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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Which passport should my Thai wife use?
Reader question: Which passport should my Thai wife use?
Dear readers,
My wife (is Thai) and has a Thai and Dutch passport, we live in the Netherlands. Because of my health problems I can't go to Thailand.
We have been together four years now, although my wife's urge is not that great, I still gave her a ticket to visit her family again.
But now our question is: which passport to use? The Dutch or the Thai?
Please your advice.
Regards,
Pete and Nida
Depart the Netherlands with a Dutch passport.
Arrive Thailand with Thai passport.
Leave Thailand with a Thai passport.
Arrival in the Netherlands with a Dutch passport.
My wife has Thai and Belgian nationality and always does it that way
(with Belgian instead of NL passport of course)
Nothing wrong with it.
If proof of residence or visa in the other country is requested upon departure, simply show the other passport as well. Or even ID card, is also accepted.
If your wife goes for less than 30 days, she can also go on her Dutch passport.
She will then receive a 30-day Visa Exemption in her Dutch passport, just like other Dutch people.
Depart Belgium with Belgian identity card
Arrive Thailand with Thai passport
Depart Thailand with Thai passport + Belgian identity card, because there is no visa for Belgium in passport.
Arrival in Belgium with Belgian identity card.
Departure must also be with a Belgian ID card and Thai passport.
She will not be checked in to Thailand on the basis of a Belgian ID card only.
Or she must first fly to another country where she can go on the basis of her ID only, but then she will have to show her Thai passport before continuing to Thailand
Officially they should not accept the Belgian ID card in Thailand as proof, because it is not valid there.
But as I write, they accept it without a problem.
Verterk Nederland NL passport you will not get a stamp
Arrival Thailand Thai passport
Depart Thailand Thai passport
Arrival Netherlands NL Passport
If you leave Thailand you will still get a stamp in your passport and if you show your Dutch passport on arrival in the Netherlands and there is no stamp in it, they will also ask whether you have another passport. Or am I wrong
I experienced it like this when I went with my daughter from Thailand to the Netherlands in 2011, they asked in Thailand if my daughter had 2 passports and asked that too upon arrival in NL.
Back after Thailand 1 passport (NL)
Arrival Thailand 1 passport (Thai)
Going to NL again in March what should I do now. I want to try again to first give my daughter's Thai passport on departure in Thailand and her Dutch passport on arrival in the Netherlands
I am married but still bring the marriage papers and letter of guarantee to prove that I am not kidnapping my daughter. To be on the safe side, better take too much than too little and not be allowed to leave.
Pekasu
You will not get stamps in your passport through the automatic passport control in Thailand. So my wife no longer has stamp peks in her Thai passport.
My wife never gets questions. She enters Belgium on Be passport or ID card. No one from the police asks where she comes from. She has Belgian nationality and no one can refuse her. In addition, dual citizenship is legal.
Only at customs people sometimes ask where we come from, but they don't ask for your passport or ID card. They only concern the import or export of goods.
Both. In or out of the Netherlands/Europe you show the Dutch passport, in or out of Thailand you use the Thai passport. For other countries you use the most favorable passport. As long as you neatly use the same passport at the border of a certain country X to enter and exit, then you're fine.
I would prefer to buy the ticket with the passport of the country from which I purchase it. If you buy the ticket in the Netherlands, then the data from the Dutch passport. But another passport could also be possible if you can show it when asked.
I wish you good health and your wife a happy holiday/family visit.
Nowadays you only book a ticket with the name, which must correspond exactly with the name in the passport.
I wonder if the ticket was paid with a cc or otherwise. With cc payment, the payer must be on the flight.
Does not have to. When buying the ticket, indicate that it is for someone else. Bring a copy of your credit card to the check-in desk. No problem.
Whether the cc payer has to be on the flight or not depends on the conditions of the relevant airline. If this is a requirement, it can usually be met by signing a statement.
So in that case I would just contact the airline, it can almost always be arranged without any problems.
We are talking about a Dutchman. In the Netherlands we prefer to use Ideal. Nothing to do with credit card - and there is also a simple point to turn if necessary. (there is a credit card verification procedure).
