Reader's question: Bringing a girlfriend from Thailand via the Belgium route

Have you already looked at the Foreign Partner Foundation site? The most essential is the steps that are well prepared and the steps that you follow during the Belgium (or other EU) route. The experience of people with a partner from another country who have their BP transferred via the BE/DE/… route is therefore very helpful.
http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/forumdisplay.php?32-De-Belgi%EB-route

Concrete information about Dutch people with a Thai BP with the EU route can of course be extra clear (arrange the same documents, etc. step by step), so I understand that it is nice if someone can share his/her experience on this blog.

Good preparation is half the battle and even essential for the relatively complicated EU route (which I have no experience with myself). So make sure you can dream all the steps (don't lose sleep over them). Good luck!

What I know from a Thai acquaintance and her friend is that, which can be checked via the site of the Belgian embassy, ​​the requirements in Belgium are practically the same as those in the Netherlands at the moment.
The so-called Belgium route is a thing of the past.
Sorry but that's what I know from someone trying to get to Turnhout. and has been doing this for over a year and a half now. He's been a Belgian all his life

My situation is I live in the Netherlands, my employer is Belgian and I work throughout Germany. My wife has been in the Netherlands for a little over 2 years now. I myself viewed and selected both routes in 2010/2011.
For Germany you also have to first learn the language in Belgium or Flemish or French and for the Netherlands you have to know Dutch in basic.
These rules are the biggest hurdle. The rest really means nothing. A fixed income above a certain minimum for at least 1 year. (also a WW benefit is an income, just like WAO etc). You have to guarantee. You can use a third party (family) for this (garnishment and salary), although the wage limit is then higher. You also need living space.

What I think is the same is the language requirement and for that reason alone I would say try it via the Netherlands first.
In the meantime I know many Thais who have done the naturalization together with my wife, all of them here for about a maximum of 3 years.
If you fill in the forms properly and submit everything properly, there will be few problems. Just keep track of where the documents go and are.
Go via or directly or via Zoetermeer to 's-Hertogenbosch then to Zwolle, then again to Zoetermeer and then you get permission yes or no.

My wife has been to the Netherlands twice as a friend. Everything arranged through the info center in Eindhoven. After that, in the beginning every week for the MVV went to the IND info center in Eindhoven to ask where the papers were and what the status is.
Has helped a lot. MVV application within 6 weeks.
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I also took a quick look at it, but I don't really understand the benefit either.

Is this purely to avoid the income requirement? Or does this also provide advantages with regard to the integration course?

My girlfriend is currently in the Netherlands. What really surprised me is that she received a 3-month single entry visa the first time. But with the 2nd application, no more questions were actually asked, only whether she stayed with the same partner. And then a Multi entry visa for 1 year was also issued without any questions. So she can just fly in and out for the next year as long as she doesn't stay within 90 for longer than 180 days. And at Schiphol she could just walk straight through, she was just asked about her return journey and that's it.

Moving to MVV suddenly seems a lot less difficult to me, in any case, if we change our mind and we want to stay in NL.

The easiest way is to take the civic integration exam in Bangkok and simply stay in the Netherlands, even with an AOW it is possible to apply for an MVV for your girlfriend. My girlfriend studied with Richard van der Kieft, she and I liked that, maybe you can approach him if you have any questions. Website http://www.nederlandslerenbangkok.com

Good luck.

Greetings,

John Hoekstra

People can do this for several reasons:
– Not being able to meet the income requirement because your 1) contract no longer runs for 365 days when the application is received at the IND (one day too late and you get negative, a contract that runs for 364 days is not sustainable enough) 2 ) works as a temporary / on-call worker or other such basis 3) cannot meet the income requirement for other reasons, such as just a euro too little, as an entrepreneur you cannot meet the income requirements that apply to them, etc. and on paper therefore no “ sustainable and sufficient” income, but in practice earn enough and/or have enough money behind.
– Problems with integration at home/abroad: yes, exemptions can be obtained for this after many attempts (in any case, integration at home, exemption for integration abroad -WIB- is almost impossible to do, that has only happened twice since the introduction of the WIB ).

It can be difficult to meet the income requirement, especially for starters on the labor market, i.e. young people. These days you don't get an annual contract (or permanent contract) so quickly. If you have just lost your job, it can also become difficult even if you have just found a new job.

It can also simply come true, if you are just planning to move yourself, why not (temporarily) in a neighboring EU country if you are filling up your moving van from the Netherlands or another country?

The integration requirements seem fair at first glance, but they are also quite patronizing, under the guise of “the good must suffer because of the bad”. They actually assume that the foreigner may have the wrong intentions and comes from a backward country (I think the questions from the WIB, among others, are pitiful and ultimately most knowledge is of little or no use to you: “was the king of Spain Catholic or Protestant?" "Do you receive benefits or does your partner have to take care of you?" Unfortunately, people who are perfectly fine in practice (keep their own pants on, will normally participate in society, etc.) get stuck in this problem. but not on paper. Well then you hang nice, and the EU route offers a nice escape.

For most people with a foreign (Thai) partner, the regular route (MVV / TEV) is doable and easiest, but the EU route has its uses. The latter is probably also the case for the writer of this reader's question?