Illustration: Bangkok Post

Exporters in Thailand are concerned about the price increases of the Thai fortune against the US dollar. They therefore hope that a new government will stabilize the volatile baht so that it aligns with the currencies of regional and trading partners.

The strong Baht is bad for the export but also for tourism. Products from Thailand are becoming too expensive and tourists may choose other countries for a holiday.

According to chairman Ghanyapad of the Thai National Shipper's Council, exporters are most concerned about the continued appreciation of the baht. If the strong baht remains uncorrected, export growth targets cannot be met this year.

Source: Bangkok Post

15 responses to “Strong Thai Baht bad for export and tourism”

  1. Ger Korat says up

    Export, strong Thai baht, yes all nice. The other side is imports. Well a strong baht is good for imports because it is cheaper than with a weaker baht. In January 2019, Thailand had a trade deficit of USD 4 billion, namely an export of USD 19 billion and an import of USD 23 billion. The largest deficit since April 2013. Now everyone is also aware of the other side, so don't complain that the Thai baht is so strong. In the nineties this was only strong, converted (from guilders to the Euro) around 27 baht and now around 36 baht for a Euro. And let's hope that the trade deficit does not increase or persist, because that is detrimental to Thailand.

    Info in the link:https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/balance-of-trade

  2. fred says up

    The value of a currency is the barometer of a country's economy. The Thai economy is growing and booming and as a result this is reflected in the appreciation of their currency. A stable economic condition…political stability and social peace. They can only dream of those things in Europe.
    Follow history and you will find that strong economic powers always had the strongest currencies. The stronger the currency, the cheaper everything becomes for a country.
    The baht and many South East Asian currencies will only get stronger over time. The future is here and the rest of the world is the past.

    • janbeute says up

      What am I reading here dear Fred.
      The Thai economy is growing and booming.
      Have I missed something lately, as I see and hear here in my direct living environment, there is little to boom.
      Rather the opposite if you know what I mean.

      Jan Beute.

    • Rob V says up

      Dear Fred, elsewhere you even wrote that the TH economy is booming. That's quite an exaggeration. Thailand's economy is growing at about 4%. That's not bad (growth has been 3-4% in recent years), but less than most other Asian countries (growing 6-8% or more).

      Economic stability is good, but growth is lagging behind. This is due, among other things, to a decline in growth in the major economies (trade war) and Thai household debts. The strong baht also throws a spanner in the works with growth. There is also a fear that it will be difficult to make the jump from the middle economically developed to the higher. That it has now reached this level of development is trapped in lower growth.

      By way of comparison: For the Netherlands, growth is about 2%, better than the European average, which is 0,5 percentage points lower.

      http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30361836

      http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/business/30363467

      http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/business/30357827

      https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/12/19/cpb-groei-nederlandse-economie-over-het-hoogtepunt-heen-a3126387

  3. PD says up

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    ”The abnormal height of the Thai Bath'.. is not only bad for Thailand and exports, but certainly for the foreign elderly who come from the Euro countries, with an AOW (tje) without a pension (and there are many who do not health insurance) who are permanently resident here! And the poor population, who miss out on their income (and you see the poverty surrounding you in this group) because they are being diverted to neighboring countries. And to think that… that the Thai Bath are artificially 'upheld' by 5 very wealthy Elite families for their own gain' ”Normally… I was not going to respond anymore, or to post columns, because I know from research to report that there are a large number of negative inciting posters who have never set foot on Thai soil” and that a lot is also posted while the poster himself is no longer fully able to distinguish the letters on his keyboard . And only spit gloating for the sake of entertainment' to find themselves a little important behind the lonely Dutch geraniums ” and jealousy and envy play a major role! because they don't have the balls to make something of their pathetic existence” ( pathetic Vinegar pissers' )

    ”We, as expats abroad, benefit more from larger venues, such as associations that are committed to representing the interests of all expats. Only, such an association does exist, but it represents interests from all over the world. “We should actually have an association that represents the interests of expats in Thailand. And I do not mean a forum like Thaivisa, there are often only announcements and explanations given about certain matters (also useful) but that is not an agency that will shake up an Embassy, ​​or Thai government or foreign affairs. There are associations of expats here, but strangely enough you never hear anything from that side about showing up for expats who get into trouble because of the low exchange rate of many currencies compared to the high exchange rate of the Thai Bath. They are more clubs of expats who come together periodically, discuss all sorts of things, go somewhere together or have dinner and that's it. "Surely there must also be members among them who are almost watering their lips", right? And yet, to date, there has been no initiative that manages to organize foreigners into a kind of union with the aim of opposing the issue or making the issue a subject for discussion with the Thai government, and to make them realize that stoic regulations in the field of visas applying for is no longer in keeping with this time, 400 / 800 Bath is not very old-fashioned and is still based on a situation that you still got 1 Bath for 50 euro. (or any other currency for that matter) It's not just about the Dutch! but millions of victims”