If your wife has a problem checking in in the Netherlands because there is no Visa in her Dutch passport, she will also show the Thai passport there if requested. In Thailand the other way around.
Nico B
Just like Ronny says above. We also live in Belgium, so my wife has both Belgian and Thai nationality. She usually goes to Thailand for 3 months after 3 years. We then go to Thai embassy where she gets her Thai passport. In Thailand, she then has her Thai passport renewed. On her return, she shows her Belgian passport in Brussels.
The advantage of using the Dutch passport is that the Netherlands must take action if something unexpected happens to your spouse in Thailand. If she uses her Thai passport, the Netherlands must keep out of it and she is dependent on the help of Thailand.
This is an international arrangement. Some time ago, a Chinese Australian entered China on the basis of his Chinese passport. After that there were the necessary complications, but Australia could only watch. If this same gentleman had entered China on his Australian passport, Australia would have had the right to interfere. I also seem to remember that there was recently an incident with a Turkish Dutchman who had used his Turkish passport and was arrested in Turkey for one reason or another. The Netherlands, too, could only watch. Fortunately, just under two years ago, the fierce columnist Ebru Umar did use her Dutch passport to go to her holiday home in Turkey. Even the then Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands interfered with her return.
My advice is to use the passport of the country from which you expect the most help at the Thai border if something unexpected happens to your wife.
I think it's a bit more nuanced. If you have the nationality of country X and country Y, the passport you used to enter is indeed decisive when visiting country Z.
But if you are in a country of which you hold the nationality (you are in country X or Y) then you are subject to the legal system of that country, regardless of which passport you entered with. (Master Nationality Rule)
Dear,
Uses the Thai passport.
Has only benefits, no visa.
Yours faithfully,
Erwin
When traveling from Bangkok to the Netherlands, the identity card is not always accepted, so it is better to have a Dutch Passport. We experienced this last year when we flew back with EVA-air. This time it was still possible with an identity card when checking in, next time no more.
It is a miracle of God if you only flew back and forth with an ID card. That has never worked.
My wife had problems leaving Thailand with her Thai passport.
From the Netherlands she had used her Dutch passport, Thailand in her Thai.
And on the way back she wanted it back the same way.
It's nice that customs started to whine.
In the end she had to fill in such a visa paper for the Netherlands.
Gave everyone a lot of fuss and nagging.
Customs is about goods, immigration about people. So it must have been immigration.
I have never heard of “such a visa paper for the Netherlands” (or Belgium). I'd like to read some more about that.
My wife has been using automatic passport control in Thailand for several years now, with her Thai passport. No immigration officer involved. However, they are there in case someone needs help, or if problems arise with recognition. That device also does not check whether someone has a visa or not. They will check this at check-in. Showing her Belgian passport or even Belgian ID card will suffice.
Previously, with the classic passport control through immigration, showing her Belgian passport or even ID card was sufficient, and that was sufficient as proof of residence. Before she became Belgian, there was the residence card as proof.
Never had any problem, and that's already 14 years since we got married and 10 years since she's Belgian.
Until a few months ago (September 2017 I say from memory) the Thai also had to fill in the arrival / departure form. The card did say that foreigners also had to fill in a 3rd side, the Thai only 2 sides. This piece of paper has nothing to do with visa(s).
And customs deals with the import/export of goods and the like. The Immigration/Border Guard will issue visas, stamps in the passport and the arrival/departure card.
Entering and leaving Europe with your European passport and entering and leaving Thailand with your Tjaise passport is just fine and the best way. This way you will not be mistakenly mistaken as a foreign tourist (resulting in bullshit such as where is your visa? Overstay etc). Your wife used the right passports in the right places, but simply forgot the arrival/departure card that was listed here.
Regarding the arrival/departure card, see also:
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/visum-ook-witte-arrival-card-invullen/
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/thailand/arrival-card-immigration-thai-vervalt-op-1-oktober/
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/nieuws-uit-thailand/arrival-en-departure-card-buitenlanders-blijft-bestaan/
That is the regular TM6 card.
Only the model has changed, although I was still using the old one in November.
Indeed. Nothing to do with a visa and much less with the Netherlands (or Belgium).