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Home » News from the Netherlands and Belgium » NL embassy in Bangkok: Almost every year 5 Dutch people die from scooter accidents
NL embassy in Bangkok: Almost every year 5 Dutch people die from scooter accidents
Posted in Background, News from the Netherlands and Belgium
Tags: Rental scooter, Dutch people, Scooter, Road fatalities
There is an article in the Volkskrant about the many accidents involving rented vehicles scooters during a holiday. Thailand is especially notorious. Annual passing away several, mostly young Dutch people, or are seriously injured.
Embassies and insurers regularly warn of the danger, but that seems to have little effect. The financial damage can also run into the tens of thousands of euros because a young tourist who rents a scooter of more than 50 cc without a motorcycle license cannot rely on his travel insurance. Medical costs and repatriation must then be paid by the family.
Thomas van Leeuwen of the Dutch embassy in Bangkok says that he has repatriated five fatalities to the Netherlands in the past year. An annually recurring number. For several nationalities, Thailand is the most deadly holiday destination in the world.
Read the full article here: www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-BACKGROUND/ accident-with-huurscooter-verpest-te-often-the-holiday~b99069cc/
Apart from the cc problem, when you see how farang will drive such a thing! A rental helmet often without a visor, which means flies in your eyes, the strap is loose, broken or absent, and the cheapest of the cheapest on the head. Taking a good helmet with you in your luggage doesn't cost anything extra... Clothing is often nothing more than a shirt, shorts and slippers and off you go! Alcohol suddenly seems to be allowed in a country where people drive on a different side of the street than we are used to.
If you cause damage to third parties under the influence of … then the damage will be recovered from you and you will not leave the country until payment has been made. People think on holiday that everything is allowed and possible and then you get those deaths in traffic.
Only information works and that is partly a task for travel insurers. But yes, if you are going to travel without such a policy…..
I think that information is the task of the government and not of the insurers.
In my opinion, good information starts with ourselves.
We are solely responsible for our actions.
We are adults after all, right?
Taking each other into account starts with you and me and not with the government, in my opinion.
Moderator: Unreadable due to incorrect use of punctuation marks. So not posted.
Completely agree and such a piece in the newspaper is also a kind of information.
The problem is that the many information sessions, especially to the younger target group, will be read, but that little attention is paid to them and that in itself is quite logical I think.
Young people should have an opportunistic attitude to prepare themselves for the future and fear does not fit in with that, although I fear that the sheltered upbringing of the last 25 years has also not contributed to the awareness of dangers and certainly if the safe Netherlands is behind is left for a vacation.
As a parent you have to let go of your child and I can imagine that it is unpalatable if something bad happens, but it is simply part of life.
People get on such a thing who have never even ridden a moped. They think, well, I'll learn it like this…. They cannot brake or steer. Do you also think that the other road users will obey the traffic rules as they know them at home, most of them drive on the left here, but fortunately not all, so they feel a bit at home here on the road.
The owner of a large Dutch travel agency once said to me; “people think about everything before they go on holiday, take things with them that you will never need, arrived alone at their destination, it seems that many have left their thinking skills at home”
Arjen
Beats. I once sat on a terrace on Koh Samui. On the other side, scooters were rented to a group of young girls. I jokingly said to a friend next to me, one goes down on the first best corner. And yes, that happened. I don't have any predictive abilities, but you can tell by the way they get on and drive off that they have zero experience. Really dangerous.
Good article. I would like to correct an important matter: The medical costs are indeed paid, simply by the health insurance. Repatriation is included, provided you are transported to a hospital in the Netherlands. The cause of the hospital admission is not considered.
That is incorrect information. Repatriation is not covered by your health insurance. https://www.reisverzekeringblog.nl/is-een-reisverzekering-wel-nodig-ik-heb-toch-een-zorgverzekering/
Peter, not covered by basic insurance, is correct. But if you, like me, have an additional module with the XYZ Health Insurance, then repatriation, provided via your own exchange, is certainly included. So it depends on everyone's individual coverage.
