Thai women seek justice
I am not telling anything new when I say that quite a few Thai women have married foreigners. How much then?
According to statistics from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 50.000 Thai women are married to a German man, 30.000 to a French man, also 30.000 to an American, 25.000 to an Australian, 10.000 to an Englishman, more than 8.000 to a Swede, 3.000 to an Austrian, almost 3.000 with a Finnish man and over 1.000 with a Dane. The Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Switzerland are not mentioned, but for the Netherlands and Belgium I dare say that there are also several thousand cases.
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Those are impressive numbers and it is completely logical that it is not always roses and moonshine for all those couples. All kinds of causes can be mentioned for this, but adultery by the man is a common ailment. A man who does that, or rather does a lot, runs the risk that the woman wants a divorce. In our West, as a woman you go to a lawyer, if you have no money to a Bureau for Legal Aid and a divorce is still easy to arrange. At least I think so, because I don't have any experience in this area myself.
Divorce
In Thailand is that something different. If the married woman wants to divorce a foreigner and he refuses to cooperate - because of the children, for example - she has a problem. She is financially dependent on that foreigner and is therefore unable to hire a lawyer to arrange the divorce.
For that reason, a website has recently been launched – www.thaiforeignspouse.com – that aims to help Thai women who have problems with foreign husbands. The initiative for this comes from the Thai and Foreign Spouse Networks Association of Thailand. Its chairman, Ms. Kanokrat Nimsamoot Booth said that since the start of the website, 200 Thai women have reached out for legal advice.
Thai women's rights
She told this at a recent seminar entitled “Across the Universe : “Cross Cultural Marriages”, organized by Rangsit University, where about 100 people listened to Mr. Suwat Kaewsook, director of a foreign affairs department called “Protection of Thai nationals abroad”.
He said: “Thai women should think carefully before marrying a foreigner and whether or not they want to live abroad. Life with a foreigner is not always as rosy as one might think and it is important to know more about the foreigner's country.” By the latter he meant not only the habits and customs of a foreigner, but also the rights, who has a married Thai woman.
bar girl
Another diligent official, this time from the Department of Labor and Social Welfare, had conducted a study last year of Thai women living in Udon Thani province married to a foreigner. He established that there were 5.700 foreigners living in that province, married to a Thai. Those 5.700 foreigners came from 33 different countries, with the Germans, British, French, Americans and Australians forming the most important groups. Their average income per month is said to be 100.000 Baht and all respondents reported that they had met their wives through dating sites, the Internet, family, friends or acquaintances. So none of them had married a “bargirl”!
An investigation of nothing, because especially that last conclusion no one believes. A useless investigation, as thousands are done all over the world, they disappear in a closet, everyone takes a pee and everything remained as it was!
Indirectly an interesting subject, thinking of all those Thai women who live abroad. This is much more difficult for people who hardly go abroad and who are very much attached to the family & Thai culture than for us Westerners.
I once spoke to a chief of the police in Brabant who had noticed that there were many suicides among both Philippine and Thai women in his region. He went to check that nationwide (by just calling some friends because there appears to be no national registration). And his region turned out to be not much different from the national average.
From that point of view, it would indeed be a good thing to make emigrating Thai women (and their spouses) more aware of the risks they take.
Chang Noi
I think you can find a lot of information here. I went to her lecture on September 25, 2009. I learned a lot and she did good research.
On June 11, 2009, Panitee Suksomboon obtained her PhD in Leiden for her dissertation “Thai migrant women in the Netherlands: cross-cultural marriages and families.” The dissertation examines the marriage migration of Thai women to the Netherlands.
Not much research is available on the subject yet. Panitee Suksomboon works after her PhD at Thammasat University, Faculty of Sociology and Anthropology.
we are also strongly attached to our culture or not sometimes
we lived in a province (outside the Randstad) for thirty years and had a lot of contact with Dutch people who married Thai women. the dutch won't come and tell me if they are cheating, but i have the impression that this is not too bad.
It's different with their Thai husbands: they can't stand it at home and visit some bars and cafes and consume quite a bit of alcohol and tell my wife that they are constantly cheating. Their Dutch husbands accept that in most cases. seems strange to us. Would it be exactly the opposite in our province?
I dare to doubt that the average monthly income is 100.000 baht.
If you ask, no farang is married to a bargirl because they always met her (or him of course) in a restaurant or they worked at the reception of a hotel or something or they were a student or a tour guide. I understand that somewhat because of course it doesn't sound like a whore, but yes, whores don't exist in Thailand either.
