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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Do Thai ladies have a sore throat?
Reader question: Do Thai ladies have a sore throat?
Dear readers,
Not an urgent question, but I was just curious. My Thai girlfriend goes to a doctor (hospital) for the least and wants as many pills as possible.
She had caught a cold this week, nothing out of the ordinary. But back to the doctor right away. And pretend she's sick. Who said she was allergic to weather changes……!?! And she got pills again, sigh. I had a good laugh about it, but of course she didn't like that.
Do others recognize this too? Is it something typical in Thailand or not. My experience with her and her family is that they are very petty. Does this have to do with a lack of knowledge about the body or an exaggerated fear of scary diseases?
I like to hear it.
Regards,
Anton
Frequent visits to a doctor have nothing to do with being Thai, it is not typical Thai. It is an individual and not a cultural phenomenon. On average, Thais do not go to a doctor more often than the Dutch. Unfortunately, they are prescribed too often and too many medicines. In my practice, 50 percent went out without medication.
In the Netherlands, people go to the general practitioner (who handles 4 percent of all complaints themselves) on average 95 times a year, depending on age and gender, 20-40 percent rarely or never go to a doctor.
Frequent visits to a doctor can be divided into two main groups, namely people with chronic conditions such as diabetes and cardiovascular problems, and people with psychosocial problems. You could loosely describe the latter group as people who are not happy, experience a lot of stress and problems and therefore get all kinds of complaints. That's what a good GP and a good husband(-ote) should look out for and have a conversation about.
Happy people don't run to a doctor for every trifle.
Of course, a family history of frequent doctor visits, a certain pettiness, too little knowledge, and fear of serious illnesses sometimes also play a role, but this is the case everywhere.
I think
I don't think this is a typical Thai phenomenon. Also in Europe and the USA, doctors' waiting rooms are packed with people with a cold, abrasions or other trivialities.
Many doctors are happy to cram pills in there, despite the fact that they also know that that is not so good at all. The customer is satisfied again and it generates money.
I think it's just "attention".
Very recognizable. Due to the lack of general practitioners, directly to the hospital. Even for a cold. Instead of just getting sick, immediately grabbing medicines. But listen to the doctor's advice (e.g. more exercise, eat healthier (so less spicy and less acidic) food, go ahead! It must be the nature of the Thai ladies.
Hi Wim,
Red peppers are indeed very healthy to eat, they contain a significant amount of vitamins A and C, both of which are a powerful antioxidant and stimulant for the immune system.
In addition, like fresh garlic, it has antibacterial properties. Furthermore, there are ongoing or investigations into several positive properties of this little red monster 😉
Google around a bit.
Regards Joy
that is also my experience, but on the other hand, those ladies who grew up in a large family and especially if there are brothers are not pampered and they can take a beating…
many of them work hard for the family and also for the brothers so that they can go pintelier, have beautiful fashion clothes and a moped and that they can get other girls pregnant and you are certainly not allowed to make comments about that, unlike those girls who then a gentleman's life! I don't know where they got that either.
one should not generalize this because it was different at my ex's home in Isaan and the boys worked hard...
Medical care in Thailand is completely different than in the Netherlands, for example. In the Netherlands, we try to have the care provided in the first instance by primary care, i.e. by general practitioners.
There are no general practitioners in Thailand. At most a man / woman at a pharmacy who can prescribe some medicines, but is otherwise completely untrained.
That is why the Thai, if they feel sick or have eaten something wrong, rush to the hospital.
I can certainly recommend that to the farang, if they feel sick. Most hospitals, but also specialized clinics, often have expert doctors.
Hello
My experience is absolutely not. My girlfriend is far from that
Hello Anton, just read this, it's a message from the Volkskrant,
Professor of pain management B. Crul, from the Catholic University of Nijmegen, is pleased with the outcome of the American study. He himself has long thought that differences in pain perception have both a psychological and a hereditary cause. Crul sees it as a sign for the health care sector to deal with pain complaints even more seriously. 'It shows a lack of empathy and stupidity to say that people in pain act like they are.' Dentist P. Baan from Haarlem is also convinced that pain perception is partly determined genetically. Baan thinks that the character of his clients also has a major influence on their behavior in his chair. He recently had a mother with four children come to his office. The father was too afraid to come and one of the four children absolutely did not want to be treated. 'That may be genetically determined, but children also adopt a lot of behavior from their parents.' According to W. Blom, teacher of groups 7 and 8 at the Freinetschool in Heiloo, parents also play an important role in their children's response to pain 'I think that children with a sore throat don't get enough attention from their parents. If they always say that it's not too bad, such a child can't get rid of his pain. 'According to Blom, children react very differently to pain. 'One holds on to a gaping wound, the other runs to me crying at the slightest cut. The influence of genes is new to him. 'Well, if that's the case, the parents may play a less important role than I think.' Athletics trainer H. Kraaijenhof is willing to assume that pain perception is genetically determined, but he also emphasizes that there is always a psychological component. the four hundred meters can always run a lap of honor, despite the enormous pain that the production of lactic acid causes when running. That pain is gone the moment he wins. The loser is in so much pain that he immediately falls to the ground. That is purely psychological.' Athletes learn to accept that pain is part of their profession, according to the trainer. 'A fisherman in the North Sea doesn't mind if he gets wet, either.' Professor of Christian Ethics J.-P. Wils from the University of Nijmegen sees many people in pain. He does pastoral work in the intensive care unit of a hospital. 'A genetic explanation for pain is nice, but it won't change the perception of the pain.' Still, the researchers' finding makes him think. 'I'll be even more careful with accusations about pettiness.' Pain perception can be trained, is the conviction of Thai boxing trainer T. Harinck. "I train boxers so that they can better withstand pain during a match." But those same boxers can cry like a child when they have a toothache. That has nothing to do with genes. How much pain you feel is mainly psychological.'