    “The entire Embassy, ​​if from now on we can just have our passports created at the municipality here, or even better, if we can just apply for everything digitally (why do we even have that citizen service number) then they can do away with the whole mess for me. . All other matters, such as mobilizing and informing companies that want to establish themselves in Thailand, can all be done from the Netherlands. In any case, the cards are on the table as follows: Given the recent history and the problems that the Dutch encounter here in Thailand, the Embassy does nothing with the argument that they have no influence on the development of the course. But this completely ignores the core of the problem, namely putting pressure on or entering into discussions with the Thai government about the stoic legislation in the field of Immigration. 'They can certainly exert their influence there.

    “Elections are coming up, then the cards will be shuffled again here in Thailand, the more influential are trying to get even more influence, the Thais themselves might be back in protest marching mode etc etc. So who is going to care about expats for the time being being in financial trouble here…….right….no one. That we have largely helped (and still do) to keep the economy going, they don't care at all, thank you and goodbye. Recently read a study that if we all pulled the plug here together, an economic decline of around 20% could be expected. Not to mention all the grief and misery many families will face here. That, for example, many hotels, garages, shopping malls will be closed, that is certain, almost the entire Immigration is on the street because no one is coming anymore. In short, the consequences will be drastic for this country, and then I go back to my earlier statement… they don't care at all”

    'One should be glad that the Thai have a calm and friendly character by nature (they also suffer from the large financial differences here) because otherwise a popular uprising would have started here a long time ago. Go to any village in the countryside and you will see the huge differences in wealth. The government doesn't do anything about that either, well, an occasional contribution of 100/200 Bath for the poorest, but that really doesn't solve their problem. Unfortunately, no one will lose any sleep over expats like all of us here, unless all expats unite to 1 stage. Only then it may be possible to convince a government that things should be adjusted.
    Take that 800.000 Bath rule, which was originally created to support you in case of a medical emergency. But if you have good and expensive health insurance, for example, then I think that measure could be dropped”. We are also unfairly lumped together with expats who come here for the first time, same regulations. I think, but who am I,.. that for expats who have proven to have lived here for more than 10 years' without problems, whether it be in the field of justice or problems with paying the hospital bill or causing accidents, etc. that the regulations should be relaxed for this group.! Someone who has just entered and can prove that he has an income of 65 Bath will also receive his annual visa. It is not checked whether that man has a criminal history, whether he has health insurance, whether he has a drinking or drug problem, no, just the same visa as we are issued. We didn't know that either….butrrrrrr………we have proven in recent years that we are on the right side. That's the big difference. But unfortunately no distinction is made in this respect and we, just like an entrant, have to account for ourselves as a criminal every 000 days. And especially on these last mentioned items, an Embassy or Expat Association could make a strong case. So the Embassy's excuse that unfortunately they cannot do anything about the currency does not make sense, that is actually without looking further, just keep things off and abandon us victims” What if millions of old European elderly return must? to their Fatherland', without any prospects for the future' … Prevention is Better' than cure! is the well-known saying, and politics is foresight (??) Yet'

    PD

    • Leo Th. says up

      An embassy is a diplomatic representation of one country in another country. The main functions are the care for communication and negotiations between the mutual countries, as well as the promotion of trade contacts. And the embassy acts, among other things, as a point of contact for citizens of the home country who are staying in the host country and who have run into problems through their own fault or otherwise. The consular section provides services related to the issuance of travel documents and civil status formalities. But an embassy is of course not a representative of citizens, who have voluntarily chosen to leave the Netherlands in this case for a long-term stay in Thailand. The foreign exchange market worldwide is always in flux, caused by numerous factors. It is unthinkable and highly undesirable that an embassy could exert any influence on this, and, according to your opinion, should even plead with the Thai government for a depreciation of the Baht. There are a number of conditions attached to a stay in Thailand. If due to a weak Euro or a strong Baht you can no longer meet certain requirements for residence, that is very unfortunate for the person concerned. But those are the rules that the Thai government has set and they will not be accountable to the embassy for this. The embassy therefore has no influence whatsoever on this. In addition to the currently unfavorable exchange rate, most Dutch pensioners in Thailand are also affected by the fact that the pension funds have not increased benefits for years. But the embassy has no influence on that either. It is best to understand your argument that you think it is unreasonable to possibly be 'forced' to return to your home country, but the Thai government will not care about that. They already have their hands full fighting poverty for their own citizens. And the Dutch government will be the worst that Dutch 'elderly' should have to return without prospects for the future. You can also hardly expect them to provide a bonus to continue your stay in the Thai 'paradise'. Or is it?

