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Prime Minister Prayut hinted on TV yesterday that the relaxations on travel within Thailand may be lifted and he also keeps open the possibility of taking strict measures, such as a ban on all New Year's festivities. The Thai government is concerned about the Covid-19 outbreak in Samut Sakhon.
“This outbreak is a reminder of how serious the threat of the Covid-19 pandemic remains for Thailand. The situation has also suddenly deteriorated worldwide. In December, the number of deaths increased by hundreds each week and by thousands in some countries.
This deteriorating situation in the world will also have serious consequences for Thailand. We have to prepare for that. First, it means that it will take longer for the global economy to recover, which has implications for our own economic recovery. Secondly, we will have to be even more careful about relaxing rules and when admitting people from other countries.
Because the situation outside Thailand is so bad, we run the risk of people entering the country carrying the disease, which will spell disaster for our health system and will have catastrophic consequences for the economy.”Praut said.
Pattaya already announced yesterday that the Countdown celebration has been cancelled. Mayor Sonthaya made this known after a discussion with the parties involved about stricter measures, because many migrant workers from neighboring countries also work in the province.
Source: Bangkok Post
I just heard from locals from the village that people in Kamphaeng Phet and Nakhon Sawan are advised to stay within their own province and not to travel to other regions.
In our village, 1 person has been registered with Covid-19, who had been to the market in Samut Sakhon (where the big outbreak was this week) and contracted it on the way and brought it with him.
The family members have all been tested and negative, but must stay indoors for 10 days.
I suspect he won't be the only one who got it there.
Just arrived here from the hotel (quarantine) for 3 days.
Hopefully they can contain the outbreaks otherwise we will be stuck here for a while.
Just went to immigration yesterday to extend my extension of stay.
That was a story in itself, but in the end I made my mark.
greetings and happy holidays everyone
Ferdinand, you have arrived safely. Not to hope that things will be locked just after your quarantine period!
I'll be 'off' here next Tuesday, but what if I couldn't get to my destination then – probably hanging around in Bangkok. And that after you have been found negative in 3 tests.
Fingers crossed for a good ending!
Hi Cornelius,
I thought of you when I saw this message because you still have a little to go there..
Incidentally, I took a few pictures of the hotel with a drone when I left on Sunday.
I want to send them to you, you have to email me because I don't know your email address.
Other than that.. take care and have a little fun.
I had previously emailed you at the address you gave, did it not arrive?
What a panic football.
Replace the coach, I would say.
@Chris just like in the Netherlands, they certainly did well there.
No panic here, but overcrowded hospitals, tens of thousands of postponed operations and a healthcare system that has stalled and now more than ten thousand deaths.
No, it's fine here.
Well. In Thailand, the government, really not the smartest, has the plan to make a field hospital for covid with 1000 beds. With 1000 cases in 5 days of which 90% asymptomatic. And in the Netherlands, everything apparently has to go through regular health care. What a level of thinking…..
What a story? More than tens of thousands dead? In the Netherlands you mean I assume and ALL deaths. Then it is roughly 150.000 on an annual basis.
Just this story for the Netherlands for perspective.
As an example, let's put things in numerical form and to clarify that we are also being fooled a bit. The emergency hospitals with ICU places are empty. There is NO ONE there.
Ahoy, MEC, RAI, Martinihal. and lost 1 more. ZERO patients.
Why is the Netherlands so panicked? A man of 86 dies on Monday and immediately on the news. Cause of death according to daughter corona? Man has been bedridden for 2 years. But he often coughed and had a fever? Eh sorry about lying down, your lungs are full of fluid and of course you want to get rid of that.
Relativizing and for Contemplation.
Statement. Did he die. Yes too early? No he was overdue. Have a look at RIVM and CBS.
Current expected end age for man is around 80 and woman is around 83 years.
Number sizes indicated and from CBS.
Born in 1937 number 170.000 born in 1940 185.000 LIVING. This with 8,8 million inhabitants in the Netherlands at the time.
In mid-1947 and 1950, the expected final age for men was 70 and for women 72 years. With 11 million inhabitants and 265.000 and 229.718 live births in 1947 and 1950.
In terms of births, 1946 is our peak year with 284.000 live births.
Proportionately and also in view of the growth of the population, you may and can also expect the number of deaths to be a number close to the average of the live births in 1937 and 1940. Perhaps because of the growth of the population to 17.5 million even more.
If you start from this and start minimizing, you could state an acceptable and also in terms of forecasts based quantity with and in terms of despised life and also the younger deaths due to growth from 1937 to 2020. The average of the people born in 1937 and 1940 would be a nice number can be.
In proportion, you can therefore expect 50 to 50 that 2020 people from the years 177.500 and 1937 may die in 1940.