I also have the impression that they can indulge in small inconveniences. I sometimes get annoyed by that. They are happy again with a bag full of medicines and vitamins.
Yes Anton; I also had a good laugh at the article about the doctors in Thailand. I also have a friend who went to a clinic several times for the most silly complaints. Eye complaints caused by virus or bacteria were dismissed with a hypersensitivity to eggs and migraine. Again and again a visit to the same "doctor". Ecema caused by hypersensitivity to massage oil was treated several times and…………not resolved. The eczema was captured by a lady at the front desk of the clinic with a phone camera and the employee used the phone to call the "doctor" in a back room. Prescription: pills that don't work. Just laughable.
I believe that with my modest knowledge of Thailand I could run a thriving practice with guaranteed much better results.
What drives the Thai to consult the same person over and over again is not entirely clear to me…we will probably never find out.
Greetings and enjoy your girlfriend and Thailand.
JohnB.
John, where your wife is going is the first shelter at the hospital. In Thailand, the concept of a general practitioner is not known. The doctor your wife goes to is comparable to the general practitioner in the Netherlands.
If something is serious, he/she will refer the patient to the specialized doctors.
Locally you also have small emergency services where baby and child care is provided, such as vaccinations, weighing, measuring, etc.
You can also often go here for free for wound care after an operation, for example. Or if you can't go yourself, they will come to your home.
I only recognize 1 something in my wife. She comes from Phattalung Province where the rainy season is intense. She sometimes suffers from an allergic reaction when she ends up in rain. Due to weather change? Then she suffers from sneezing and snot for 1 to 2 days. She is less bothered by this as long as she doesn't get rain on her head. She will take some pills.
For the rest I hardly recognize it in my wife, no further need for a doctor or pills.
Yes Anton, of course personally, but my experience is that a Thai, so not just the ladies, quickly visits a doctor. When I have caught a cold I always get the advice to go to the doctor quickly. Of course I don't, but when I do consult a general practitioner or a specialist in the hospital for another ailment, the diversity of the prescribed medicines is striking. I quickly got the impression that it is part of the revenue model. Perhaps the reason to quickly go to a doctor lies in the fact that it is much easier for a Thai today than in the recent past.
People who normally have trouble paying a doctor and find themselves in a situation where they can afford to go to a domter for the least amount of money. And preferably to a specialist. And if they come home without pills, it is certainly not a good idea.
yes that's right for the slightest thing going to hospital and proudly going home with a bag of pills. Even they try to stay in the hospital as long as possible after surgery, they find it safer because of infections. Doctors also make it so busy that you always get a follow-up appointment. Even if it's not necessary
And…..certainly not just the ladies. Men are often even worse
Dear Anthony,
I also notice this with my Thai wife. There must be some truth to that. My wife and I are opposites in that, because I hardly ever go to the doctor or the hospital.
Not even when I have a cold. I know from experience that it takes about 2 weeks. So I go to the office as usual. At home I rest a little more. I immediately made that clear to my wife. She accepts that and therefore does not go to the doctor for a cold. Only if it lasts too long or if there are abnormal developments, then I would consider a visit to the doctor.
But if ailments persist, I would still go to the doctor.
Last year I spent a day “not feeling well” in Thailand in the village with my in-laws. Then in the evening I went to the doctor under very increased pressure from my entire in-laws. Got medicines. My in-laws were very happy of course and the next day I felt normal again. "See?". I didn't respond to that.
The difference in mentality is big. Thais believe that doctors work miracles. If the disease is cured, then they are invariably convinced that the medicines have taken care of it.
I must add that there are also light-sensitive Westerners who go to the doctor for the smallest ailment.
Thais are very religious and possibly superstitious. On the one hand, they take (great) risks: Buddha must have something to do with that. Buddha will protect them as a reward for their generosity.
On the other hand, they are afraid that something will happen to them: then they believe in the miracles of the doctors and the medicines.
Overall, and from personal experience, I still believe that Anton's claim is correct.
Hi Anton,
I have been married to Thumma for 14 years and do not recognize your story, sometimes I have to send her to a doctor.
Greetings Dirk.
Very recognizable. Even for a little increase, they go to the hospital, which immediately gives an infusion.
