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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Thai girlfriend expecting, how do I get the baby in my name and to the Netherlands?
Reader question: Thai girlfriend expecting, how do I get the baby in my name and to the Netherlands?
Dear readers,
I have known my girlfriend in Thailand for three years. She is now 3 months pregnant and we are both very happy with that, but I don't know what to do to put the baby in my name and possibly get it to the Netherlands?
The question is, what should I do in Thailand and possibly in the Netherlands to confirm my paternity? And can I also marry her with a marriage that is also valid in the Netherlands?
Yours faithfully,
Honey
Ps When the baby is here I will let you know through this blog.
Honey
are you sure the baby is yours? then you must marry her in the NETHERLANDS, and then the baby will also be Dutch when he is born.
do not start before getting married for boudha in thailand because that is not valid in the netherlands and will cost you a lot of money for the family party there
Please note that there are also conditions for getting married in Europe, please inquire in your municipality and at the Thai consulate
greeting
if
Mater certa, pater incertus: paternity is always and everywhere uncertain!
Now there is such a thing as a DNA test. To ask a girl such a thing is always and everywhere an expression of distrust. How sensitive is something like that in Thailand? Do those “certainty tests” happen there?
Often a man is willing to bear all father responsibilities and is willing to make great sacrifices if that certainty is there...
ask the municipality or IND for information
this lick also helps
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/erkenning-kind/vraag-en-antwoord/kind-erkennen-waneer-waar
has also been discussed here
https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/kind-erkennen-thailand/
other sites
http://www.thailandforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=824457
http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/archive/index.php/f-201-p-2.html
The easiest is:
When the child is born Thai birth certificate of the child with your last name. Translate into English or Dutch and have it legalized at the Thai ministry and Dutch embassy. Every child born to a Dutch parent automatically acquires Dutch nationality and you can also apply for a Dutch passport at the embassy and have it registered in your municipality. Check with the embassy (email) before you go which other documents you still need to take with you, that sometimes changes.
This is not correct Leo. Every child of a Dutch mother will receive Dutch nationality! At birth, the father must take action. Recognize the child and take all requested legalized papers to the Dutch Embassy. Papers that are requested can easily be found on the website of the Dutch Embassy in Bangkok! !You can immediately apply for a Dutch passport (again with the requested legalized papers. Also available on the site.
I experienced the same problem 12 years ago.
Now met my current wife in February 2004 and got married after 5 days in a Wat at Buddha with no money or family because she was already married once.
In May she came to the Netherlands on holiday for 2 months and became pregnant.
In July I took all the papers well prepared to Thailand and legally married in Bangrat Bangkok.
After 3 months she received permission from the IND to come to NL.
Our child was born here in NL and has Dutch nationality.
If you marry on the Amphur, your paternity is immediately recognized by Thai law. Recognition of the child, for the Netherlands, can be done at the Dutch Embassy. She or he will immediately receive Dutch citizenship and you can immediately apply for a passport. The Ambassador reads some article and your wife has to sign that she agrees with it. You will also receive a nice document stating that she/he has been recognized by etc. etc. At least that's how it went with me. No translations or anything. Birth certificate and Mother with ID, that's it and marriage certificate, I thought. If you do not marry under Thai law, your child is not recognized and you still want to recognize it later after her/his 7th year of life, he/she must be interviewed at the Amphur whether you are/are her/his father. If she/he is not recognized in Thailand, you cannot recognize him/her in the Netherlands either. Being advised on the Amphur when registering and drawing up the birth certificate is NOT enough for recognition of the child. You also have to keep in mind that the hospital where the child is born will report this to the Amphur where the hospital is located and that the child will then be registered there at the address of the hospital. You have to change this, is ahead for a certain time, under penalty of a fine.
It's pretty simple.
Go with your pregnant girlfriend to the Dutch embassy in Bangkok before the birth, and say that you recognize the unborn child. Finished.
Of course you must have the important documents such as proof of ID, (translated!) proof of unmarried status, and both birth certificates.
If you want to get married, it is also very simple: go to the Dutch embassy with the above documents (but with your translated and legalized proof of unmarried status AND proof of income) and request a proof of "no objection". Get translated into Thai.
Pick out a nice amphur, and you'll be married in 10 minutes for, I think, 20 baht.
If you also want to have the marriage recognized in the Netherlands: Have the marriage papers translated and legalised,
go to the municipality in Ned with ALL papers. where you are registered, and if all goes well you will be told after 3 to 6 months that the marriage has been credited. (It is first investigated whether it is perhaps a marriage of convenience).
Nothing ready @Jasper and several. Why do so many people talk nonsense? You CANNOT RECOGNIZE your child at the Embassy, so stop giving nonsense! This is a consular decision of November 22, 2011!!! As of January 1, 2012 you can no longer recognize a child at the Embassy with the exception of Iraq!
The municipality in the Netherlands cannot recognize anything either because the child was NOT born in the Netherlands
If only you had opened the links from Rori at 12.08:2 and especially the XNUMXnd link! This one is from the Thailandblog!!! See the comments of Noa and Tino. That's how it is and NOT otherwise. There are also clear links (Noa). Open that and you can read it yourself
What a mess it is because fellow bloggers just write something without knowing or researching how it works!
This is the first step in your questions. The 2nd step and 3rd step are also easy! Simply meet the requirements set by the Dutch embassy in Bangkok. Can you see on their website to obtain the contract of marriage and step 3 traveling to the Netherlands is easy if you travel with your wife or if she gives permission, if she gives permission, also make sure that you have the whole paperwork ready. This can be read on defence.nl, so not foreign affairs! (There was a question about this here on the blog last week). Watch and read it!
Dear Miel,
First of all, congratulations on your girlfriend's pregnancy.
I don't know where you are in Thailand, but if you or your girlfriend don't live in the immediate vicinity of Bangkok, I would roughly do the following.
The declaration of your child (make sure you are there and that your name is included) and the marriage both take place at an Amphur (municipal house) and both must also be translated and legalized at the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs and by the Dutch Embassy.
Maybe an idea to combine this.
I had the papers translated and legalized myself, but you can also have this done by a translation agency for a fee. What I found easy about doing it myself is that we could immediately apply for a Thai passport for our daughter at the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
In the Netherlands it is a matter of making an appointment and submitting the legalized papers to the municipality for registration.
maurice
Miel, you must acknowledge the unborn fetus before birth at the ned a,bassade. Otherwise, you have a long way to go if you don't do this