Whether someone comes from the bar circuit or not will be a sausage to me. There are also middle class ladies and HiSo who think the same way as many a bad bargirl. You will have to keep your head up yourself.
It turns out that Thailand also has legal alimony rules, my wife was separated from Thai husband for eight years, where the judge decided that he had to pay 1000 Bth Pm, but has never paid a baht, and there is nothing to be gained from a bare chicken. , and she lacked the means to obtain justice.
And therefore understood my legal process of my alimony obligation. And she then you just don't pay, and after a lot of explanation, she can also tell her that it works much differently with us, and the women in Holland can get legal assistance and be assisted by a lawyer
Rights of Thai women? And what are the rights of the farang husband in Thailand?
For the Thai woman in the Netherlands hordes of volunteers and do-gooders are ready to assist her in looting the belongings of the farang
No one is ready for the farang in Thailand, certainly not the authorities.
And let's not get started on lawyers.
Fortunately, I am so far free from injustice, but what is not may yet come.
Although, my spouse only has a very small family…
It seems to me that the cheating of the Dutch husbands of Thai women is not too bad, at least in my circle of acquaintances.
On the other hand, well that's a bit less........
But, of course, I didn't do any research.
It could be a nice topic, how do you find a reliable lawyer in Thailand?
But often enough they team up with the "enemy", to strip the farang even further.
Very easy in Thailand, after all, lawyers are allowed to work with a “no cure, no pay” contract.
And if they smell money, this is very attractive.
Hansy, would you like to tell you the following. A lawyer once said to me, you hear most lies in court, a car salesman can learn something from that. Unfortunately, I have come to the conclusion that he is right.
Well, namesake, you're kicking in an open door.
I have very little experience with civil law.
In NL, however, there is already quite a bit of lying, so that someone is right.
However, that is even worse in court. Coûte que coûte one tries to be right, often against better judgement.
I think it's 10 times worse in Thailand. But Thai judges are also very corrupt, and a good Thai lawyer will also assess the risks this entails for you.
“Farang” (white noses) also have a backlog in courts anyway.
There has been a nice series in NL, in which criminal lawyers were interviewed. Although criminal law is different from civil law, it did provide a nice insight into the way lawyers think.
@ Hansy, the judges in Thailand side with farang surprisingly often. Especially when there are ladies who practice the 'pick them' legislation. I think judges are tired of some ladies' tricks.
Peter, I can't talk to you about whether or not that's the case.
You yourself are a professional journalist by profession,
If a non-professional tries to explain something to someone, in this case one to the judge, the same words of the lawyer are spoken in a different order,
suddenly have a completely different meaning. A writer can also play with words. Each his profession.
PS. I don't mean this negatively
@ Hans, too much credit for me. I am not a professional journalist. Just a blogger with a passion for Thailand.
Whether judges surprisingly side with the white nose, I cannot judge.
I do know that in some districts judges apply the law a bit better, so that for example a Thai who claims a house that is in his name must also prove that he/she has actually paid for the house.
But even in such a case you must have a lawyer who does not try to eat it both ways.
And corruption, of course, consists first and foremost of having the right contacts…
But that applies everywhere in the world namesake there is even a proverb for it in the Netherlands.
It's not who you are, it's who you know!
And then there is also a proverb with something of a wheelbarrow. fill in yourself.
Peter, sorry to burst your bubble, but you can assume that the Thai judges are motivated otherwise than by noble principles and justice.
@ Yes, undoubtedly. I just want to say that you are not completely disenfranchised. The right of the strongest (richest) of course remains in force. This also applies in the Netherlands, because a wealthy person can hire a better lawyer. And can take longer to litigate.
Hmm, I don't know if that's how it works in NL. In NL I sometimes get the feeling that justice, in all their political correctness and goats wool socks mentality, is more on the side of the perpetrator than the victim. Under the motto: we can't reverse what happened to the victim. But let's not be too hard on the perpetrator. I think the NL systems are set up in such a way that all individual differences in available capital make little difference if you want to get things done… to the point of madness!
We have no rights even if they say so, in some cases you get your money back or at least part of it. Problems can also arise with the children. But hey, what's the difference? Here you have lost everything and you will never see your kids again. What then is law?
I have also released various theories, good or bad, but there is only 1 good answer and that's lucky. You won't know until you're in your coffin.
