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Home » News from Thailand » TAT wants shorter quarantine period of 7 days in QXNUMX
TAT wants shorter quarantine period of 7 days in QXNUMX
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Tags: Thailand entry conditions, Quarantine, Tourism, Vaccination
The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) hopes that a shorter quarantine for foreign tourists in the fourth quarter can boost tourism.
TAT Governor Yuthasak Supasorn said the current outbreak is more serious and is lasting longer than expected. It has led to strict measures to reduce the number of new infections.
Thailand has tried to welcome international tourists again through the Phuket sandbox project. Between July 1 and August 12, this resulted in just under 20.000 tourists. Only 55 visitors or 0,28% tested positive for Covid-19.
In addition to Phuket, more destinations will open in October for fully vaccinated tourists, but that will not do much. The most effective method of luring foreign tourists is to shorten the quarantine period across the board.
“If the current outbreak is somewhat contained, we will propose a plan to relax quarantine rules not only in Phuket but across the country to generate more travel. More and more countries have started to shorten the mandatory quarantine period to seven days,” said Mr. Yuthasak.
Source: Bangkok Post
Maybe someone who really knows about tourism should tell the TAT
1. the holidaymakers are not waiting for a quarantine period; can't quite help feeling that the majority of current sandbox customers don't really fall under the category of 'vacationers';
2. the real holidaymakers also want a HOLIDAY environment where there is something to do, where you can eat out and go out. Eating in your room and watching TV or a movie at home is also possible.
Well Chris, I'm surprised that a significant number of Americans went to Phuket.
If not vacationers!
1. The COE imposed by Thailand as the only country seems to me to be the biggest stumbling block.
I don't see this being abolished any time soon.
2. Even though you are fully vaccinated with an MRNA vaccine, still several tests and mandatory quarantine, even if it's a week. That's not a vacation.
3. If tested positive, compulsory admission at your own expense, even if you are not ill.
No other country demands this.
Many Americans have family ties in Thailand from the time of the Vietnam War. Of the 20.000 guests who have rushed to Phuket since July 1, only 4000 were tourists. The rest moved into Thailand after the mandatory period of residence.
In fact, even a day of quarantine would be too much for me. Do they understand that themselves? It is understandable that they want to enforce some regulations, but which tourist is going to be quarantined somewhere for fun. Plus all the restrictions that are already there. Walking with a face mask at 35 degrees, for example. No Thailand, and any other country that tries to attract tourism... that's not how you get there..
Sorry, go to Thailand every winter, but with the measure now in Thailand I haven't seen me, will look for something else to travel
I want to go to a restaurant in the evening and drink a beet in some bar…
is this possible in Phuket now? I do not think so
is there still a curfew in phuket ? I thought so
you can't go on vacation like that...
No, there is no curfew but all bars are closed and restaurants are allowed to open until 21pm some until 23pm but alcohol may not be served with meals or separately. So not so touristy.
I read “If the current outbreak is somewhat contained, we will propose a plan to relax quarantine rules”, I interpret this as follows:
“We're going to propose a plan” and then, who's to say it will be accepted? By the way, speaking of plans please / please stop that, how many plans have not been reviewed in recent weeks / months, sounds and is unbelievable and goes from bad to bad.
“the outbreak is under control” but what is under control? that's very elastic.
Do they really think in Thailand that everyone is obediently waiting with packed suitcases for the green light, to then travel en masse? I don't think so, holidays are planned weeks/months in advance.
Just say, "from December 01, 2021, anyone who is fully vaccinated can travel to Thailand and travel through without quarantine" and then the bookings and their income will be guaranteed anyway and not like those Sandbox forecasts (albeit on the condition that the colors in both Thailand if these of the departing countries do not turn dark).
Philip,
The colors in Thailand have been dark to very dark for several months now, and they will only get darker for the time being. The same has recently been true for the colors in Europe, and with autumn and therefore the expected higher virus circulation in Europe, the colors there will also become darker rather than paler.
And last but not least: tourists may already have been vaccinated, but that does not provide any protection for the local population, who will not be able to achieve a significant vaccination rate (70% and preferably more) until the middle of next year at the earliest.
Traveling into Thailand without restrictions will probably not be possible in the coming years, but those who still hope that it would still work in 2021 are very naive (or desperate) in my opinion.
That is very sad and frustrating indeed. But it is the way it is, and for the time being there is not the slightest prospect of improvement, even quite the contrary.
Color
You are 100% right Cor, but, color of origin/destination aside, what is the difference between a quarantine period of 7 or 14 days and no quarantine?
I (understand us as tourists) can just as well, where ever, get infected on day 1 as on day 9 or 21 and infect others, so what's the point of that quarantine period? I keep wondering this, a year ago I would have agreed with them, but the situation is now the other way around.
In case I get infected, I will most likely not have to be hospitalized while those who infect me and who have not been vaccinated are at risk, that much is certain and that number is, as you rightly say, still too high, this should drop to 20 at max. 30%.
That is why the government must be consistent, either closing the doors completely until 70 to 80% are vaccinated or, for economic reasons, opening the doors, e.g. from 01 Dec 2021, without quarantine, because as said before those 7 or 14 days will not minimize risks, let alone eliminate them.
