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Home » News from Thailand » Nida Poll: Thanathorn best suited as Prime Minister of Thailand
Nida Poll: Thanathorn best suited as Prime Minister of Thailand
Posted in News from Thailand
Tags: Nida, Prayut Chan-o-cha, Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit
A survey by Nida Poll shows that more and more Thai people dislike the current Prime Minister Prayut. A large majority thinks Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit of the FFP will make a better prime minister. No fewer than 31,42 percent of the respondents hold that opinion.
In addition, Future Forward is believed to be the best party to lead the country. Support for Prayut has plummeted to 23,74 percent and number 3 was Ms. Sudarat Keyuraphan of Pheu Thai.
What does not emerge from the research, but what I hear in my environment is that even a growing group of people in Thailand want to see Taksin Shinawatra back on the political scene. Apparently everything is better than what is there now….
Source: Bangkok Post
To dislike a politician (in this case Prayut, although I leave the interpretation to the writer) still and apparently does not mean that one also votes for another politician.
There are countless examples in the world: Trump, Modi, Duterte, Johnson, Bolsonaro.
In recent elections in Khon Kaen, Prayut's side won.
The elites have apparently found a formula to get the middle classes and the poor to vote against their own interests….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I_ZhGHxnHQ&fbclid=IwAR3ZvnTU0ckiorBUg-DrO0OqWfPvzRg1Z10OkpnhfgXcvC_hpMoI9Yg__Ds
The elites have apparently found a formula to get the middle classes and the poor to vote against their own interests…
…..and apparently countless groups in many countries have rebelled against it. Iraq (500 dead), Iran (how many dead?), Algeria, Hong Kong, Sudan, Lebanon, Chile, Columbia.
I was talking about elections…
The last sentence is the only one that should have been in the article.
That's what 99,9% of the common people want.
The jet set excepted.
A multimillionaire forms a party.
He puts a handsome capital into it.
He's not doing it to make money.
I don't think he's doing it to help the voters either
So why would he do this?
Power?
Think so.
People never learn.
Well said. Of course everything revolves around power so that the legislation is designed in such a way that it benefits capital and the preservation of power.
The best support for credibility would be to simply give away capital. Not in a Thaksin way with money from taxes, but simply from equity.
Many a foreigner also does this for a Thai resident, so it can sometimes be copied.
Many farang are seen as stingy, but there are Thai who surpass it by far.
He is certainly looking for power, the power to get normal democracy and human rights off the ground in Thailand. Thanathorn has been involved in championing basic rights since a young age. Photos have already been circulated where he participates in protests as a student.
Quote:
“Throughout his studies, Thanathorn was involved with various charities and NGOs calling for social and economic reforms in Thailand, including Friends of the People and the Assembly of the Poor.[7] During this time, Thanathorn campaigned for the land and compensation rights of villagers affected by the Pak Mun Dam in Ubon Ratchathani Province.”
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanathorn_Juangroongruangkit
Khaosod named him person of the year:
“But business wasn't his only passion – Thanathorn is well known among his peers for participating in NGO works, political protests, and environment campaigns.”
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019/12/26/our-person-of-the-year-2019-thanathorn-juangroongruangkit/
Not every millionaire is out for self-enrichment and a me-me attitude. Unfortunately many of the Thai politicians who were and are in power are. A good part of the current government therefore stinks quite a bit. But there are also people who strive for a better society, although you need capital to get your party off the ground. Smaller new parties (take the commoners party) with social-liberal democratic visions have not succeeded in the past elections. Future forward has also had many bears on its way since it was founded just over a year ago:
https://www.thailandblog.nl/achtergrond/nieuwe-lente-nieuw-geluid-future-forward-partij/
I would advise you to first analyze calmly and not immediately judge based on the gut. Consult various sources and thus make a puzzle into a more complete picture. But people never learn…?
Response intended @HansNL at 12.38.
In the election campaign, Thanatorn said he would like an absolute majority in parliament to make changes easier and faster. I call that a dictatorial democracy: the most beloved and apparently only conceivable form of 'democracy' in this country.