Well, it is clear that this is a huge culture shock, especially when the lady in question has never been to the Netherlands before. It will be even worse when the lady comes from the bar circuit and the farang is away from home all day because of work. For a female who is used to fun for a long time, boredom sets in very quickly. It is therefore wiser to first bring her here on a tourist visa for 3 months. But yes, in such situations the mind often falls to a place where the mind no longer works.
As for the law. Conversely, it does not seem to be so simple when it is the farang who wants to get a divorce, but who is stopped by the Thai. This is not such a problem for Dutch law, but if he is married in Thailand, just like me, then it seems to be less simple. The divorce must therefore be registered with the Amphur in Thailand.
May I be so bold as to ask what is your reason for getting married in Thailand and not in the Netherlands? Here you can oversee the consequences of a marriage, but in Thailand?
And I don't mean that it should become very personal, but so that others can also weigh up the pros and cons?
Simple, call it romance. I've been divorced twice and both times I left empty handed. I didn't bring a knife, spoon or fork. I am an emotional person and therefore not so materialistic.
Feeling happy is much more important to me than a few million in the bank and I do earn my money.
What about “the dowry” in Thailand? An acquaintance of mine has had a fiancée in Thailand for years who he visits faithfully, but he doesn't get married because he has to pay the family for that?? (To be honest, I suspect he'd rather like it that way 😉 )
The dowry depends on several factors. An already divorced woman with children is less "worth" than a young virgin, and that the parents may still be happy that the daughter will turn out well after all.
Then it also has to do with the wealth of the family of the man or woman. You can't pluck a bald chicken and of course they prefer the one with the golden eggs. And if a poor woman ends up in a rich family, that is not bad for the parents of the lady in the future either
It can also be agreed that the dowry paid by the man will be returned to the daughter. Poor parents of the daughter, of course, don't have much appetite for that.
Sometimes the more modern Thais don't ask for a dowry.
I myself heard from a Thai lady “it is all up to you” but she indicated that her husband paid THB 50.000,00 at the time. Other acquaintances paid for that too. My girlfriend said that if I were to marry her, I would have to consider an amount of THB 500.000,00
With the farang an extra 0 is suddenly allowed before the decimal point.
By the way, I told her that if she wants that amount, she had to quickly look for another guy. Don't plan on paying the parents either. Bought a scooter for them last year for 10.000 thb, which her mother had already cashed in the next day and bought one again for half.
When I asked why, the answer came he didn't start well, think she had debts to pay off. I didn't say anything more about it, but I drew my conclusion. Still pissed about it.
My girlfriend got a new scooter from me and got 50.000 gold. I also give her parents 4000,00 thb every month.
That is an arrangement that ultimately costs me more, but I already know how that will go if I suddenly give them 50.000 thb, within a few months and then I still come across the bridge every month.
Thank you very much for the explanation Hans, very instructive!
Mi stay pissed, wrong parents.
Just ask Thai what they think about it.
I'd rather you explain that to me properly, my Thai isn't that great.
the life of the bar girls consists of a number of different periods. I once heard this explained by a number of Thai men. The last period is the bar. They have never been without money, never have they had any regularity. And suddenly they go to Europe and have to play housewife, have to deal with money and lead a serious life (or will it become suffering) the farang who they thought was rich has to work to death to make ends meet and in many cases has to watch the little ones. he is already complaining in the supermarket and a visit to a store to buy Thai products is often too expensive. And then the weather. And the difference in culture. Only the strongest survive this. The vast majority seek each other out in the catering industry. in Europe sometimes until late at night. As long as the farang accepts this, there is nothing wrong (which most people do), otherwise they will separate. Which is quite easy in both Holland and Thailand. Something about the culture: in Asia status VERY IMPORTANT.
Oh state!
In Thailand they have and give loads of face.
Bags of it, tons of it, huge amounts of are doled out in unmeasurable quantities.
But honor, they have no idea what that means.
This is not a statement of mine.
But I once picked it up from an English website.
That's about right.
My wife & children are starting to see this nicely.
Happy.
Indeed, it won't be easy for a former bargirl to lead a home-garden-and-kitchen life here, especially if hubby is away from home for most of the day at work.
In the casino and elsewhere I regularly come across groups of Thai ladies who I know are married but who act exuberantly as bachelors.
I also know from ladies in clubs and escorts that they are married, work during the week in the Randstad and go to the hubby in the east of the country at the weekend.
