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Living in Thailand at different addresses

By Submitted Message
Posted in Reader question
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November 5 2018

Dear readers,

I am retired, have a retirement visa and live and rent a beautiful condo in Pattaya, of course I am also registered here. Recently met an interesting woman from Ubon Ratchathani who was on holiday in Jomtien. Now I go to Ubon for 1 week every month, staying in a hotel with her is not (yet) an option.

I am now considering renting a condo or house in Ubon R town, prices are very reasonable. My question or finally several:

  • Is it allowed and possible to rent a condo in both Pattaya and Ubon R at the same time?
  • Do I also have to report to immigration in Ubon R or is it sufficient if the landlord registers me at immigration?
  • Finally, do I always have to report to immigration in Jomtien for the 90 days or can I (if I happen to be staying there) also report to immigration in Ubon city?

Regards,

Barry

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8 responses to “Living in Thailand at different addresses”

  1. John Chiang Rai says up
    5 November 2018 at 10: 57

    Dear Barry, an interesting question where, if the legislation is followed properly, a TM 30 form must be issued by the landlord every time.
    So every time you enter the house in Ubon Ratchathani, the landlord must officially submit a TM 24 form to the Immigration within 30 hours.
    The same procedure awaits the landlord in Pattaya every time he returns temporarily.555

  2. Peter Young. says up
    5 November 2018 at 11: 20

    1 yes you can
    2 is correct, you must report the landlord
    3 is possible with both
    Gr Peter

  3. Jacob says up
    6 November 2018 at 04: 03

    I have been living at 2 different addresses for years, officially with a yellow tabien job and on a work permit at my wife's home address and for convenience a house in Bangkok for work
    Never worried about the TM30...

    • RonnyLatPhrao says up
      6 November 2018 at 06: 19

      I always make a TM30 report in Bangkok when I return from Belgium. Through the post. Takes me a few minutes to fill out and take to the post office. I get it back in the mail a week later.
      It has never been asked afterwards in any contact with immigration.
      Even when I travel through Thailand and stay with Thai friends, I am never reported. Not for me either.
      I just want to say that I don't care much for it either, but that's my problem. If my host is ever punished, I will pay those costs instead.

      That is what I do and that is of course different from what the law prescribes and what one should do.
      The questioner must draw his own conclusion from this.

      • RonnyLatPhrao says up
        6 November 2018 at 07: 27

        Seen too late again : it should be “….will never be reported”.

      • Bert says up
        6 November 2018 at 08: 25

        When I am in BKK I also report neatly to IMM for the TM30, on Ronny's advice I will also try in writing next time.
        When we go away for a few days and stay in a hotel, there is no hotel that asks for my passport or name. Only from my wife. I don't make a fuss about that and if they happen to check me on the street, I just say that I only arrived today.

  4. RonnyLatPhrao says up
    6 November 2018 at 04: 04

    1. In principle you can conclude as many rental contracts as you want. A rental contract is only between you and the landlord. However, Immigration will only accept one permanent address. The permanent address for immigration is the address you provide when applying for a one-year extension or 90-day notification.
    If you are temporarily staying at another address, you do not have to change that permanent address at immigration and TM30 notifications will suffice when you stay there.

    2. If you are going to rent, the landlord (or the person who arranges the rental on his behalf) will have to report you with a TM30 at the start of the rental period. (If he does because in principle you don't know that either).
    However, after that, and as long as the rental contract runs, you will be regarded as the “head of the household” and the reporting obligation lies with you. The landlord is not expected to always be aware of your presence or absence at that address. Even if foreigners stay overnight with you, you will have to report them to immigration yourself.
    I don't know how strictly this is monitored in Udon... maybe you should inquire, because if you want to do everything according to the letter of the law, you will have to deal with all those reporting obligations.

    3. In principle, you must report to the immigration office responsible for the area where your permanent address is located. (Although they may accept it once at another immigration office.)
    The applicant (or authorize someone to file for you, only in case of not overdue), must come to the nearest Immigration Office or Branch Office in your residence area.
    https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do

    I don't see the problem in your case though.
    You can run the 90 day notification from 15 days before to 7 days after the notification date.
    “The notification must be made within 15 days before or after 7 days the period of 90 days expires.”
    https://www.immigration.go.th/content/sv_90day
    That is a period of 3 weeks. Since you are only going for a week, it seems to me that you have plenty of time to make that report in Jomtien.

    Or try it online.
    https://www.immigration.go.th/content/online_serivces

    • RonnyLatPhrao says up
      6 November 2018 at 06: 23

      So Ubon instead of Udon.


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