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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Working in Thailand, which visa do I need
Reader question: Working in Thailand, which visa do I need
Dear readers,
I read the question of someone who wants to start a company in Thailand to work there. I am also researching the possibilities of living in Thailand for 6 months a year and in the Netherlands for 6 months a year.
During the period that I am in Thailand I would like to work. Is this possible if I do this from my self-employed practice in the Netherlands?
I would like to do activities such as building websites for Dutch clients and organizing retreats in Thailand where I focus on the Dutch market.
By then I can (probably) get my visa through my son who will then have Thai nationality.
And is it otherwise possible to perform these activities on the basis of another visa?
The Thai visa and work system is still a bit confusing for me. I therefore hope that the reader of this blog can help me further.
Greetings,
Sandra
Hello
Visa and work permit are completely separate, you can have a work permit and a normal visa if you leave the country every 3 months, but a work permit is always for 1 year. I don't see the point of a workpermit for building websites in NL. As far as your retreat is concerned if you work with that you will of course need a work permit. Don't run into that yourself, go to a competent local law firm and they will organize everything for you.
Dear Sandra, you can only obtain a work permit on the basis of a position within a Thai company. This is not possible on a self-employed basis.
When you are in Thailand you can safely work at home behind the computer for Dutch clients, as long as you are paid for it in the Netherlands. Working for Thai clients is only possible if you start a Thai company and then join it. (i.e. A company limited, with thai partner(s), minimum 2 mln capital & 4 thai employees per work permit).
For Thai visas I advise you to consult the visa file.
1. you can also get a work permit for a foreign company, but these are large or important companies for the economy, such as large hotels.
2. work = work. The same goes for digital nomads. I know it is being done but it is - by the letter of the law - illegal in Thailand. So you run a risk, especially now that the government controls everything that happens via the internet. At the moment this still applies to unwelcome postings, but people will also certainly find out what foreigners ('potential terrorists') are doing here via the internet.
Thanks for clarifying that a visa and workpermit are separate.
It seems that giving retreats is a lot more complicated after all.
I envision myself offering a retreat of 5 or 1 weeks to about 2 participants a few months a year. I will not receive a high income and will not need a lot of staff. At most someone who cooks (and then according to Chinese Medicine principles).
I still wonder if I fall under Thai law if I offer these retreats from a Dutch company (still starting up).
Ideally, I see myself working 6 months a year in the Netherlands as a freelancer (TCM therapist and website builder) and 6 months a year in Thailand (TCM/Zen retreats and website builder)
By the way, these are all still plans for the future. I am still in training…
But I do see this as a way to get out of my WAO one day...
In any case, Thailand keeps calling! (lived there between 1996 and 2000)
You are not allowed to work behind your PC at all in Thailand without a work permit. Even if that is for foreign clients and payment is made to a foreign account.
I'm afraid you don't understand. You are not allowed to carry out any activity in Thailand, whether paid or not, without a work permit. So no volunteer work or intellectual work either.
It's clear to me Henry.
I worked as a volunteer in Thailand for 4 years and even 1 month as a paid employee. I know the route to follow if I want to work in Thailand for a Thai company or start a business there.
What was not clear to me, however, was the regulations if I do not work for a Thai, but for a Dutch company. I understand from your responses that I also fall entirely under Thai regulations.
The last time I did paid work (eventually for 1 month) was for Tui (travel company) and a local travel company run by an Englishman. I did have permission to work for this at the time. The work permit was arranged by my employer. Because this concerned a foreign employer, I got the suspicion that different rules applied here.
I intend to visit the Thai embassy in the Netherlands next month (to arrange Thai nationality for my son) and apply for a visa. I will therefore raise this question there and ask for an explanation of how I can obtain a work permit.
My work/living plans will take a number of years before I will be able to implement them. So I still have time to find out and apply for everything.
Thank you for thinking along!