As for getting married in Thailand, isn't it safer to get married just for Buda? Of course you still have the costs of the party and often the sinsot, but in any case no problems surrounding a divorce. And it wouldn't matter for the status in Thailand: you have your party details and everyone knows that you belong together.
Ton, like everywhere you have good and bad people and that also applies to Thailand and the Thai women. Divorce causes suffering and not only with Thai, but also with a Dutch woman.
Ferdinand, I know.
My reaction may seem negative about Thai women, but it is absolutely not intended that way. I fully understand the difficult (no chance) situation in Thailand for divorced women and the difficult situation she finds herself in in a country where she initially only knows her own farang. Then it is much more fun to go out with new friends, party.
And indeed, divorce does lead.
That is why I never married again after my first short-lived marriage to a Dutch woman.
I have lived together with a Dutch woman for over 25 years.
Are now apart, no hard feelings. And an appropriate financial arrangement was made, not legally enforced but voluntary.
Now in a relationship with a Thai.
If it comes to getting married, without a prenuptial agreement, you immediately hand in half of your savings.
And I think prenuptial agreements are such a vote of no confidence that in my opinion it is better not to get married.
In addition, I don't want to leave my girlfriend completely unkempt if things go wrong. Every year an amount is deposited into a bank account that I can never touch again, but neither can they for the time being. In addition, she invested in her house in Thailand plus some gold on a regular basis, also intended as a provision in case things go wrong. Not entirely unusual in Thailand.
To each his own, but I personally think this is so calculated. When you love someone, you have to go for it. Life is full of risks, but that's what makes it so exciting.
Yes, especially taking financial risks, I love that 😉
Apparently politicians too, but mainly with other people's money.
Really so exciting, if the Euro collapses due to irresponsible risks and my savings are worth nothing anymore.
But I digress now…
A Thai does not marry for emotional aspects!
Hansy, neither do you.
I've never seen the point of getting married.
But when you are young, and in the spirit of that time, you see it more as a kind of romantic fairy tale, which is again part of Western culture.
Later you see that it is simply the conclusion of a contract, as a seal of a relationship that has been built up. Whether or not surrounded by a lot of “cultural, romantic excesses”.
You do all sorts of things, because "that's how it should be".
I have also found out that no matter how well you think you know someone, you never get to know someone 100%.
And you never know what's really going on in someone else's head.
Ferdinant, I don't find your ideas consistent.
One moment you say: When you love someone, you have to go for it.
Only to claim later that a Thai does not marry you for emotional aspects.
Should we farang men let ourselves be guided purely by emotions?
I accept that a Thai woman thinks about her future, and I want to go along with it, but blindly?
Dear Ton, I quoted Hansy with the first sentence. So they are not my words.
dear Ferdinant, sorry, I didn't read it that way, but now that you mention it...
“And I think a prenuptial agreement is such a vote of no confidence that in my opinion it is better not to get married.”
I don't agree with you. If both contribute equally to the community, there is also nothing wrong with a short marriage.
If one of the partners contributes much more, a prenuptial agreement makes sense.
You also have to view a marriage rationally, it is the conclusion of a contract. Make sure the contract is well put together in advance.
A Thai does not marry for emotional aspects!
For me, a Thai could jump high and low, if there is to be married, then in NL. I can oversee all the consequences here. And no corruption in divorce.
Professionally, I often come across painful divorces, then you become realistic.
You don't hear me say that you shouldn't be realistic, but when you get married with someone, then there may be some trust. In the other case, such a marriage, at least in my eyes, is no big deal.
Yes Ton,
I've had a few of those too. There comes a point when you become realistic and therefore look at life differently. Materialism is something you cannot take with you, a Thai will always say that this is a temporary thing. So there comes a time when you consciously make a choice and expect nothing in return. For example, choose your wife. Surrender to your karma.
If you keep looking to the past, you have your back to the future.
So don't take your mess with you!
Have been married before 61/2 years with a thai from chiangmai.
Has cost me all that blood sweat and tears to obtain all the papers, now everything has become smoother than in the early eighties!
I was also the only one in my village who married a beauty from the land of smiles, now you can walk over the heads, so to speak (especially in Antwerp you come across them a lot with the baby in the pram and the farang with a gold chain on the other side walking in the famous shopping street the “Meir” in A'pen)
I had read somewhere that 60% of marriages are doomed to failure, language barrier, different customs and culture are the stumbling blocks in marriage.