Despite the sad reality of the danger of driving on two wheels in Thailand, my friend recently lost her mother and father who thought they would visit the market together on their scooter 200 meters away. despite all that sadness, it is sometimes also laughter.
Two years ago, wave after wave of Chinese visitors came to Chiang Mai for a period of time. A large scooter rental company in the center is 200 meters away from my daily visit to a coffee shop. Coffee shop located on the site of the first gas station that the tenants then encountered. Every day groups of young Chinese arrived at walking pace to refuel here. They were still driving, thank God, very carefully. Their driving experience was probably exactly 200 meters. Always two people on a scooter. Occasionally even with the helmet backwards on the head, so unworldly. And very often, to my surprise, they did not know that when you stop it is useful to put your feet on the ground. Every time you saw those scooters slow down at the pump, stop and then slowly fall over, with both riders usually rolling over the dirty concrete unharmed. That happened easily about 5 times an hour again.
Sad and worrying rather than comical, of course, but it still made me laugh many times.
Another proof that the 'ordinary' tourist costs a lot more money at the Thai hospitals than the old expats who are trying to sell health insurance.
If the hospitals want to save costs, it would be better to get the young tourists to sign an insurance policy first;
But if you have taken out insurance and you do not comply with the conditions by riding a motorcycle without a valid driver's license and/or participating in traffic while under the influence of alcohol, the insurance will not pay out in the event of an accident. Most readers of Thailandblog know by now that no mopeds or scooters are rented in Thailand, but that these vehicles have a larger cylinder capacity than 50cc, for which a motorcycle license is therefore required. But many holidaymakers have not prepared enough and make the mistake of renting a motorcycle with all possible consequences.
Not too bad, only 5 Dutch people…
What strikes me is that it is different in Cambodia and Vietnam, much more scooters / motorcycles, but almost all of them have a helmet ...
I've also been hit by a pickup, practically in front of my house. Drove too fast and couldn't brake in time. We were going to go to Tesco-Lotus but ended up in hospital. Broken leg and can only hobble and limp around. I have been riding the motorcycle in Thailand for more than 30 years, so it is not always the biker's fault. It had to happen at some point with all those idiots on the Thai roads. I believe there are 23 million motorcycles driving around here and then a tourist who has never been on one of those before comes and rents one. Incomprehensible.
The young people are in a holiday mood. They want to get from A to B as cheaply as possible. If they can rent a motorcycle for relatively little money, that is a bonus. If they are then stopped as they were last at a check in Chiang Mai and receive a ticket of 500 Bath, they are told by the police that they can drive for 3 days with that receipt. Then they dare to ask where they can extend it. I think there is a very different task for the police here. Let them first and foremost ensure that the rental companies ensure that the tenants can provide a valid driver's license with an international driver's license. If they then rent out a motorcycle and an accident happens, they will claim the damage from the lessor. The police should also ensure that the Thai also receive thorough driving training for both the motorcycle and the car. Then the check also for Thai youths who ride around on a motorcycle and are not yet 10 years old. But it must be a utopia to believe in that.
That problem already starts with the scooter rental companies,
who rent to people without a driver's license!
In fact, the landlord should be fined for this
and 50% percent of any damage
If you have to pay, this problem will be solved quickly.
We are in Thailand and not with us. A Thai will never pay for a stranger. A Thai landlord will never pay 1 Baht for a Farang. Vice versa, of course. In Thailand, the Own people rule is very appropriate first.
Samak rents the moped and lets Somchai ride it…
Who should then hold whom liable and then the bald chicken…
Legally you can shake it because someone with a salary of less than approx. 40.000 thb per month is not considered solvent…. by lady justice
An accident happened quickly. The main cause is often, especially among tourists, the inexperience in driving a motorcycle, alcohol and drug use with the associated recklessness. No knowledge of and compliance with the applicable traffic rules in Thailand, both by Thais and by tourists.