Dear Thailand bloggers,
I'm going to Thailand as a single pensioner in January for two months, rented a studio in Hua Hin. Partly thanks to the many practical information that your blog offers, I have learned a lot about the preparations and stay there, thank you for that!
Now I still have a question: I am going to Thailand for 63 days and will therefore buy a visa one entry and then go to an Immigration Office in Thailand itself for an extension, although the Embassy could not guarantee that extension by telephone, said that it depended on the official on the spot whether or not you find him “suspicious” or whether or not I still have to go to Cambodia for a visa run. But okay, I trust that as a female pensioner I won't be very suspicious!
Now I recently heard someone say that there are airlines, I myself fly with Finnair, that will make it difficult to take you if, like me, you have a ticket for 64 days and a visa for only 60 days, even if you say you will extend in Thailand itself. Do you know that problem? Do you have experience with that? I don't want to think that when I arrived at Schiphol, I wouldn't be allowed to go into the air.
Many thanks in advance for your reply,
Anne
Yes they will, because they are responsible and A will be fined and B will have to take you back to where you came from at their expense. And the airline will not want that.
It is therefore better to also book a (cheap) ticket for, for example, a flight from Bangkok to Kuala Lumpur. You will not use that ticket, but you can use it to demonstrate and make plausible that you would leave Thailand before your visa expires. A small investment, but you prevent a lot of misery with it, up to possible refusal!
That remains to be seen. Last year I had a ticket (one way) and a 60 day visa. Not a penny of pain. Flew with Singapore Airlines.
That cannot be seen, because it is international treaties in which this has been agreed. That you happened to succeed is luck rather than wisdom and offers no guarantee and I find it quasi misleading. As the founder of this blog, you should inform visitors to both this site and the country of Thailand a little better than giving the impression that things are not too bad.
That would mean that if you are required to have a visa you can never book a one-way ticket? Can you give a source of those international treaties? Would like to read it myself.
Tip 1: Go to Schiphol on time, if they are difficult at the check-in desk, book a ticket to Kuala Lumpur with Air Asia with your laptop
Tip 2: I was standing at the gate at Schiphol after the security check and the man in front of me was asked about the length of his stay in Thailand. When he said overstay he had to sign a form that Etihad would not be liable for the extra costs if he was refused in Thailand which never happened. Then it was my turn and I lied that I stayed 30 days instead of actually 32 days.
Tip 3: Make sure you are on time on your way back to Surivabuhmi to pay the overstay a 500 b per day.
Tip 4: The last 4 days of your 64 you can be thrown in jail if you have to deal with the police those 4 days. So do not report if you are robbed during those 4 days
I flew a lot for my work and when contracts were over back home here in Thailand with a few flights from anywhere in the world. Never had any problems, 1 time had to sign a paper for the airline that was about liability.
2 or 3 days as a rule here is no problem paying 500 baht overstay per day is cheaper than making a visa trip for those 2 or 3 days that you have overstay.
Dear Jim, have we talked about this often, don't think about your overstay, just pay those 500 baths, the point is you get an overstay stamp in your passport, and you don't want that. 3 of those stamps and they can refuse you.
Perhaps the simplest, most correct, effective, etc… solution would be :
Would you like to ask for information where you booked your trip?
Or to society?
Better than getting X number of different answers in my opinion.
Greetings and pleasant journey.
Anne, not only the airline is making it difficult but arriving for the immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok to get through immigration, they are even more difficult. Just extend here so you don't have any problems anywhere. Can't you just go 60 days instead of 64? Are you from anywhere. Good luck, Marianne
At the airport of Bangkok, immigration never looks at a return ticket.
The airline is the one that demands a return for commercial reasons.
The simplest way is to book a cheap ticket with airasia or nokair.
In Bangkok you can then extend at immigration. A ticket will cost you about 25 Europe just search for the cheapest destination.
You run no risk with this. Booking quickly at the airport is disappointing, often costs you a lot of time.
I find it strange that an airline company would refuse you, because you already get a stamp on arrival and you can extend your visa in Thailand by means of a visa run, among other things.
When I didn't have an annual visa yet, I often flew to Thailand without a visa in my passport. It was never asked. I did it on the spot. When I wanted to stay longer, I went to Malaysia (from Hua Hin a nice trip of a few days – by train – I already wrote a piece about it) and got a visa for two months.