Not to mention the gathering of the Thai girlfriends in the Thai cafes, one sees that one has a gold necklace, the other woman then complains to her husband to also buy such a necklace and so it begins, one can giving in to your lover's feminine charms and bag of tricks but where is it going to end?
That's how my marriage ended, she asked too much.
Let's just say that next Saturday I'm “ribberdebie, leaving for 1 days to the land of smiles.
In the autumn probably December because it is the king of Thailand's birthday and usually there are big parties in Krungthep for the attention of the beloved king.
Sorry moderator if I go off topic.
regards: georgessiam
Prenuptial agreement?? That understanding did not come naturally.
Through damage and shame people become wise, Had I been married 20 years ago on a prenuptial agreement, I would have lost 50 euros for new door locks. Now this cost me 50.000,00 euros, all of a sudden plus the monthly ali.
I have worked in mortgages and financing for years, both at a large bank and independently. that people came to me for advice
Sometimes too sad for words, that a man with a mediocre income has to pay so much alimony to his ex and kids that he no longer has anything to eat himself, to say the least.
Enough men in the Netherlands who are looking for a woman, so those women are generally quickly back under the roof.
New man's income, the ex's ali added, a little undeclared work added and you're almost at the net bar misery standard, give my portion to fikkie
I think it's a good thing that there is someone who wants to help the Thai ladies. I hope it's free.
A marriage legally performed in Thailand is legally valid in NL (even if it is not yet registered in NL). I assume (but am not sure) that a marriage legally concluded in the Netherlands is therefore also legally valid in Thailand. In short, it seems to me that it makes little difference where you legally marry.
In theory, divorce in NL is much more difficult and more expensive than in Thailand. In theory, you can just go to the amphur here and if you both want a divorce, that is arranged a-la-minute. If 1 of the 2 does not want to divorce, things get a bit more complicated.
In theory, everything is legally well regulated here, but due to corruption, it is questionable whether someone (Thai or non-Thai) will obtain his/her right.
Chang Noi
Chang Noi, then you see that wrong. If the Thai marriage is not legalized, it has no legal validity under Dutch law.
According to my lawyer this is not the case. If you are legally married in Thailand, this also applies in the Netherlands, legalized or not, according to the Dutch civil code.
The fact that someone is a lawyer also means that he/she is an expert in the field. We have so many legal rules in the Netherlands that you really have to pay attention to his/her specialty when looking for a lawyer. In this case, a lawyer who is familiar with family law. What this man or woman has told you is patently incorrect. If the marriage has not been legalized in the Netherlands, such a marriage will not be recognized in the Netherlands.
Applicable law
Pursuant to Article 36, paragraph XNUMX, of the Municipal Personal Records Database Act (Wet GBA), the data on marital status, if they concern facts that occurred in the Netherlands, are derived from a document as referred to under a, in the absence thereof from a document as referred to under ba a deed about the relevant act, which is included in the registers of civil status in the Netherlands; b. a deed, a decision, a final judgment or a notarial deed drawn up by the civil registrar concerning the relevant fact.
Article 4 of the WCH reads as follows.
In terms of form, a marriage in the Netherlands can only be legally solemnized before the registrar of births, deaths and marriages with due observance of Dutch law, subject to the authority of foreign diplomatic and consular officials, in accordance with the requirements of the law of the represented by them, to cooperate in the solemnization of marriages if none of the parties has Dutch nationality, either exclusively or in part.
Source: Judgment COURT OF UTRECHT Reg. no.: SBR 02/867
This is his specialty and he got it from the civil code. So maybe you should check that out too. Will ask him which art. described in the law.
You are also talking about the Municipal Personal Records Database Act. And not about the civil code, that is a difference.
Furthermore, the Court's decision does not state why the decision was made.
People are talking about a marriage in the Netherlands and/or according to Dutch law, not about a marriage performed abroad according to the rights of that country!
GerG, then you should believe what you want to believe.
It's not about belief, it's about the facts. And for the right legislation. If I had to believe everyone, I would have lost a lot of lawsuits. Facts and rulings of judges dealing with the same type of case, that's what I'm all about.
Dear GerG, what are your facts then, a reference from your lawyer to the Civil Code?
