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Home » News from the Netherlands and Belgium » Dutch tourist Myrna (24) electrocuted in Vietnam while taking a shower
Dutch tourist Myrna (24) electrocuted in Vietnam while taking a shower
Posted in News from the Netherlands and Belgium
Tags: Electricity, Dutchman, Passed away, Vietnam
The Dutch Myrna, a 24-year-old medical student from Nijmegen, died in Vietnam this week during her trip through Asia. She was electrocuted in a shower at a hostel in the Vietnamese coastal town of Hoi An, where many backpackers stay.
Her death has been confirmed by a spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. How and what exactly happened is still unclear. The surge was so high that she died.
In Southeast Asia and therefore also in Thailand, the water of the shower is usually heated electrically. This does not have to be a problem if the device is properly grounded and mounted correctly. Unfortunately, it sometimes falls short of that. She may be the victim of that.
Editors: The heater in the photo is also mounted incorrectly. This should hang higher than the shower head so that the chance of water reaching the unit is smaller.
Source: Dutch media
This type of shower heads or those equipped with an electric spiral are also used in South Africa. In fact, they remain very dangerous solutions. Even if you were to stand on an insulating wooden platform or soft rubber crocks, the water could conduct the current and thus make a closure or chase the current through your body. As a backpacker, take a black shower bag with you, which generally warms up sufficiently.
I have a shortcut on the device, a safety switch outside the shower and then another earth leakage circuit breaker in the electrical cabinet. Then it seems safe enough at my house. And yes, also placed high so that it does not get wet and no water can penetrate, although the boilers are built to prevent water from entering.
The heater is often mounted so low because the generally smaller Thai cannot otherwise turn the heat knob.
Also have 1 in the condo. Checked yourself whether there was soil on it. Not. Installed yourself. Immediately the boiler in the kitchen the same. So not good either. So there is also an earth leakage circuit breaker for both. By the way, I now have 1 on each group.
Did the same in Uttaradit. Everything was well grounded there. So put an earth leakage circuit breaker on the different groups. Oh there are 8 inputs for the electricity.
That's right Kees, but then the Thai themselves are so small that the shower heads are placed relatively low (lower).
So better take a cold shower
Indeed, because let's be honest, the water is never really cold here.
And you get used to it quickly, once you've done it a dozen times you no longer long for extra heated water.
It is a world of difference with our Northern European weather conditions.
And it is 100% safe and you save some money on the bargain.
If it is 26, 27 c. in our Thai winter. I, and all my Thai neighbors, thought we were very happy with the (well-protected) electric geysers. 15 C water is not nice, never, if you are already chilly in the winter.
In short, there is a big difference between holiday makers from Europe and residents who are used to high temperatures.
I also have a heater. However, it is mounted outside the shower cabin and the water/electricity pipes run into the wall. Cold/warm can be adjusted with a mixer tap. The heater (Siemens) therefore constantly supplies hot water in a safe way.
I renewed the entire group box in my house in pattaya. Each group is now equipped with an earth leakage circuit breaker 30Ma. Only in Thailand there are RCDs, but no RCDs, so brought from the Netherlands. Furthermore, there are usually single-pole circuit breakers that people put in what they have, so often too large
'Further there mostly single-pole circuit breakers'
That's quite normal those single-pole circuit breakers. In Thailand, MONOFAZE is usually used: ie Line (380V + Neuter (OV), this then gives 220V (230V) between L and N. A NEUTER is NEVER interrupted, it does not carry any voltage, by the way. You just have to pay close attention to it that an L is never exchanged with an N in the power supply box because in this case the N would carry chipping and the L would not.
RIP.
I have properly grounded all kitchen appliances and hot water appliances AND had a NEN-quality group cabinet with earth leakage come from NL. A Dutch electrician has checked everything again on site.
As for the photo, that kind of shower hose can be extended in an extremely simple way with a second hose so that the shower head remains far from the device.
I replaced my heater a while ago, and the construction certainly looked solid.
A good seal of the heater against water and the input of the electricity runs down and up through a tunnel, and is a few centimeters below where the cable continues into the heater.
So water cannot leak in through the electrical cable.
There is also an earth leakage circuit breaker, which will not save you if a 'mechanic' has connected the device incorrectly.
That's why I have a second earth leakage circuit breaker outside the bathroom.
I suspect that the ground fault is not present outside the bathroom in the hostel.
Also in Thailand there are unsafe showers in hotels last year also experienced that a fluorescent tube without a hood was attached in the shower right above my head, I immediately reported this and demanded another room,
Well done but…. it will be worst for the owner. Go and see….
I live in viewtalay 2b Pattaya. There is no grounding there and if you ask to do it VB washing machine then Thais just connect the wire to the water pipe that serves as a grounding wire. It is now ok, no more electric shock when touching the washing machine, but there had to be a heavy crust in the washing machine. happen that transmits to those water pipes??? Could that continue to the shower or bath. And those automatic plombs that have to detonate??? I have already had short circuits where the wires burst with faint noise and fire, but an automatic fuse fails: NO. Rather serve as a switch and do not fail. It is ideal to install a 30 ma power loss switch to all boilers and possibly the water pipe as ground? Normally this is not allowed, but then everything blows out if the boiler heats up. But I think that the boiler is usually connected to a plastic water pipe. Less chance of electroshock. I have been living there for 17 years now. In Belgium everything goes out immediately. Thailand is ablaze but not a single fuse has failed. I am an electrical technician myself and know how far I can risk myself. I think it's best to bring a power loss switch from Europe. And I like to work on electric with full power on. But never grab anything with your hands, otherwise you will not be able to open it. Ordinary electrical
shock no problem : you pull away and done. Lots of electro fun hee hahaha but still be careful.
'Further there mostly single-pole circuit breakers'
That's quite normal those single-pole circuit breakers. In Thailand, MONOFAZE is usually used: ie Line (380V + Neuter (OV), this then gives 220V (230V) between L and N. A NEUTER is NEVER interrupted, it does not carry any voltage, by the way. You just have to pay close attention to it that an L is never exchanged with an N in the power supply box because in this case the N would carry chipping and the L would not.
Unfortunately, that changing of the cables can also be done at the meter, which hangs on a concrete pole of the electricity at my place across the road.
Dear Ruud,
that's right, already swapping the L and the N at the meter.
Therefore a good advice:
AFTER connection, have a professional carry out the following measurement:
between L and N : 220 (230)V
between L and own ground: 220 (230) V
between N and Ground 0V
This puts you on the right track to avoid surprises later on.
What does earth represent in Thailand…a pen half a meter into the ground…During the dry period the soil is completely dried out and the earth will be minimal….they have never heard of meggers. So stay careful with electricity and drive a pin of at least 2 meters into the ground.
A 3,5 m copper pole through the lid of the cesspool or kitchen pit and then into the bottom. It contains plenty of moisture and 1,5 m in wet soil that remains wet. Decent clamps on it and no toy stuff that is included for free. I have three and they are connected to each other with a 6 squared wire. From there 4 squared into the house to the wall sockets and the appliances themselves usually have standard 2,5 squared ground wire. That thing was tested by a Dutch electrician and the earth leakage closed well within the standard required in the Netherlands.
But Thai devices do not always have earth. I had to provide the freezers with a 2,5 square vein myself to be able to ground.