For people born in the years 1937 to 1940, however, did a life expectancy of 70 to 72 apply at that time? It's about understanding numbers. Ultimately, from today's date, over a period of 100 years, 17.5 million people will die in the current population. That too 175.000 on average per year.
There are also mortality indices over several years. For the Netherlands in 2018, this was 9,21 per 1000 inhabitants. The Netherlands has a relatively old population.
Thailand has a mortality index of 8,31 per 1000 in 2019.
Reason Thailand has relatively more young people born after 1960 or 1970.
Set against a current mortality index of between 9,21 and 17,5 inhabitants, the number of deaths in the Netherlands in 2020 should logically be between 161.500 and the previous 177,500 people
HOWEVER, according to CBS and RIVM, a total of 1 people have died this year until December 2020, 145.000 and it is stated that this is 11.500 too many?
What is the truth and what is it based on.
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What I miss is a relativity of.
In WW2, 58 million people died. Is very, but technically from August 1, 1939 to August 1, 1945 only 25.000 per day.
This year applies:
Fact: 42 million abortions in a year.
More than 30.000 people die of hunger every day.
More than 27.000 people die of cancer every day
More than 22.500 people die every day due to lack of drinking water
More than 5500 people commit suicide every DAY
Every 2 minutes a child under the age of 5 dies from malaria
Only 4600 worldwide die per day from the corona or SARS CVD19 or Covid 19 or Corona. See 12 most killing viruses.
In order:
1. Marburg virus. Started in 1967. At the time, 25% deaths among those infected.
With the peak now 80% chance of death. Rages in the Congo and Angola.
2. Ebola virus Sudan, Congo, 50% risk of death if infected.
3. Rabies or rabies. with no treatment 100% certain death.
4. HIV or AIDS since 1980 estimated 32 million deaths. 1 in 25 infected dies within 5 years. Africa has been particularly affected.
5. Smallpox Fortunately, according to WHO, eradicated, but still active again in the 20th century with a 300 million deaths on his conscience.
6. Hanta virus. active since 1993. When infected 36% chance you will not survive.
7. Influenza virus During a typical flu episode, 500.000 people worldwide die.
Known in 1918 as Spanish flu. 40% of the world's population suffered from it and an estimated 50 million deaths in 1.5 years. As many as all dead in 6 years of WW2.
8. Dengue virus Especially in Thailand and the Philippines, 50 to 100 million infections worldwide per year. 2.5% chance of dying.
9. Rota virus. Annually 453.000 deaths under the age of 5. Especially Africa and South America
10. SARS-CoV Started 2002 from unfortunately Guangdong in China. transferred to 26 countries. In case of infection 10% chance of death. To date a 770 deaths in 2 years 2002 to 2004
11. SARS-CoV-2 Also known as Corona or Covid 19. death risk 2,3%. So far as of December 2019, 78,8 million infections and 1,67 million deaths worldwide.
12. Mers CoV Is bankrupt from SARS and SARS 2. Since 2012 active in Saudi Arabia and South Korea.
Risk of death in case of infection 30 to 40%.
10, 11 and 12 are all 3 Corona viruses.
Display only numbers to put things in a box.
Another big and much more important problem is the following and applies to the entire planet earth.
This in the context of: Depletion of raw materials, Drinking water, Food, Deforestation, Water and air pollution, CO2, Nitrogen etc etc.
World population growth 80 to 100 million per year.
EXPLOSION humanity
year number
1804 1 billion
1927 2 billion
1960 3 billion
1974 4 billion
1987 5 billion
1999 6 billion
2013 7 billion
2022 8 billion
2034 9 billion??
2044 10 billion??
This is the essence of many problems that are NOT looked at and dismissed as nonsense.
However, raw materials, air, water, environment, food, water, etc. are either chronically short.
EU targets back to mid-1990?
In terms of world population and numbers, this means back to mid-1970. Then many problems are easier to solve.
For the Netherlands, a maximum number of inhabitants is approximately 11 to 12 million.
In the 1950s, even named as such in the speeches from the throne by the government and the queens.
Emigrations to Canada, USA, South Africa, Argentina, New Zealand and Australia as an example.
Prudence is the mother of the china cabinet
If only people would be so careful with the economy, poverty reduction and corruption….
No panic football, but taking the measures necessary to contain the virus. The fact that there are still hordes of people who go through life with a blindfold on and deny reality is extremely sad. I am not making any statements about replacing the coach, but replacing him about his corona policy is a short-sighted statement.
No, not just because of covid but because of gross incompetence in all sorts of areas.
Incompetence is everywhere in Thailand. So pointless discussion. Like it's a competition. I hope the world gets Corona under control soon, at the end we all benefit from this, including the locals in Thailand.
Everything again the fault of the farang, surely?
