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Home » News from Thailand » Short news » Belgian weed grower arrested in Thailand
Belgian weed grower arrested in Thailand
Patrick Lagrou, a well-known Belgian weed grower from Zandvoorde near Ypres, has been arrested in Thailand. Foreign Affairs has confirmed this, Belgian news sources report. Lagrou was on the run from justice and stayed on Phuket.
In 2009, the police found a huge cannabis plantation on Lagrou's farm. It was the largest plantation ever rolled up in Belgium. Lagrou went to court and was released on conditions, but fled. He was supposed to appear in court at the end of October, but his trial was postponed.
In any case, Lagrou will be deported from Thailand for violating immigration law.
Foreign Affairs says that an international arrest warrant has been issued against Patrick Lagrou, he will be arrested as soon as he sets foot on Belgian territory.
Source: various Belgian media
How does something like this continue?
Both countries do not have an extradition treaty, I think, because then the gentleman would get a one-way ticket to Brussels. I don't read that; he is 'expelled'. Do you have something to say or do you automatically go to the country of your nationality? Or can you choose?
The Belgian news announced yesterday that he will be extradited to Belgium.
In case of “deportation” you always go back to your country of origin.
There is no choice.
Although there is no extradition agreement between Belgium and Thailand, this is
the ideal way to identify suspected individuals without political consequences of criminal cases
transfer anyway.
SENATE Written Question No. 5-880 dated January 27, 2011 : (Question asked in Dutch)
According to the law of 15 March 1874, Belgium does not extradite its own nationals. This law does allow, for the implementation of treaties concluded with foreign States on the basis of reciprocity, the extradition of aliens who are being prosecuted by foreign judicial authorities for violations of criminal law, or who are wanted for the execution of a punishment or measure .
Can the honorable minister give me the following answers?
1) A list of all countries with which Belgium has concluded a bilateral treaty for the extradition of prisoners and suspects.
etc… ..
Reply received on June 9, 2011 :
1. Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Bahamas*, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada*, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Fiji*, Guatemala, Honduras, India*, Kenya*, Lebanon, Liberia, Morocco, Mexico, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Paraguay, Peru, Salvador, Solomon Islands*, Tanzania*, Thailand, Tunisia, United States.
http://www.senate.be/www/?MIval=/Vragen/SVPrint&LEG=5&NR=880&LANG=nl
People have contacts for bad things, but not for good things.
He's lucky he didn't end up in a Thai prison.
When are people going to do something about not paying taxes in Belgium if they don't live there?
According to VTM news, Lagrou is temporarily in a Thai prison until his deportation. For me it can stay there until December 15th. His trial will start in Belgium on December 22. But the question remains whether he will go to prison upon arrival in Belgium. Because due to procedural errors at the time, the court apparently has no leg to detain him.
It can also be read in the press that it is not possible to monitor all persons awaiting their trial. They should have tried harder for this person. And the fact that he applied for and received an international passport may have made the Belgian authorities more vigilant.
How was he able to travel outside the EU zone? He probably played it smart by leaving the EU zone by car (e.g. Turkey) and then taking a “flight” to Thailand.
1) He will probably not go to prison upon his arrival, but he will have the additional condition that he must remain available to the justice system in our country until his trial...
2) He could travel perfectly legally to Thailand via the EU zone (for example from Brussels or Amsterdam), as he was not arrested and did not have to be at the disposal of the court. So the international passport was rightly given to him, that was not a legal error or a lack of vigilance. Of course there is a gap in Belgian criminal law…
3) The likely additional condition he will receive will be linked to an international arrest mandate, which means he can no longer travel to another continent (including via Turkey)…
In principle, he cannot be extradited to Belgium, Belgium has no extradition treaty with Thailand.
He can only be deported for the offense he committed in Thailand.
An extradition procedure can take months, if he takes a few good lawyers he can move to a country where there is no extradition treaty.
If he is nevertheless extradited to Belgium, he can prove that persons have been taken hostage unlawfully by the state of Belgium, Belgium is thus violating the European law of extradition.
Lawyers know what to do with this.
This will probably be another Belgian joke. According to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, there is
an arrest warrant. But the Belgian public prosecutor's office competent for this warrant knows nothing, and it is
his (top) lawyer has not been informed.
So to date, his only offense in Thailand is overstay.
in Belgium we already know the outcome of such a process.
Acquittal for procedural errors.
It's a pity, but that's how justice works in Belgium.
Dear Ronnie,
My mistake, you are right Belgium has an extradition treaty.
Treaty of 12 November 2005 between the Kingdom of Belgium and the Co-
Kingdom of Thailand regarding the transfer of sentenced persons
sonen and on cooperation in the context of criminal
lining
(BS, July 13, 2010)
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Legally, this is a questionable arrest, as there is no arrest warrant against him.
In other words, he was allowed to go wherever he wanted while awaiting trial.
It's a shame that so many crappy, marginal, and criminals keep fleeing to Thailand and not to, say, Kenya, Norway, or Japan.
I think that is a stain on this beautiful country! Thailand should immediately extradite all foreign criminals, small and large, to 'all' countries, this would give the country a better image.
Hopefully the proceeds from his villas paid for with crime money will be distributed to the poor Thais, then it will still make some sense.
That is Thailand again. They're not going to slaughter the goose with golden eggs if they don't have to. Such a man must have quite a bit of money and that has now benefited the Thai economy. Incidentally, I think that there are a large number of criminals here in Thailand from all kinds of countries. John Mieremet was also murdered here, wasn't he?
Article from the Phuket Wan newspaper :
http://phuketwan.com/tourism/phuket-checkpoint-police-arrest-belgiums-wanted-producer-illegal-marijuana-21343/
Also read the interesting comments.
He has already lost another conviction on appeal, being convicted in absentia due to prohibited possession of weapons during a search (including ammunition in several hidden places), so he can only resist. On that basis, probably internationally.
@RonnyLatPrhao
According to the law of March 15, 1874, Belgium >NOTS OWN NATIONALS FOR ALIEN...< !!!
Link to the already sentencing in absentia :http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland/article/detail/1732984/2013/10/31/Cannabisboer-krijgt-in-beroep-18-maanden-voor-verboden-wapenbezit.dhtml
Correction of previous extradition treaties
According to the law of March 15, 1874, Belgium does not deliver OWN NATIONALS.
This law does allow the extradition of... !! in implementation of treaties concluded with foreign States on the basis of reciprocity. STRANGER!!
Nowhere do I write that Belgium extradites its own nationals to another country.
This has nothing to do with this case at all.
This therefore does not concern the extradition of a Belgian, by Belgium, to another country, but of a Belgian who resides in another country and is suspected of committing criminal offenses in Belgium.
A Belgian national must therefore be extradited to Belgium.
The agreement between the two countries in question therefore applies, ie Thais are extradited by Belgium to Thailand and Belgians are extradited by Thailand to Belgium. So reciprocity.
If he had committed the criminal offenses in Thailand, and he were staying in Belgium, there would indeed be no extradition by Belgium because the law of 1874 does not allow this.