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Home » News from Thailand » 'The high-speed line from Bangkok – Nong Khai will be ready in 4 years'
'The high-speed line from Bangkok – Nong Khai will be ready in 4 years'
Posted in News from Thailand
Tags: Bangkok, Swedish Hälso- och sjukvårdslagen, Nong Khai
According to the Bangkok Post, the first high-speed train will zoom from Bangkok to Nong Khai, in the extreme north-east of Thailand, in 4 years' time at 250 km per hour. Via the new Thai – Lao friendship bridge, the HSL will connect to the HSL in Laos to Vientiane.
Yesterday, the cabinet was updated on the progress of the 608 km long train project which, when the HSL is a fact, will provide work for nine hundred people. China, the financier of the project, will train the Thai personnel.
Thailand invests in civil works China installs the operational system. The construction is divided into two phases: the first, a 253 km stretch between Bangkok and Nakhon Ratchasima, and the second of 355 km between Nakhon Ratchasima and Nong Khai.
Since December 2017, work has been underway on a route between Klang Dong and Pang Asok in Nakhon Ratchasima. The work is 45 percent complete.
When the line is completed, you can travel from Bangkok to Nong Khai in 3 hours, which now takes another 11 hours.
The first 253 km route between Bangkok and Nakon ratchasima will be contracted out to 22 subcontractors.
It has not yet been announced what the final train journey will cost the traveler.
Whether this will be competitive with respect to the aircraft? An interesting development!
It has already been announced what it will cost, namely 500 baht for a trip Bangkok – Nakhon Ratchasima. The current buses on this route cost about 200 baht.
Even if it will be competitive with the bus, it would already be a major progress. Of course that will also have to be the case with the price. Now people spend 11 hours on the train or on the bus.
The plane is still too expensive for many Thais. Furthermore, Nong Khai will provide an easy connection for tourists, especially for Chinese by train.
Yes, who is on the bus? These are the ones with little money. Now it is already the case that it takes about 1 1/2 hours by plane from Udon, 700 baht, or in 1 hour from Khon Kaen for 700 baht. So why take the train instead of the plane because the train is more expensive and also takes twice as long to travel. A ticket for 2 km on the HSL will soon cost 250 baht, then you can expect Khon Kaen to cost 500 baht and Udon 900 baht, I estimate. The only city that will benefit from some travel time is Nakhon Ratchasima, but yes, there will be a price of 1100 baht for the HSL compared to the VIP buses for 500 baht. Too expensive for someone with little money and those with money have a car so you won't find one on the train. The car also has the advantage that you can leave from anywhere and you do not need any other transport upon arrival. Construction is currently underway on the Nakhon Ratchadima to Saraburi motorway; Soon you can go back and forth even faster by car.
The prices for the plane you mention are offers. You must book this well in advance of departure, say 2 to 3 months before your trip. Today I booked a ticket from Udon to Bangkok, departure March 18 (with luggage 20 kg) for almost 1.500 baht with the cheapest provider, Nok Air. Thai Airways had an offer of 850 baht for a few days until Tuesday with departure only very early in the morning.
When I wanted to book yesterday around 16.00pm Thai, the offer was sold out and the same trip now cost 2.300 baht.
A train journey BangKok-UdonThani for 1.100 Baht is therefore a good price in my opinion.
The flight prices I mention are regular prices. Just checked: Udon Thani to Bangkok for 732 departure March 14, March 21 for 632 baht, with Air Asia. The low prices are normal, only the last 10 days before departure you can expect higher prices because then a lot has already been sold. And the only people checking in with suitcases for the hold are tourists, not regular travelers. I personally take a small suitcase with me as hand luggage when I travel and therefore do not have to pay an extra 700 baht. The same goes for Thais who travel with small suitcases as hand luggage. And who books Thai on a domestic flight when there is also a cheaper Air Asia: are usually business travelers or civil servants who do not have to pay for their more expensive ticket themselves.
So the reasoning that 1100 baht is a good price is not correct.
FYI Nok Air is not the cheapest. To look at your booking of 1500 with Nok Air (now checked): Air Asia from Udon to Bangkok departures various times on March 18 incl. 20 kg luggage costs 1263 baht. Maybe next time look at Air Asia first then you will save money.
As far as I know, the price is already known and comes pretty close to a plane ticket. Flight time is about 1 hour. So check it out.
Yesterday I read on this blog that the negotiations with the Chinese about (financing of) construction have been discontinued. Moreover, even before the start of the project, the costs have risen sharply.
It won't work. Read my lips!
These are those ghost projects that do influence the course of the Bath...
I remember the concrete constructions that could be seen on the route towards Don Muang, that was once too ambitious a project. Problems with trains and planes are that you have to go to the point of departure and also to your destination on arrival. For the 1 it is close, for the other a long way to go. So you have extra travel time and costs on both sides. A bus can do some departure points, especially the VAN can be brought to your house and dropped off in front of your house while it is cheaper. If you have to go to a starting point by car, parking is a problem, but if it is possible, it is expensive. If you travel alone then traveling by car is relatively expensive, as more people travel in the car it becomes cheaper and more attractive.
If I have to go to the Embassy in Bangkok from Ban Phe(Rayong) because the local SSO's don't issue a life certificate as stated, I take the VAN for 200 Baht to Ekamai in Bangkok and get behind a Motorsai Taxi that slaloms me to Soi brings Tomson and waits there for half an hour and then back via the same route and I'm back home at 14.00 pm. Who can advise me a better alternative? Better, do I mean more comfortable, cheaper and faster? With planes and trains you have check-in procedures, often no good connection to other transport, so you have waiting times. It will mainly be ideal for the wealthier with limousine and private drivers and who have everything arranged by secretaries.
My opinion is that you should not only look at the costs, but also at the experience of the trip itself. I think it would be super cool to race through Thailand at a speed of 250 kilometers per hour. I've heard that the journey itself is more important than the destination.
The last time I flew with Thai Smile I was completely stuck in my seat.
If I can choose between a train journey of 2-3 hours in a luxury train and an air journey with Thai Smile, I definitely choose that train.
This depends of course on departure and arrival times.
If that train only runs at the wrong time once a day, it will have to be the plane.