    • Sir Charles says up

      Well, when the € was around 50 baht, many people jokingly called you stupid because you chose not to stay permanently in Thailand for the time being, but opted for, for example, the '8 at 4' arrangement so that you did not leave all the ships behind to want to burn you.
      'Just stay in that cold frog country with all its rules' was chanted, among other things, but it is often precisely those people who now complain bitterly and want to crawl back if necessary...

  4. ruud says up

    The moment foreigners start to unite to form a union, I think that there will be a problem among the members with the next extension of the extension of stay.
    You didn't really think that the Thai government let foreigners tell it what it can and cannot do, do you?

    Is the amount of 800.000 in an account unreasonable for an application for an extension of stay in Thailand, and if so, why?
    Take my case of a retirement visa.
    When I extend my stay, I must have 800.000 Baht, but that could decrease over the course of a year.
    If I become ill or become demented, who is responsible for my well-being?
    Who will pay the costs of the hospital, who will nurse me if I cannot save myself, or possibly arrange and pay for my funeral/cremation?

    Can the Thai government then expect money to be available to pay for those costs, and possibly to put you on a plane to your country of birth?
    Yes, it can be hard for people with only state pension and possibly a small pension, but ultimately the Thai government is not responsible for those people, nor for their financial position.
    These are the result of choices people make themselves.

    Those choices may have been made years ago and the circumstances may have been different, but ultimately you are responsible for the consequences.

    I would also like to note that in the past the amounts for people who already had an extension have not been increased.
    It is therefore not the case that the Thai government has not taken into account the people who were already in Thailand.
    That is of course no guarantee for the present.

    But something surprises me.
    Why should the Thai government be responsible for the financial position of the expats, and what exactly do you expect from them?
    I don't know exactly when the amount went to 800.000 Baht for retirement, but that was definitely a long time ago.
    Would that amount now be (much) lower if they had increased the old amount annually with the Thai inflation?
    I don't think inflation is an unreasonable starting point.
    And if the Dutch government raises taxes on the state pension again, should the Thai government also solve this?
    Because let's face it, a (large) part of the problems stems from the abolition of the tax credit for people who have moved to Thailand.

    I find the last bit about being lumped in with new incoming expats lame.
    Then those new expats should probably join another “union”, because yours does not represent their interests.
    There the general problem that you talk about all the time and for which a “union” must be formed, suddenly turns into your personal problem.

    I find that 90-day notification only a minor inconvenience, because I plan that on a day when I also go shopping in the city, or vice versa.
    And I don't feel treated like a criminal, because I'm always treated nicely.

  5. Yan says up

    Nice story, PD. But as you rightly point out, nothing changes. And that won't happen either. The protectionist attitude of the Thais is solely based on fear that the Westerners will take over here. On the other hand, I would also like to point out that if the European countries had adopted the same attitude, the Western countries would have been much more proactive. The social and economic system would not have been eroded by the fortune-seeking migrants who do not have to prove a guarantee and "get everything".

    • PD says up

      'Nicely formulated Yan' And Ja' you are absolutely right!
      and yes'.. it is better to be a fortune hunter in the Netherlands than an elderly person!
      There are millions lying around, and those elderly people who made the Netherlands great are the easy victims and damned. Those elderly people who have left the Netherlands to make something of their short existence arrive in Thailand with money. Money (AOW) that they have worked for for 40 to 50 years or more, and have paid for this themselves as a savings pot for their old age! And the government playing Santa Claus, giving away all its money to foreigners? So there are double standards. Yet' .. and the Dutch are not taken seriously!! And the tidal wave of fortune seekers gets this way... Bed Bread and Bath Or they continue to litigate endlessly to force their will through! or try it in another European country. Backed by expensive smart left wing lawyers, which alone costs taxpayers millions! We can forget that here in Thailand! And we don't ask that either! Most elderly people want to rest in their old age and enjoy the short life for a while. The agreements made of 400 / 800 are money that is outdated from a period when everything was still normal with our reliable Gulden! No one can see into the future, but... they have made very big mistakes, of which the citizens of Europe have suffered. It was forced down our throats. Is it strange that they do not compensate for their mistake a little? ? Once again.. It is a small effort to make this a topic of discussion that major problems will occur if the situation continues like this." That can be predicted by any coffee grounds viewer, given that the Euro currency is dying. its problems. It is not without reason that England wants to leave the declining European Union, with all its efforts to come out of it somewhat reasonably. At least they were smart enough to keep their expensive pound, and wanted that damn Euro currency not! If there are problems with Muslims in the Netherlands, they will sit around the table to achieve a satisfactory result." Then it can suddenly be discussed? They are also in negotiations for the Dutch, who will soon have to deal with Brexit. Why not with the rest of the world, where Dutch and other victims of their wrong policies want to live out their last days? And Yes'.. it was/is a Choice'.. a choice between loneliness or having another woman or/and family around you!! Every individual has the right to live where he/she wants”… after 50 years of faithful hard work! at the end of life!