My tickets are always one-way tickets, in my case the best way, because my former job as a flight attendant means I can fly cheaply and a one-way ticket costs me half of a return ticket. I was never asked for anything by passport control or by any airline.
Here's a 'Belze' testimonial. Back to the question: make it difficult.
I always book through a travel agency (only 12 euros administration costs and I am rid of internet bookings, but I always look for the cheapest flight myself first, which the travel agency checks for me without any problem and sometimes they tip me for even better alternatives).
With a ticket longer than one month, the travel agency always makes me sign a document that the airlines require that a visa is required and that they are not responsible for it if you don't.
So the travel agent points out the legal requirements to me. That is not difficult to do.
Have fun.
The strange thing about all this well-intentioned information is that nobody just tells you that if you go for 64 days you need a 90-day visa. If you are going for less than 30 days, a 30-day visa, etc.
It is and always will be dangerous to have a transfer. You are in violation and depending on how a Thai official feels about it at that moment. If you pay overstay you admit that you have committed an offense and you never know how you will react to it later.
If you are in another country try not to commit offences, never smart. You Benton that moment a foreigner who does not play by the rules.
Dear Anne,
The answer is stated in the 'Visa Thailand' file. Question 6, described in more detail in Chapter 7 of the Annex (read both), states very clearly that you can apply for a 30-day extension of your 60-day (Tourist Visa – single entry) from any Immigration Department in Thailand; costs 1900 Baht and you do not have to leave Thailand for that. Any good airline should be aware of these basic rules.
Of course, an embassy can never guarantee an extension, because the embassy only has the authority to determine the type and period of validity of your visa. This grant is in line with your request, provided you meet the conditions for the visa in question, of course.
Determining the length of stay in Thailand (including an extension) is the responsibility of Immigration in Thailand, and this will be in line with the visa you received from the embassy (see question 7).
When posting your question, no reference is made to this file in the links directly below your question. Of course you could have taken a look at the file yourself, but you may not have realized how complete and extensive this file is - it takes some getting used to.
Why not just buy a ninety-day visa for € 55 right away?
You can stay in Thailand for a maximum of 60 days on a pre-purchased multi-entry Tourist visa. You then have to leave the country to be able to use those other entries or to extend it for 30 days for a new entry via the airport. You can also extend a 60-day visa in Thailand, piece of cake.
If you meet the conditions, you can also purchase a Non-immigrant O for 90 days, which is the easiest.
Dear Peter, the 30-day extension has nothing to do with a new entry; read the Thailand Visa dossier from Thailandblog.
A Tourist Visa can have single (1), double (2) or triple (3) entries. Each entry gives a length of stay of 60 days, and this length of stay can be extended by 30 days at Immigration (cost 1900 Baht) without leaving Thailand. To activate the 2nd or 3rd entry (of 60 days), you have to leave the country for a while; how (plane or van) does not matter.
If all extension options of the relevant Tourist Visa have expired, you can still use the Visa Exemption scheme. See Visa Thailand file from Thailandblog. One has to leave the country for a while, for example with a visa run or a same-day-return flight*. When you return via an airport you get 30 days, by land only 15 days, and this length of stay can be extended once by 7 days at Immigration (costs 1900 Baht).
*The 'same-day-return' flight is not yet mentioned in the Visa Thailand file, but will be included soon. In short: you fly to Kuala Lumpur or Singapore (no visa is required for both destinations), go through immigration/customs and fly the same day (or later; up to you!) back to Bangkok, where you have a 30-day Visa Exemption gets at the airport.
Sorry peter,
Unless the rules have changed since 2.002 this is not correct.
In 2002, with a view to marriage, I obtained a 90-day visa at the Thai Embassy in Antwerp without any difficulty.
Of course it may be different now.
Greetings
Didit
Yes, you can get a 90-day non-immigrant O visa. For a tourist visa, 60 days apply and then leave the country or extend it at immigration.
Thank you Peter,
So I think this would be the simplest solution to the whole problem!
No tourist visa but a Non-immigrant O
Hopefully Anne has been helped with this.
Greetings
Didit.
A non-immigrant visa is the simplest. It costs a little more and you have to provide some financial information. Everything else is arranged. I've been doing this for years. You can also extend it in Thailand. Immigration office is in Bangkok at Chaeng Wattana government complex. worth to view. Good trip.
We leave the day after tomorrow on a 90 day visa, so still available. You can with this
not in between from Thailand…