We can discuss this further, but I don't think there is much point in doing so. For recognition of a foreign marriage here in the Netherlands, you are obliged to register such a marriage with the local municipality. If you do not do this, such a marriage will not be recognized under Dutch law. If you have any doubts about this, I advise you to contact your local municipality.
I got married in Thailand myself and had to walk that road too.
I think you're pretty correct about marriage. Your comment about lawyers is also completely justified. Have you had to point out lawyers on a regular basis?
Am now also busy with a lawsuit, almost have all the facts about this myself
should be listed. It seems like a lot, lawyer, but for the average lawyer
you don't even have to be really smart. If you can read the Civil Codes you will come a long way and you can use them for the exam.
Article 36 GBA states very clearly
“if they concern facts that occurred in the Netherlands”
A marriage contracted elsewhere has not occurred in NL.
Article 4 of the WCH also clearly states “in the Netherlands”.
So you're not that clear, Ferdinant.
@KhunPeter
I still have sufficient faith in the Dutch legal system.
@Hans/KhunPeter
If the evidence is there, a good lawyer in NL also does little, at most some relief, but in cases where the evidence is not very clear, a good lawyer knows how to “exploit” this.
You have wrong people everywhere, so also in NL you have wrong judges.
In civil law, the law of the strongest often applies.
But that is the case in every country. This has little to do with the judiciary, but with the financial possibilities of the person who summons another party.
However, a Dutch judge will not straighten something that is crooked.
Apparently this is happening in Thailand.
In my opinion, a marriage solemnized in Thailand is automatically legally valid in the Netherlands as long as you submit the correct legalized papers. A divorce pronounced in Thailand is not recognized in the Netherlands. A marriage concluded in the Netherlands is not recognized in Thailand, nor is a divorce. A foreigner could and cannot buy land in Thailand. A Thai woman married to a foreigner could do this, but is no longer able to do so. The land must now be in the names of two Thais. There have never been any restrictions for a Thai man. And just to add to the posting I think it is good that Thai women are helped when they are in trouble. Because of my knowledge of the Thai language, I was sometimes called in to pass prenuptial agreement deeds, etc. Well, I assume that some Dutch people feel can be tough, for example under pressure from an ex (child) in Germany the law towards foreigners is even tougher. Thai people have never been raised in a protected environment and are therefore a bit more handy and inventive. Once again, there is now help if they exercise their right In my opinion, searching is only to be welcomed.
About lawyers and the judiciary.
A friend of mine was a criminal lawyer in Utrecht.
In an unguarded moment we talked about law, after which he took me along to the Hamburgerstraat in Utrecht, where the Palace of Justice was located at the time.
Before the Cantonal Court he asked what was written on the building? Ehhhh, Cantonal Court of course, Again he took me further down the street, and what does this building say? District court.
To which he spoke the magic words: if you seek justice or righteousness, you should not be here.
Judges, public prosecutors and lawyers play a game here, a game that has already been rehearsed in advance.
And are you looking for civil law?
Don't get it started, two lawyers and a court, can never go well.
I have remembered this wise lesson well
And what applies in the Netherlands will undoubtedly also apply in Thailand, to an equal or more intense degree.
@ How can you tell if a lawyer is lying? Then his lips move…
Difference Arrondissements and subdistrict court.
The difference between District Courts and Cantonal Courts mainly lies in the gravity of the dispute. In the subdistrict court, a judge rules on the least serious cases, such as traffic violations. The district court deals with, among other things, supervision orders, bankruptcy applications, divorces and debts or claims.
Courts
There are five courts of appeal in the Netherlands. The jurisdiction of the Court of Appeal is called ressort, which in turn consists of a number of districts. A judge at the court is called a justice, and a judgment of a justice is called a judgement.
chambers
A court of law also has three types of chambers. Civil chambers, criminal chambers and tax chambers. These chambers handle cases with three judges (multi-judge chambers). For simple matters there is a single room. In addition to these three chambers, the court in Arnhem has a tenant chamber and the court in Amsterdam has a business chamber.
There is indeed a big difference between being entitled and being entitled. Nevertheless, I have faith in our justice system, because also the less fortunate
can obtain legal aid for a small personal contribution on the basis of proof of insolvency.
Thank you so much for this explanation ferdinand. At least we know how everything works. in many countries the legal system is much less than in the Netherlands. we come out quite favorably. even though there are people who view this negatively. Just look at the reactions.
From me, Thai women get the same rights in Belgium and the Netherlands as we have in Thailand. twill be done quickly with their compliments