Last night in Bangkok, an American man (50) was stabbed to death by a taxi driver during a fight. The argument would be about the fare.

The incident was partly captured on surveillance cameras that show an elderly man trying to push the taxi driver away. The taxi driver is armed with a kind of samurai sword.

The incident took place at 20:30 PM on Saturday evening at No. 68 Soi Sukhumwit in Bang Na District. The man fled in his pink taxi with number plate ท ว -6549.

This morning, the police announced that they had arrested the perpetrator. Thai media report that the driver killed the man because he refused to pay. Police will hold a press conference later today.

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19 responses to “Foreigner stabbed to death in Bangkok after argument with taxi driver (video)”

  1. Khan Peter says up

    My advice don't argue with a Thai over money. Some taxi drivers have a knife or a gun under their seat. They are sometimes half overwrought or overtired from working long days. Then things can quickly escalate.
    Such an argument may be about 500 baht (12,50 euros) you should not take any risk.

    • Khan Peter says up

      Incidentally, it is strange that Bangkok Post has not included this message in the coverage so far. Selective?

  2. Lenthai says up

    What madness. Now that American is paying for an ordinary quarrel with his life. You never beat a Thai when it comes to money problems. Losing face is something we hardly know and really understand, but which is very important here in the Far East. This tourist is not the first to lose his life because of this.

  3. Marc says up

    I'm scared of this though.
    I have just returned from Bangkok and have used the taxis there a lot.
    My experience is if you are just relaxed yourself (and why not) the taxi drivers often are too.
    Nevertheless, if they try to trick you for money, you don't just have to accept it.
    Agree well in advance and if you don't have a good feeling about it, just take another taxi. After all, there are enough.

    • Ferdinand says up

      I don't completely agree with you about “being relaxed yourself” or switching to another taxi. Unfortunately, in many years in Thailand I have had many unpleasant experiences with taxi drivers.

      Sitting with child and parents-in-law in a taxi in Bangkok, friendly asking if he could drive a little more slowly or otherwise want to stop, very aggressive reaction and refusal to stop and then forced perilous ride through Bangkok.

      Threatened by another taxi driver and being able to run out of a taxi in the middle of a major intersection in Bangkok, the reason: the same question to drive calmly.

      In several other cases, when asked to please turn on the meter, my wife was scolded and asked why she stood up for those cursed falangs.

      For a ride of less than 70 baht on the meter, the taxi driver wanted 500 baht because it was busy. “Rescued” after being threatened by hotel staff.

      Had taxi drivers from "outside" several times in Bangkok, who had the evening as an extra job but still knew how to do it. Very aggressive when you then said you would rather pay and get out.

      Taxi drivers threatening you if you said you wouldn't ride if the meter wasn't used. Same with drunk taxi drivers.

      Taxi drivers who attacked each other out of competition, taxi drivers who threw you out of the car after causing a collision and fled from the police and left the injured in the street.

      So everything overwrought, overtired taxi drivers who have to work for far too little money, but endanger their passengers.

      Understand the stress, but it doesn't have to be taken out on me or my family.
      Would be very nice if the taxi market would be regulated, good for the environment and people.

      In front of hotels and tourist spots and in bad weather there are queues of taxis that refuse to take you for a normal price, treat you rudely and aggressively. Don't wait for a tourist.

      Better control of taxi drivers, only permits if they have a real driver's license, driving experience and street knowledge.
      And maybe first a course in stress management,

      Don't want to be generalizing and negative (of course there are good and very helpful ones) but in 20 years in Thailand his experiences with mainly Thai men, not really positive. Offended, long toes, lack of any logic, loss of face, never admitting they were wrong, running away from any responsibility (bus drivers who regularly flee after causing an accident) are not always pleasant to deal with in Thais.

      I often don't understand why this eternal need to praise the “Thai smile” and “friendliness” so much. These are often outward appearances that sometimes hide a life-threatening attitude. We often gloss over everything on this blog as “cultural differences”.
      I maintain that wrong behavior is simply wrong in every culture.

      I would like to conclude with the remarks that I have of course had as many or more positive experiences in all those years in Thailand and that it is pleasant to stay here on balance. But the loss of face mentioned, the often absolutely unreliable in financial matters, the “sometimes” avoiding responsibility and placing the blame on others does not always make it easy to feel well.