The stereotypical image is that the 'non-Westerner' quickly goes to the hospital and demands that the doctor hand over a bag full of pills. But is it correct? Realize, for example, that we have a GP practice, but elsewhere you still have to go to the hospital (hospital), something that with us is for more serious matters than a check for a cough, rash or nodule.
In the 7 years that I was with my sweetheart, she has visited a doctor once (if we do not count the call for uterine cancer for 1+ check-ups here in the Netherlands, but I do not count an annual general medical check-up of the staff either) ), that was in Thailand and really just to get an extra day off from work to see with me. Hop past the hospital (St. Louis, BKK) and with a vague complaint of a cough. Got a doctor's statement for absenteeism, a bag full of at least 30 different pills and go home. But for something like a real normal cold or cough in TH or NL I didn't see her consult a doctor.
Correction: 7 is unfortunately 5 years.
Indeed Anton, I recognize that.
If there is no doctor nearby, they will go to a pharmacy for a cold.
I think it has to do with little knowledge about the body and even less about medicines and their effects. Usually they don't get instructions for use, because they don't read that anyway according to some doctors, whom I spoke to about it
Yes, I recognize this too. My wife, her brothers and our children go to a doctor at the slightest thing, but preferably to a hospital, where they arrive very early in the morning and are successfully helped hours later in the afternoon. They then come back with a bag full of medicines, much of which is hardly used and must be thrown away over time. I'm usually the one who cleans up that stuff after all. The refrigerator and a medicine cabinet are full of opened drinks, pills, etc., often past their expiration date. Even if I have a health complaint, I am advised to consult a doctor. With a paracetamol, my complaint usually passes to the surprise of my housemates.
I do have very good experiences with a pharmacy in Roi-Et. I often suffer from heartburn. The owner then advises me to try a mint drink and that indeed helps. She also had a great solution for my fungal nails.
Going to a doctor when you are sick is still seen as 'smart' there and not doing it or trying to do something about it yourself is considered 'stupid'.
I can't get my partner to the doctor since an x-ray was made of a (perhaps broken) ankle. When she heard about the deductible system, she thought every visit to the doctor was unnecessary.
But I also sometimes visit a Thai home that proudly opened a drawer with a stock of pills that a village pharmacy in Thailand would be jealous of. Own import after a doctor's visit in Thailand, and taken over pills from friends who had a similar cough or vague pain.
Doctor visit without coming home with pills? For many Thai unimaginable.
I don't recognize it in my wife. WELL with my mother-in-law. Has been struggling for years with all kinds of ailments, of which the age counts the most.
Comes from abject poverty and now that it is financially possible, everything must also be the best.
Mother-in-law is 78 years old and has run out. Atrose has a bad shape and therefore a slightly curved back. (say a novice hunchback).
I think it's also because of always looking at the ground because she's literally always looking.
She also suffers from separation anxiety because my two brothers-in-law live in Bangkok with their families and businesses and we commute between the Netherlands, Jomtien and Utaradit.
Furthermore, mothers suffer from high blood pressure and I'm talking about 176 - 120 at 86 b / m.
But mom eats very healthy. A large bottle of maggi added to all her food during the week is quite normal.
But the doctors and the visits.
1. GP is bad because GP says I can't do it You should use less salt and the Atrose is age related. Charge 100 bath or so
2. Orthopedist in State Hospital in Uttaradit is very bad. Only gives 1 type of tablets and advice. Does not want to operate due to age. Taking into account medicines, blood tests, blood pressure measurement and ECG . bill 240 baht.
3. Private clinic in Uttaradit of a brother and sister who come from a very wealthy family and have a practice for the hobby and human orientation. ECG, Blood pressure, Blood test, Ultrasound, Roentgen, Explanation about what to eat and what NOT to eat (NO SALT). given a diet and prescribed support and pressure stockings. Bill something like 400 bath. So it was already better. So mothers don't follow the diet, Don't wear support stockings because they pinch, Just continue with the wrong lifestyle. So complaints remain and then go to another hospital.
4. Uttaradit military hospital. Same examinations, About the same advice as the orthopedist. But bill 300 bath. Must be a bad hospital?????
5. To a private hospital in Pitchanulok. Is 2 hours there, 2 hours back and 2 hours waiting.
Blood pressure measurement, ECG, Conversation, Medication (paracetamol) given and a new appointment. Cost 2200 baht. According to my wife VERY bad research.
According to mothers, this was the best hospital she had ever been to?????????
We my wife and I have given up. We have told mothers that if she does NOT listen to the orthopedist and the military hospital, she should do it herself.
But unfortunately the appointment has already been made so soon back to Pitchanulok. Oh not with us. So eldest son comes over from Bangkok especially to go to pitchanulok with mothers. We are now in Italy 🙂
My experience is that if your Thai girlfriend is sick let her go alone so they don't see farang. When mine went alone, she got stuck at the GP with a reasonable bill. If I came along, she was referred to the specialist for the same previous ailment, only now with a higher bill, Take advantage of it.