Have you seen Martijn Goorts (24) in Thailand?
The message appears in the Dutch press and on Facebook that a 24-year-old man from Uden, Martijn Goorts, has been missing since last Monday. The severely autistic boy left home last Monday to “get a woman” and is now said to be in Bangkok after wandering in Poland and Ukraine.
Martijn initially left Uden to go to Russia. He wanted a girlfriend and the women there are “neat” in his opinion. However, he was arrested at the Belarusian border (visa problem?) and sent back to Warsaw. The Polish police let him go again, because they could not charge him criminally.
Now he would be in Bangkok, but so far there is no trace. If he is actually in Thailand, it should be possible to determine this via Immigration and the Dutch embassy. Foreign Affairs reports that the embassy in Bangkok is aware of the incident, but can do little. After all, Martijn is an adult man and has the freedom to come and go as he pleases.
“Legally, in this situation we are not even allowed to inform the family where someone is. Martijn, if he is found at all, can be asked to make contact with his very concerned mother," says a spokesperson for BuZa.
As long as Martijn does not do anything criminal, no one can stop him since he is of age. “But he can react aggressively if someone approaches him in the wrong way. Moreover, he has nothing with him, no glasses and a limited budget. If he ends up in the wrong environment, a serious situation can arise," says mother Angeline Ten Have.
It is not known where the message that Martijn would be in Thailand comes from, but it remains a strange thing. His mother says he has a limited budget, but the flight from Warsaw to Bangkok must have cost quite a bit.
If you meet him anywhere, remember that you too have no right to disclose his whereabouts. All you can do is kindly ask him to contact his mother to tell her that everything is fine!
I am surprised that, on the one hand, the mother and the press are allowed to publish and distribute a kind of 'search report', which indicates where the person concerned has been and for what purpose, his financial situation is revealed, and medical information is provided, while there is no reason at all to assume that a criminal offense has been committed, nor is it plausible that the person concerned would be the victim of a crime, but that on the other hand you or I if we see this gentleman somewhere walking around, we shouldn't tell you where.
I would like to know on the basis of which article from which code of law people think they can tackle me. And moreover: If someone sees him walking around in Thailand and someone announces in Thailand where this gentleman is located, Thai laws apply, if this gentleman is seen in country Y and someone who is also in country Y announces his whereabouts, then this behavior must be tested against the laws of country Y.
If anyone sees him, please call the NL embassy on: +66 230 95 200, ask for Mr. Pieter J. Weber, case manager.
There is no legal impediment to reporting Martijn's whereabouts.
Thank you Arjen!
Oh well, just 'get a woman' as if you need to snap your fingers in the countries mentioned, including Thailand, so that the women there immediately fall to their knees in front of you.
Some charm and courting to seduce a woman is not necessary at all, saying that you come from a rich prosperous country is more than enough.
Well, where does the prejudice come from that men who have a Thai wife/girlfriend are often seen as men who are not seen by their female compatriots, bruises who can't even decorate a 'ladies' bicycle', therefore, in the end, just be a 'woman? orphans'…?
If I meet him in Thailand, I will certainly remain friendly, but I will urgently inform him that Thai women are not a bargain at the supermarket checkout, which is then carelessly placed on the belt with the daily groceries.
Hi Sir Charles,
I thought long and hard about whether to respond to your comment.
Young people with Asperger's syndrome are often slow in their social/emotional development. Their friendships are based (if any) on common interests and intellectual connections rather than openness, romance, and exploration of sexual feelings.
It is extremely difficult for him to interpret “signals” from the other.
He could fall head over heels in love with another person and not notice that the other person is gently and clearly trying to say that she is not interested at all.
Conversely, he also does not notice when others have less romantic or friendly intentions. He can very easily become the victim of unwanted sexually transgressive behaviour. Martijn has recently been the victim of catfishing. A young lady from the US was "nice" to him, Martijn thought she wanted to "marry" and sent money to her when she said she had no money for much-needed care.
I tried to explain to my son that the young lady in question was a con artist. He could not and would not understand. Even after he called the fictitious hospital and was told she hadn't been admitted, he wanted to call other hospitals in the same state!
For Martijn, dedication, reliability and honesty, but also loyalty are of paramount importance.
In the Dutch press it may come across as somewhat distorted.
Everyone wants heat. My son too. He just doesn't know how.
When he thinks of a woman and you ask him in all honesty what a relationship should look like, I am surprised to hear: “I imagine that I can sit on the couch with her and eat fries… ”
Martijn has never sat next to a girl on the couch, kissed a girl... Although his desires have been widely reported in the press, they are actually very pure and human.
He is not able to “decorate”…
There has not been a pendulum to be found in his life for the last six years.
So why Russia or Thailand? Perhaps it is his expectation that the young ladies will be less judgmental about this. Don't fool him.
And maybe a train ticket to Bangkok from Warsaw was cheaper than a ticket to Australia. And apart from all, Sir Charles, any relationship, anywhere in the world, requires a great deal of love, tolerance and understanding on both sides.
I hope this puts your comment in perspective.
Mother of Martin.
@Anita, I'm glad you responded and explained in an excellent way some of the problems of and about Martijn.
I hope for your sake that a number of commenters will now judge his behavior and your attempt to contact him less harshly.
Will you let us know in a comment as soon as contact has been reestablished?
Dear Angeline ten Have,
First and foremost, of course, I hope that your son is doing well and that he will be found quickly and safely. including Thailand 'can get a woman'.
My response was, so to speak, more intended to negate that prejudice and unjust qualification about Thai women in general.
Yours faithfully,
Sir Charles
Nice response ma'am, hopefully you will find your son this way, if I see him I will try to message you.