Let's hope that they will now do everything they can to vaccinate the population as much as possible (no more games) and then take the risk and the courage to gradually rebuild the local tourism sector by the end of this year to work by attracting tourists “without” quarantine obligations (if I may quote Martin Luther King )
In any case, it is a choice between the plague and the cholera, but continuing with the two is not an option in my opinion.
Dear Philippe
There is a lot of fairness and understanding in your response, and I can follow a lot of your reasoning and argument.
But there is 1 huge thorny point for me. The sandbox project proved very recently that, despite all procedures, 0,28% of incoming travelers still turned out to be infected.
This proves that a test on departure and with fully vaccinated people is inconclusive.
That seems logical to me: a latent infection can pass into the effective (whether or not symptomatic) infection phase during the day of travel itself.
If that infection evolution actually happens during the travel day itself, the snowball will of course start rolling again.
For these reasons, I consider it very likely that the measures will evolve into a worldwide standard monitoring procedure in which, irrespective of individual vaccination situations, ad hoc tests in combination with (probably much shorter and simpler) isolations will become the norm in the coming years.
And that will probably remain the case until active curatives are available worldwide.
Trust (read here: belief in the vaccine) is good, but control (here being the ability to effectively fight the disease) is always better.
I think even the biggest deniers of the problem are now acknowledging that the problem is there, and that we had better learn to live with it.
I think that accepting that minimum monitoring procedure can be an important step in this direction.
One thing seems certain to me: completely free travel as before March 2020 may never be possible again, but in any case it will not be possible for the next few years.
Cot
As many of us know, Thai people are magically inclined. Even modern young people. Everyone of us has seen a young couple sitting with a futures teller (preferably also a fortune teller) in a market or in a park, who has been asked how favorable the relationship and future will look like. Of course with always a lucky answer. Formulas such as: the quarantine will last 7 days are also intended as such in that sense. A magical formula after which strategy and policy are not necessary. The only advice is to wait. The 4th quarter is still a long way off and if things do not happen as they think should happen, events can always be pointed out that stood in the way of the desired situation.
The TAT wants so much. This club keeps shouting the most unrealistic things, probably to satisfy the wishes of the tourism industry on the one hand, and on the other hand to give itself a reason to exist and to give tourists a little hope before they turn their back on Thailand for good.
7, 10 or 14 days of quarantine, it's not going to work dear people of TAT! No tourist will do that, only pensioners, expats and foreign relatives of Thai nationals. That group is limited and partly already in Thailand. There is therefore little or no new “increase”.
The new reality is that Covid-19 is here to stay. Thailand will therefore have to vaccinate first and then admit vaccinated people without restrictions. Any other scenario is pointless (for the Thai tourism industry as well as tourists).
Why shouldn't the borders be open for those people who have been double vaccinated? So don't wait for vaccination of the entire population.... There will be new variants anyway so there will always be a risk just like now with flu sars mers etc
Isn't it also the TAT that only wanted super rich tourists in Thailand? Wasn't it the TAT who wanted to make Thailand a favorite destination for people who wanted to use some CBD oil? How unworldly people they are who are champions at making themselves look ridiculous. But maybe that's the nice thing about Thailand..Amazing Thailand.
As mentioned above, 0,23% of Sandbox visitors tested positive during 12 days of their stay. Because everyone is allowed to move freely on the island for the rest of the time after an initial negative test on day 1, it may therefore be good that a number of infections are from local contacts and not imported. There were 475 local infections in the last week alone. So who is a threat to Thailand now? They need to stop aiming for 0 infections and accept that sometimes an infection can happen and that fully vaccinated tourists are a low risk.
If I didn't live in Thailand, it would no longer be attractive for me as a holiday destination.
Have been staying in Thailand for some time now and unfortunately see the situation getting worse.
An example is that for the wonderful "SandBox" initiative now in Phuket's former prison
complexes are being prepared to receive (a)symptomatically tested 'holidaymakers' as well as the population.
So that is a tourist trip that is unparalleled, but unfortunately it is mandatory with a (multiple) mandatory test that turns out positive. Think of it as a wheel of fortune that you can spin yourself during your quarantine period. It must be a very necessary journey before you want to run this risk.
Locally, people speak of an extension of measures until the beginning of December in order to be able to start the high season. Only very sorry for the local population who do not regularly receive a (government) salary in the meantime that this is already over and done with. Since Corona will also be active afterwards and this government does not want to take any risks (on protests?) A normal situation will take a very long time to come. It is a pity that Thailand can copy everything except a sound and timely (vaccination) policy.
Only 55 visitors or 0,28% tested positive for Covid-19.
Has it ever been investigated how this is possible?
Is that on the first test? Or the 2nd cq. 3rd test?
Only with test 1 can it be said that the virus came along via the person.
Then Thai embassies have not done their job properly. A COE issued where the mandatory PCR test has not been met. Antigen test taken and accepted? So should not occur.
The antigen test and certificate are not accepted worldwide as a travel test.
In principle, you should then separate all people from the plane, QSA.
With a 2nd or 3rd test in sandbox, it is therefore possible that the tourist has come into contact with a local source and is therefore punished and transferred to ASQ.
I have been informed that a Thai women have traveled to Thailand and were positive upon entry. One from Pakistan and another from Africa. Even one on a domestic flight, boarded in BK and tested positive in Khonkaen. Ashemenou, my clog is breaking.
Yes, this virus produces a lot of fun headless chicken moments.