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Reader question: Marrying my Thai girlfriend
Dear readers,
I would like to marry my Thai girlfriend. Where is the best place to do this. In Belgium or in Thailand?
I want to get married in Thailand but I don't understand Thai. So I don't understand Thai law and the marriage contract. I especially want to protect my savings. If I buy a house is she entitled to half upon divorce?
I found a Thai premarital contract. But what's that worth?
Thanks.
Bart
We got married in Bangkok and then registered everything in Belgium. So we got a Belgian marriage certificate without any problem. The police came to check whether it was not a marriage of convenience.
After three and a half years in Belgium, we now live permanently in Thailand and have been living in Thailand for two and a half years now.
After marriage in Thailand, we applied for family reunification so that we could live together in Belgium. It seems that family reunification can cause difficulties. With us it was arranged in one day! If there is any doubt, your request for family reunification will be sent to Brussels (home affairs) and your file can be stretched endlessly!
I wish you good luck!
Jan
success of course!
look, you have to decide for yourself where you want to get married
if you get married in thailand she also has advantages and disadvantages
The advantage is that you can buy a visa for one year
and she bears your last name
when divorcing you should always 51% is for your wife and 49% is for you
in Belgium that is half
there are pros and cons there too
you have to decide for you and for your girlfriend
Belgium ; you and they then have more rights. Don't forget to arrange everything after the wedding with a notary in Belgium and a reliable lawyer in Thailand, so that everything is clear later - for example in the event of death.
Yes Bart the problem is you have no rights whatsoever because that house will be on her land and you can make a lease agreement to live there and as far as your savings are concerned just leave it in Belgium and if that is not possible an account in YOUR OWN name make it on the couch and leave it alone, option 2 is not getting married and living together can also be fun and perhaps better for your health. LOL
The best thing you can do is to have a marriage contract drawn up by a (Belgian) notary, which you then have translated by a certified translation agency in Thailand (list available on the embassy's website). You can have the marriage contract “executed” at the embassy by the Consul who is also sworn in. This happens in the presence of you and your future wife, the Consul and 2 witnesses.
A clause must also be included in which your future wife confirms that she understands the content. This will then be signed by everyone... and then you can get married... Good luck!
I had the same problem and wanted to commit myself, but not at all costs, partly because I also had to think about my Dutch children. That is why I have now only married for Buddha, which has much more value for my wife and her family than a legal marriage. A Budha marriage has only moral obligations and no legal obligations, so it is safe to commit in that way anyway. Of course you can always get married before the law later if you know more about all the rules and laws. Good luck!
Moderator: you are supposed to answer the question and not come up with your own story.
Marriage should be forbidden because I only see misery and fighting divorces around me. 80% will split up sooner or later and the Farang is always the dick of the stuff in the end.
Move in together, and hold the trumps and give them the red card if they get gossip.
With this one you get a red card from me for this nonsense or is it only for Thai women?
That 80% will probably apply in your circle, people especially visit you when they have problems, you are known for that, but that 80% is not correct in the circle I know.
To advise people against a marriage in order to keep the trumps in hand seems to me to be a very negative starting point for perpetuating a relationship.
Nico B
Bart, don't believe me getting married, leave it as it is now, if it comes to getting married anyway,
only for the buddha, no frills and don't get stripped financially. regards william
“I especially want to protect my savings.”
In that case I recommend a bank account or a sock. Not a woman, and certainly not a marriage.
Getting married is very easy in Thailand. You and your girlfriend go to the Amphoe with your birth certificate and proof of not being married, including a Thai translation of course. Takes half an hour and your wife immediately receives a new ID card, with your last name on it. (Thai law) In general, the law does not differ from the average European law, except for the land on which your house is located, for which you should consult a lawyer. We are legally married because neither of us believe in Buddha marriage and since it is likely that I will die first, me 63, she 43, so she will receive part of my pension when I am dead. If you think your wife is after your savings, don't get married.
If you get married in Belgium, your girlfriend must be in Belgium, in the Netherlands you can't just take your girlfriend with you, so the answer to your question is getting married in Thailand
“…with your last name on it. (Thai law).”
I officially got married in Thailand 12 years ago and my wife has always kept her own name.
It is therefore certainly not an obligation in Thai law
I got married in Thailand 4 years ago and my wife was asked if she wanted my name on her ID card or her own.
So she is given the choice!
Bart speaking William from experience. I myself have been with the same female and married for 18 years
for Buddha.Coling de Jong also speaks from experience not getting married is best.GR.Harry
Getting married for Buddha is not getting married. A blessing at the most, but you can also have Peppie and Kokkie or the greengrocer do that for you.
If Bart wants to legally marry, it is not up to the reader to advise him not to do so. If His question is where best to do this, in Thailand or in Belgium. If he does this in Thailand, he will have to have his marriage legalized in Belgium afterwards and in fact follow the same procedure as if he were getting married in Belgium. This carries the risk, which can be small or large depending on the circumstances, that the marriage is not accepted. If he marries in Belgium, after the procedure he is sure that it is an accepted marriage, so no doubts.
Too bad he doesn't write down where he wants to buy that house. In Thailand or Belgium. If this is in Belgium, it falls fully under Belgian law. He can have a marriage contract drawn up in advance by a notary. A contract that he will at least understand and know what it says. If he does this in Thailand, get married, buy the house, make a contract, then he has no idea what is actually stated in that contract and he falls under Thai law. I think enough ink has already been spilled about what awaits you as Farang in the event of divorce or death of the wife.
If you follow the advice of some and marry only for Buddha, which does not provide any legal right, then your wife, upon your death, has no right to a widow's pension. You can then say: she has land, she has a house…. yes yes, she can eat soil and stones after you die. Is that what some want after being well cared for for years?
In this case I would err on the side of caution and marry in Belgium, under Belgian law.
Good luck in your further life.
Bart,
I totally agree with lung addie.
But I do want to add that if
1. you have children together;
2. you were only married before Buddha (so probably legally cohabiting in Belgium);
3. you are both officially registered as parents of these children;
that then your children will (probably) inherit everything when you die. Then your children will of course (hopefully) also take care of your wife (if she is still alive).
I cannot comment on pension and other financial arrangements: it depends, among other things, on whether they are still dependent on you.
But before you take the big step, I can only recommend that you inform yourself thoroughly and study all the positives and negatives of both options. Take the time for that!
It is unclear where you will live.
Since Thailand and Belgium have different rules.
Rights to certain things are established with a marriage, such as a pension. Many financial matters have been fixed because of this. A marriage is nothing more than a contract, in which mainly financial obligations are laid down.
It doesn't matter where you get married, but where you live does. If you get married in Thailand and start living in Belgium, you will still have to register the marriage in Belgium for financial matters such as pension and taxes. Pension, to which she would otherwise not be entitled. You may also want to amend a will, if you have one.
In any case, prenuptial agreements are important. Thailand also has prenuptial agreements to get married under.
Perhaps when buying a house in Belgium, you will certainly have to inquire how this goes.
Since you then buy that with your money and you will have to have it in your name and fitting into the prenuptial agreement. Lawyer required.
In Thailand you cannot have a country in your name/property, so you will have to arrange that through your wife with a usfruct, Lawyer required. However, the house can be in your name again.
In Belgium you will have to pay alimony, while this is not the case in Thailand.