Well, I'm in the Netherlands, but if I saw him I'd report it anyway, here to the police, and in Bangkok at the embassy, and they'll have to decide what they do or don't do with that knowledge.
https://www.npo.nl/zembla/20-04-2016/VARA_101377868.
Here is a film about Martijn .
Personally, I have special feelings about it and why? See him on TV and then see a fairly normal young man, later on he started taking more drugs and medicines and therefore sometimes unreliable, by the way, he is (however crude it sounds ) in the right country because a large part of the youth here has alcohol or drug problems .
Then the following ::
At first it is said that he does not have a credit card with him, but only 550 euros in cash, to get to Bangkok via Russia, he managed to get cheap tickets, so a bright boy, it is also said that he speaks several languages speaks a bright boy again. He knows that there are beautiful and good women in both Russia and Thailand, probably via the internet, so again a bright boy. He left without a backpack and glasses, but see him in the photo at the airport with glasses. a year ago when Martijn still lived in the garden shed, I see a pretty smart mother (teacher) and now I see photos in the media of a worn-out and despondent woman while Martijn has only been gone for 3 days (blow things up a bit? ) I'm super curious to the ending..
Hi Henk,
It's a pity that you fill in so much and make assumptions (e.g. Martijn doesn't have a credit card...)
Sometimes there is simply a serious problem. Autism limits many people in some way in their lives, I also want to say that there are many degrees.
Everyone wants to be happy and healthy. Freedom of thought is a great good… Every human being prefers it to imprisonment…
Parents, by definition, love their children. And most parents get on well with it, too. But sometimes you are just tired in addition to a full-time job. Are children stinking annoying (at school they are cuties) and you would prefer to stick them behind the wallpaper.
If you are the mother of a child with Asperger's syndrome for whom you have been asking for care for years and the care system systematically looks the other way for whatever reason, then you don't have time to lock yourself in the toilet. to read Freud there.
Day in day out, year in year out, you can run the entire program alone next to your work, then sometimes the tricks are over for a while and the survival mechanism lets me down for a while and yes, if you haven't slept through the night in years , Martijn normally rings the doorbell because he is cold or has to pee, but this time it is the police who ring the doorbell in the middle of the night to say that Martijn is being held by the MP on the border with Belarus, well then dear Henk, then is the rack out for a while!
Then there is a deep sigh, without beginning and without end…
Without blowing up the business... And I just can't manage to play the sunshine in the house...
And like everyone else, I am very curious about the outcome…
greetings mother of Martin
Dear Angeline / Very Concerned Mother,
I don't know more than the serious media reports, but if I can serve something, I'd love to hear it. I live in Chachoengsao near the airport itself and have internal contacts at Suvarnabhumi airport Immigration and the so-called ICE team of cooperating countries stationed at Suvarnabhumi on a rotating basis. With camera images and correct background information, we should be able to move forward in the search.
Courage,
Johan
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This missing person case with Martijn is of course a drama for those involved such as parent(s). When I read a response from you today so full of assumptions and speculation. I've lived here for 12 years and know that foreigners sometimes turn into keyboard warriors. Let's first find Martijn and then analyze whether all your points are correct. I have autistic friends in my area and indeed: very bright. Going very far with a few hundred euros: yes, indeed possible.
I wonder why does such a boy have a passport, maybe it would have been smarter not to let him have an international travel document in his pocket.
But rather a copy of this document, then he probably would not have left the EU and then things are often a bit easier…
Hi T,
I totally agree with you. Martijn has not had an international travel document in all that time (he had a travel document for a week, because he wanted to make a trip - accompanied). It would have saved a lot of "care". It never occurred to me that a boy, who for years has not gone much further than the “cakes” at the Shell or “hamburgers” at the Jumbo, would embark on such a journey. He completely surprised me with his "action".
greetings mother of Martin
Did he learn to travel quickly, from the Jumbo to Bangkok. Don't mean it wrong, but bank card, where pinned? In Thailand. Or does he have a credit card even easier to trace. Booked hotels over the internet, does he have facebook? Just block it like that.
Let the boy do…
He is apparently a plant tractor with his own personality. Has no right to his own privacy?
Dear people,
Since Martijn's disappearance, I've been a bit involved in this case. I'm trying to help the family. Although perhaps well-intentioned, many comments here and on other pages make little sense. There is also a lot of incorrect information given, which I will not go into further.
Even "expert" psychologists have completely misdiagnosed Martijn.
I can't blame people here for thinking it's just "weird". And "weird" it is. For many people Martijn is “weird” For Martijn the whole world is “weird” Martijn hardly recognizes verbal communication. He lacks non-verbal communication almost entirely. I can imagine a lot of people can't handle that. No problem, just stay away from him and try to draw less hard conclusions. I wonder if a comment like: “I will certainly remain friendly, but then urgently inform him that” is meant seriously. You might as well try to explain Phythagoras' theorem to a housefly.
If people have seen Martijn, they can contact the previously given number of the NL embassy, 24 hours / 7 days, the mother of Martijn contacts or me.
I'm pretty easy to find via Google.
Thank you for your cooperation, and kind regards, Arjen Schroevers.
He is 24 years old, and even though he suffers from asparagus disease, was he able to make the journey here, get through customs, fill out his Thai IMMIGRATION card, what's the problem, that he could get aggressive, could end up wrong? I certainly know hordes of Dutch or Europeans who come here, have completely lost their way, and drunkenly pound everyone or pick a fight and end up in jail. He has done nothing criminal. Just leave this boy alone and see what happens. Looks like hunting game.
Willy, asparagus? And name three Dutch and three non-Dutch Europeans you know who are now in a Thai prison.