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Home » News from Thailand » Looking for the owner of Victory Monument in Bangkok?
Looking for the owner of Victory Monument in Bangkok?
Who actually owns it Victory Memorial in bangkok? Oddly enough, no one knows. At the beginning of July, the municipality of Bangkok already made an appeal to find out, but that has not yielded any results.
Prime Minister Prayut has now ordered the government to find out which agency is responsible for the monument. The municipality of Bangkok wants to know because it wants to refurbish fifteen monuments in the capital.
The intention is that the municipality will take over the management of monuments of which the owner is unknown, so that they can develop them into tourist attractions.
There are far-reaching plans to refurbish the surroundings of the Victory Monument, which dates from 1942, and to improve accessibility. The monument is in the middle of a busy roundabout where three roads meet and is therefore difficult to reach. There will probably be a crossing and a tunnel to the monument.
Source: Bangkok Post
How is it possible that a monument has been prominent in Bangkok for 76 years and that the municipality of Bangkok (had to grant permission before the monument was placed at the time) does not know who made the request for placement at the time.
It probably proves that the administration is a mess over there. I think that if I start placing a monument in a prominent place here in Chiangmai without a permit, I will immediately get the police and then the municipality on my roof.
I myself estimate that there can be 2 possible owners, namely:
* the municipality of Bangkok itself or
* the central government.
What a comical display.
Comical and incredible. But isn't it often the case that the most obvious things (after 76 years) lead to questions? There must have been documents of that. But after 50 years someone may well have decided that that old rubbish could be thrown away.
How much concrete information do we have about our great-grandparents? Must be very little.
In living in an area where there was heavy fighting during the First World War, many tunnels were dug and almost everything was destroyed. After the war, all misery was quickly forgotten and literally covered up. After 50 years, things were discovered that no cat was interested in. Now 100 years later, underground complexes are still being discovered where little or nothing can be found in documents, but where many searches are made about… “history” is called that.
The municipality has not given permission, but the regime has given instructions at the time. So it was an order, and it turns out there's no deed either. Just look in wiki. Here's an excerpt in English:
In 1940–1941, Thailand fought a brief conflict against the French colonial authorities in French Indochina, which resulted in Thailand annexing some territories in western Cambodia and northern and southern Laos. These were among the territories which the Kingdom of Siam had ceded to France in 1893 and 1904, and nationalist Thais considered them to belong to Thailand.
The fighting between the Thais and the French in December 1940 and January 1941 was brief and inconclusive. Fifty-nine Thai troops were killed and the final territorial settlement was imposed on both parties by Japan, which did not want to see a prolonged war between two regional allies at a time when it was preparing to launch a war of conquest in Southeast Asia. Thailand's gains were less than it had hoped for, although more than the French wished to concede. Nevertheless, the Thai regime of Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram celebrated the outcome of the war as a victory, and the monument was commissioned, designed, and erected within a few months.
Have a look at WIKIPEDIA. I think it says who had it installed and who gave the order
Then the question arises, who has maintained the monument all the time?
The monument, a reminder of the conflicts between French Indochina and Thailand as I understand from the Wikipedia references above, will have been built by order of the penultimate King. Most of the land was then royal property. Indeed, there will be no more documents about it.
That the monument is maintained, like so many others, will have happened for years without questioning it. It is about cultural heritage. Now people probably want to cut costs and find that they cannot find an owner to recover the maintenance. No one will feel called. And it can soon become state property (royal property).
Call it an administrative rectification, after an administrative error.
No one will show up with papers to prove it's theirs, or will they?