in bars say about the latter, stay away from it, because that has never benefited anyone.
Chocolate costs money (good ones, at least).
You don't get champagne for nothing either. Not even bad champagne.
Maintaining a family costs claws of money….
The family in Thailand wants
of course also an extra. No chocolate coins, please.
So everything costs money.
What are we talking about?
Oh stop a minute, I met a beautiful Thai woman and all she talked about was taking care of her famously with my money. I was at peace with not only mom and dad, but brother, sister, uncle, aunt, etc. I visited Buriram and everyone thought they were rich by explaining to me what they all needed. Motorbike , aoto home country monthly allowance. And for the marriage only 500 thousand baths. I didn't say anything but put on the Thai smile and when I returned to Hua Hin I broke up with her and moved to Pattaya.
My girl already had a "real" house with a large piece of land. Her whole family takes care of itself, although I must honestly say that her father, a construction worker, is getting older and can no longer work every day. Occasionally I helped family by lending them money, which I always got back, so I don't have to do anything. For example, her brother had no money for a new scooter and needs it to go to the factory, so he borrowed it and paid back 1000 baht per month interest-free. Not for nothing and that doesn't come from me but from her.
When we got to know each other I made it clear to her that I don't want her to work all day and I have to wait for her all day. So when she got some financial room through me, she did some courses. Nowadays she makes cakes and biscuits to order, has some Facebook pages to prevent various things and earns an average Thai income from home. She hates being completely dependent on me.
She would drop the luxuries she can now afford with me if she got the impression that she would be in a dependent position on me and that I would take advantage of it.
You may have been unlucky, but don't generalize.