      I assume that someone will of course come along with the comment “then you leave anyway” but I see Thailand as my “own” country, I would like to feel at home and integrate and with that also the good and bad things of society can name.

  4. Jan H says up

    Sad reality but not really something Thai, it is generally known that in the world in the taxi industry you have to watch your step, only in one country people grab weapons a bit faster than in the other country, because they are easy to obtain and to protect themselves.
    It is true in Thailand that the taxi driver in Thailand has to do a lot of work to get his daily income, if the driver has rented the taxi, he alone pays 600 baht rent per day, and they often drink drugs or energy. use to stay awake, because they work long days yes and if you don't want to pay for your ride then it can quickly escalate.
    In addition, taxi drivers in Bangkok are robbed almost daily, which is why they are often armed.
    We live in Bangkok ourselves and therefore often go by taxi, we have also experienced quite a few incidents with taxi drivers in the past.
    Like a driver who already bumper glued and raced on the toll road at 200 km per hour and did not respond when my wife told him in Thai to take it easy, then we made him stop at the first exit and paid him.
    Or drivers who drive to make more kilometers, we have also experienced that several times, because my wife grew up in Bkk, she knows the road very well, so that kite never goes up. And then the taxi driver who started driving with one leg on the dashboard. And so I can give various examples where it can also escalate if you approach it the wrong way, if you disagree with something it is best to just let the taxi stop pay what is on the meter, even if the amount is not correct and take another taxi, don't argue because you will never win.
    Here are some tips if you want to take a taxi in Thailand, especially in Bkk, it is best to take a dark green-yellow or light blue-red taxi, these are taxis that are owned by the drivers themselves, these are the most reliable. private owners who are either connected to a power station or drive independently, because there are a lot of cowboys driving around in Thailand. Make sure that the driver turns on his meter, the starting price is 35 bath, write down the taxi number on the picture on the door, if an incident occurs, it will be quickly traced thanks to this number. If you want to stay in Thailand for a long time and you are satisfied with a taxi driver, ask for his business card, we have also done this and now we have several taxis up to our disposal that we know to be reliable.

  5. Jörg says up

    What madness to argue about a taxi ride for, presumably, no more than a few hundred (or maybe even less) baht. If you really do not agree with the price, write down his details and possibly file a complaint or leave it at that. But it's even more madness that you have to pay for this with your life.

    Let's not forget that this kind of thing also occurs in the Netherlands, given the large number of taxis in Bangkok you would expect to read messages like this more often.

  6. Keith 1 says up

    Dear George

    I myself have had a collision with a taxi driver in the past. Yes that can be high. I have therefore been using the theorem of Peter and Tjamoek for many years
    Pay but you won't win anyway. It's annoying but it's no different.
    We also have a regular driver when we are in Thailand. Just like John above
    The advantage is that he lives in the same street where our house is.
    We always report in advance if we want to go somewhere. And so we are always assured of transport and a reasonable price. And just as important a good driver
    I don't need to blast down the highway at 200 km per hour.
    It is therefore good advice for people who come to Thailand on holiday every year. find a good driver. If you call him, even if it has been a year since he drove you, he will be at your door in no time. Of course it is not something that only happens in Thailand

    • Jörg says up

      Totally agree.

      Furthermore, not everyone has the luxury of a 'regular' taxi driver, but I can imagine that this has major advantages.

      Fortunately, I have never had to argue about the price. I may have paid too much, but then I didn't know it... As long as most rides are under 100 baht, that's not something to worry about.

      • Keith 1 says up

        Dear George
        Sorry if I gave the impression that I would have a regular driver, I can't afford that luxury either. I mean to say that we always go with the same driver when we need transportation. Everyone can afford that
        Sincerely, Kees

  7. Jörg says up

    Hello Kees,

    I understood that. I meant more that most tourists will not have a phone number for a reliable driver.

    I'm so used to the Dutch prices that I can't easily worry about a few baht more in Bangkok.