      'It is always those who stay at home who react negatively' These are always typical sadistic egoistic jealous remarks from the Netherlands! Written without any thinking and feeling of compassion. But come to Thailand sometime to play the beast there' or.. they have never had Thai soil under their feet!

      No' .. these are just jealous and envious statements! They don't have the balls to emigrate, and would rather sit alone behind the dry geraniums, rotting away and parking in frustration, and they get off at the thought that fellow human beings can get into trouble. That's what they call pleasure worship. Glorious and inhumane! ( Stop that!! )
      I'm not waiting for stupid criticism but for a solution!! for thousands of victims!

      PD

      • ruud says up

        You try to blame everyone for your problems.
        If you emigrated to Thailand with no more than a state pension, if I read it that way, you have been too optimistic,
        Thailand used to be a cheap country, but with increasing prosperity, prices are also rising.
        And they do that faster than in the Netherlands, and also faster than the increase in your state pension.

        Furthermore, the world does not revolve around the Netherlands, and the Netherlands cannot dictate the law to Thailand.
        Especially not because there are many more countries in the world than the Netherlands.
        Why should the Netherlands be able to prescribe the law to Thailand, and not South Africa or Japan, for example?
        Are those countries then not allowed to say anything about the immigration rules, or the exchange rate of the Thai Baht?

        That every individual has the right to live where he wants is nonsense.
        In Thailand, the Thai government is in charge, and in Australia, the Australian.
        You might also have solved your loneliness in the Netherlands.

        Furthermore, my home is in Thailand, and I would like to sympathize with your situation, but when I think of the billions of citizens of the world who live in much worse conditions than you, I fear that you don't end up high on my sympathy list.

      • Cornelis says up

        Incredible how you put together your 'arguments'. Muslims, Brexit, the Euro vs. the apparently 'better' British Pound – which, by the way, has lost much more to the Baht than that damned Euro – fortune seekers, left-wing lawyers, etc., etc. What on earth does that have to do with the strength of the Thai baht, which is largely on its own growth based? How did you get the idea that the Netherlands could do something about this?
        You make choices in your life, and they turn out good or – through no fault of your own or not – bad. You are responsible for that yourself.

      • Sir Charles says up

        That is very presumptuous by you that those who do not want to emigrate do not have the balls to do so, are also jealous and envious.
        Everyone has their personal circumstances for not wanting to do that.
        To emigrate or not to emigrate, both have advantages and disadvantages, and you, as the person responsible, make the decision whether to do it or not.
        For the time being, several opt for the '8 to 4' and it may just be the case to choose Thailand or the Netherlands in the future, depending on the circumstances that are subject to change.

        Oh so easy to jump into the victim role afterwards and express stupid inhumane criticism of others as if that will bring a solution, talk about gloating…

  6. your says up

    Indeed, it would be good for expats to come together more and thematize and put on the agenda the problems they face. I have been coming to Thailand/Roi et. for more than 13 years now, 3x 2 months a year. Married to a Thai. Have a house there with small rice land, 3 rye. I'm doing fine, but I look around
    that my neighbors can no longer afford the increasing costs for daily needs. And they also see the large differences in prosperity.... They easily borrow money from family and friends and easily obtain an additional loan from many banks at a high cost. And the statements and overviews are often very unclear or not handed over on paper at all. Many I speak to do not know how much money still needs to be repaid over how many years and at what interest rate.
    Below are listed which banks are the best, cheapest, with the best conditions... Only the amount per month that must be paid. Yes, there are years of debt... for many. It looks hopeless... because Thais, just like non-Thais, want to buy/have first...
    I notice that foreigners actually have no rights. Yes, the right to spend money. That you are not allowed to do anything actively, not as a volunteer and not even to help your neighbor for free, when it comes down to it. And of course do not own land or house... And of course are seen as a cash cow... This way, if you don't know any better or if your wife doesn't buy it, you pay more for the items. Get a discount with difficulty.
    I like being in Thasiland, but I am concerned about what will happen if the policy there remains unchanged. With high rate Th bt etc.

  7. pyotrpatong says up

    Proletarians of all kinds….. oh no expats. Can someone explain to me what stoic regulation is? Thank you in advance.


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