Everything comes from the Chinese Prayut's best friends.
Yes dear Chris, replace the coach, but he has been the coach for 8 years and cannot be replaced according to his own claim.
It is not about him himself, but the parliament.
The fear of foreigners has started again. Migrant workers and foreigners import the virus. Doesn't Prayut understand that if you blame foreigners for all the misery, the Thai people will not be so hospitable after this crisis? That will really have an impact on tourism.
Dear Peter,
In my opinion, it is therefore up to the Thai to think for themselves. He also sees that the Thai government is trying to attract long-stay tourists. So a double message.
If people are indeed less hospitable to tourists (some of whom have been coming for years), then the neighboring countries will win.
And then I will have absolutely no pity…
Dear followers,
Sometimes I don't understand the wonder that partly falls on you in the 'land of smile'.
Sooner or later there had to be an outbreak of the virus here, by the way, I never believed the numbers, of course if you test very limited, the results are good.
Now that those who have been released from their 'captivity' are now afraid that they will not be able to stay where they currently are, others are concerned that they will not get to their final destination after their 15 day quarantine.
This was foreseeable folks. I understand that when you haven't seen your partner or loved one for 9 months you want to go back as soon as possible, but it wasn't just too soon. ??
And idd the leader of the country has another easy excuse to make the Thai shy and afraid of all those sick farangs who enter their country.
I am not a doomsayer, would love to go back to my second home, but I fear that even getting the vaccination Prayut will find something to keep the tourists out of his country for as long as possible.
I hope from the bottom of my heart that I am wrong, because I miss Thailand very much.
Merry Christmas in advance,
Jozef
What a selective hysteria about the corona epidemic in Thailand.
The epidemic has resulted in 5000 infected people in Thailand, of which 4000 have been declared cured, and 60 corona deaths. How does that compare to the figures elsewhere in the west?
The Thais would do better to use their hysteria for the 25.000 road fatalities every year and the more injured for life. That is much more urgent, but is accepted by the Thais as 'normal'.
That would be a lot more effective for public health than disrupting the whole of Thai society now with the ridiculously strict measures against the spread of the virus because of those few dozen pandemic victims.
And how many people are now being reduced to beggars, the tourism economy has collapsed for years, enormous increases in unemployment, an increase in suicide, domestic violence, disruption of families and much psychosocial misery.
All the "farangs" that are now entering the country, have they been tested and quarantined? So it can't come from them, otherwise you say so, and the tests, and the quarantine serve no purpose.
Frontier workers, and illegal border crossings on the other hand, because without tests and without quarantine…
Didn't the current outbreak start, through a Thai woman who frequently went to Bima (Myanmar).
Yes guys,
The Thai are tough.
Picked up my visa yesterday.
Already applied for my COE 2 times, and rejected 2 times.
So immediately the third attempt to provide the correct forms.
So despite all the restrictions I still want to go to Ubon Ratchathani.
I wouldn't be surprised if a number of provinces will be closed next week. Schools in Bangkok are also closing here and there and I suspect to reduce travel.
In a country without significant social security, you shouldn't try to see how far you can go. If the breadwinner dies, the result is an x number of people in poverty and that can never be in anyone's interest.
Perhaps for the deniers who now see a solution to overpopulation and therefore for their own opportunistic gain.
There are already 4 in lockdown.
“Four provinces that are facing the risk of a new wave of Covid-19 infections have officially imposed lockdown measures to keep the coronavirus from spreading.”
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30400078
People can differ about the possible measures that may now come again, and also regard them as harmful for anything and everything.
The fact is that Thailand has done well so far with the consistent border closure, and difficult mandatory quarantine, etc., which apply to both Thai and farang.
What would have been the collateral damage, apart from the economic, if they had done everything so smoothly in terms of measures, as most of the farang liked to progress and are still progressing?
With a comparable number of infections, would the Thai health system stand just as well as the richer industrial countries are already reaching their limits?
And would all those farang who now like to travel to Thailand, or already live there and have been spared major sources of infection, speak exactly as much about relaxing measures, if the contamination and death numbers were exactly the same as in Europe or America.
I highly doubt this, and suspect that many would understand the seriousness of these measures more than now.
As long as it's a so-called far from my bedside show, so that people around them don't get any of the immediate misery, many will gladly believe those who say it's all a bit exaggerated, and no longer like a normal flu.
Fine relax all measures, preferably remove the mask, maybe open the borders again, and suspect anyone who thinks otherwise of a doom thinker or fear maker.
Would, if proven not otherwise, be balm to our hearts, and sound like music to our howling ears.
However, the question is how long will the effect of this balm and the music in our ears last, if no one has had a vaccination against this virus yet?
That's why, and I respect any other opinion, unfortunately we still have to live with measures, and just have a little patience.