In my opinion, democracy is NOT getting the absolute majority, then doing what you think is right and not listening to minorities (as all governments have done so far) but TOGETHER, also with your political opponents, getting things done that benefit as many citizens as possible. come good. Differences of opinion should be cherished, not ignored, denounced or suppressed. Not if your name is Prayut, not if your name is Thaksin, and not if your name is Thanatorn.
Indeed, Chris. Now it is the case that in all bodies, in companies, courts, universities and parliaments, the majority ultimately decides, hopefully after a fruitful discussion. For example, the Supreme Court can sentence someone to death by a vote of 5 to 4.
As far as the Thai parliament is concerned, a proposal is first discussed in a committee dedicated to that subject, for example the constitutional amendment committee. Every party can have their say there, all opinions are discussed, and I understand from the press that things sometimes get fierce.
The (adjusted) proposal then goes to the general meeting of parliament, where all members can also make their voices heard. Then a vote is taken. Nothing is perfect in this world, but this system is better than when a very small group decides everything without any openness, like in a dictatorship. The dictatorship of the 'khon die', the good people.
Most countries have a representative (indirect) democracy. It often happens that SAMEN political parties make decisions. The Netherlands has that tradition, and is praised for its consensus and polder culture. Belgium works similarly according to coalition models, so does Germany, France less so, the UK not at all. We're not talking about the US. (Whether Thailand is a democracy at all is debatable if you see how the election of March last took place, from the start of Prayuth dated May 2014. What many have already forgotten: in the beginning there was a military takeover, a democratically elected prime minister was dismissed, a curfew was imposed, plus a ban on association and expression.)
In a democracy, a political party DOES try to win an absolute majority, with allies if necessary, in order to leave opponents behind. Then you will benefit as many citizens as possible, in order to receive the final accounts via elections. If you succeeded, then you can go for a certain period, if you did not succeed, then it is up to your opponents.
Of course, Thanatorn wants the absolute majority. He can do that by entering into coalitions. In Thailand an absolute condition because of the large number of political currents and parties. In that respect, Thailand is very similar to the Netherlands.
But it seems that he has not been awarded it all. Which doesn't bother you, I have the impression. Scared for your ass, I guess.
In a good democracy, a government tries to get 100% of the MPs behind it.
I don't believe there are many good democracies in the world.
51% is considered enough.
Less is also allowed, as long as there are enough abstainers.
Chris, which party does not want to get a majority vote from the people? Democracy does not come in one ready-made form, so this can be done in various ways: via a coalition (such as in the Netherlands or Belgium) or without a coalition (see, among others, the UK and the US, where usually 1 party has a majority in 1 or both chambers). Of course, Thanathorn would have been happy to form a government and in these elections it was clear that no party would (could) obtain an absolute majority.
Future Forward was therefore aware that in the best case scenario a coalition could be formed. See therefore the attempted talks with, among others, Phua Thai and the Democrats. Although they and we all knew that even then it would be a tough job to defeat the junta parties. Due to the not exactly democratic basis of this regime, the pro-democracy parties have therefore not succeeded in establishing a majority coalition. This is based, among other things, on the rather dubious design of the constitution and the equally dubious elections (take, among other things, the remarkable explanation/choice of the seat formula chosen by the Electoral Council appointed by the former junta). With the current set-up of Thailand's parliament, senate, Electoral Council and other bodies 'independently selected by the junta', it lacks a reasonable representation of the voice(s) of the people on a democratic level.
In any case, given Thanathorn's past (struggle for grassroots movements, etc.) and Future Forward's proposals (wanting to put an end to the disadvantaged position of minorities in Thailand), I do not have the impression that Future Forward / Thanathorn does not take minority voices into account. parliament would like to hold. Thanathorn and like-minded people fight for better representation of the people. In my book that's called collaboration. I'll keep my eyes open for attempted oppression by anyone, I haven't seen it yet at Future Forward. You hint at it, but without any concrete evidence showing that Future Forward does not stand for such democratic principles. Vigilance is good, but suggestive finger pointing needs better substantiation.
Well…. It can't get much worse than it is now.... !!