    Best regards,

    Jörg

  8. Jan H says up

    Dear Hans,

    I completely agree with you, you should always keep your hands off someone else, the border is always light with violence.
    What I now understand is that the American man did not agree with the amount on the taxi meter, and this caused an argument between the Taxi driver and the American man MR (Troy) Pilkington, the latter apparently then had coffee and a spa in the to have thrown the Taxi driver's face.
    You see that violence never solves anything (two losers), but you also have to remember that you are in a different country where different laws apply on the street than you are used to.
    And I don't want to justify it either, I also recognize the feeling when you are sure that you have been treated unjustly or robbed, the first reaction is always yes, but I don't accept that, and you want to go against it at such a moment it is in Thailand better to count to ten because you really don't win you are there at such a moment alone no one will come to your aid, that's why I think that in this case too this gentleman would have been better off just paying and then he still had lived, even when he was sure he was robbed, because your life is worth more than those few baht
    You should also know that a taxi license in Thailand means nothing, anyone who has a medical certificate that he is healthy and in possession of a valid driver's license has a license within 5 hours, yes and unfortunately cowards too because that is unfortunately enough in advance not to check.

  9. Ad says up

    How can it be that you disagree with the taxi meter? If you get in and are a little observant, you will see the starting rate appear: 35 Bath, okay, he could still take a detour, but if he takes a detour for 100 Bath, you can take a nap on the way. And he doesn't put any effort into getting out and mincing words.
    Sometimes it can be difficult, I have experienced that no one really wanted to turn on the meter and after trying 10 times, but an agreed price cost me 100 bath extra for the ride.

    But who knows, that man came from somewhere far away and was lifted for a few thousand baths, in and in sad this outcome. But hoping that this driver will stay in the Bangkok Hilton for the time being, he can look forward to room service.

  10. willem says up

    The taxi incident:
    I have seen the movie [the first 15 seconds] several times. What struck me personally is that the Farang [American in this case] behaves very aggressively/authoritarian towards this Thai driver; and therefore immediately goes on the attack.
    I have experienced the same situations with a friend of mine, who gives massage and wants to haggle the Farang when paying and then makes the biggest problems; and I also know some Russians who do not want to pay in a restaurant. I sat there for a few tables next and my blood really started to boil. Is that my Thai girlfriend told me not to interfere / but different!
    I've really had it with the Farangen [I don't write it with a capital letter anymore] in Thailand!
    That's why I'm happy to be in Isaan / luckily [yet] not bothered by it!
    Gr;Willem also Scheveningen…

    • Keith 1 says up

      Dear Willem
      You blame the Farang if you look closely at the video you will see that it is an older one
      Farang is and that the Thai walks with a one meter long machete. in some cases, the best defense is the offense. You can take it from me that it is quite something when someone with such a knife stands in front of you, the adrenaline rushes through your body and you only want to survive one thing. A cornered cat makes strange jumps.
      I think your conclusion is completely wrong.
      Because the Farang haggles and the Russian won't pay. That more or less justifies this event for you. Bit weird though. You've had it with the Farang
      May I remind you that you are one yourself

    • Sir Charles says up

      See it differently, because the video clearly shows that the taxi driver already has a sword in his hands and that the American therefore behaves aggressively or goes on the attack to defend himself.
      He shouldn't have done that and so just pay if you love your life.
      What happened there before can only be guessed, however, the American can no longer tell his story to give a rebuttal, that is for sure.

      I dare to accept that the taxi driver in question has a sword in his taxi and is therefore not a nice boy in advance, but oh well, why not also have a sword with you, always handy when a farang does not want to pay, wants to haggle and whether it causes major problems. However? 🙁

      By the way, 'farang' does not have to be capitalized linguistically anyway - except as the opening word of a sentence - because it is an umbrella term for an (ethnic) group such as: Indo, Latino and farang.

  11. Geert Jan says up

    The killer taxi driver says the American wouldn't pay. If a Thai does something wrong, it's always someone else's fault. It is much more obvious that the Thai was paid with (1000.bath?) and did not want to give change back. This seems a lot more logical to me than a murderer's twist. On the video it also seems as if the American wants something from the taxi driver. His change perhaps?

  12. frans says up

    I also had a run-in with a taxi driver a few years ago, when we arrived at the hotel in the middle of the night he said the meter was broken and he wanted more money, as I had taken that route before I knew the meter was good and so refused to pay extra. I then asked the head of security to solve it or call the police, he was able to arrange it with the driver. When I read all this now I realize that situations like this can get completely out of hand very quickly. Now if I want to leave a hotel with a taxi, I let them order a taxi, then you usually get a reliable one.
    If the Thai government takes tourism seriously, they will tackle this very hard. In the event of misconduct, I would say immediately withdraw the permit and impose a high fine. It seems to be commonplace with these types of aso drivers.

  13. King French says up

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