Dear readers,

Some time ago there was correspondence about wine in cartons.

The wines produced in Thailand such as Mont Clair and Peter Vela are still widely available in the large supermarkets, but I prefer not to drink that wine.

The really imported wine in cartons has a blue tax sticker, instead of an orange one, like Jimboree, Bernardi and Chedar Creek. All cartons of 4,5 or 5 liters. Very drinkable and affordable for me, both white and red.

But what do I see? These wines are disappearing from the shelves everywhere. At Big C, Lotus and Makro. What is going on?

With kind regards,

Jacob

16 responses to “Reader question: Why are the wines in cartons disappearing from the shelves in Thailand?”

  1. guyido good lord says up

    I also noticed that .
    In the Rimping supermarket in Chiang Mai, all cartons have also disappeared.
    You can buy 2 liter bottles, but if you open it you have to drink it quickly, and that doesn't always work.
    I'll check with Makro in Mae Rim tomorrow
    Guyido

    • David hemmings says up

      Can I assume that those 2 liter bottles are easier to empty than those 5 liter cartons…..or am I missing something in your reasoning?

      • John VC says up

        Dear David, Cartons are vacuum drawn and remain so until they are empty, hence the longer shelf life.

        • David hemmings says up

          vacuum cartons once opened can no longer be called vacuum, unless you mean the system of milk cartons that are bactofugated very briefly at a high temperature, and make the milk last longer, but doubt whether you can also do this with wine ...

      • kees 1 says up

        Dear David
        Nice question it made me laugh 555 I understand your question. Jan already gives the answer
        I don't think you're a wine drinker. If you open a bottle of wine, you have to
        make within 2 days. On the third day he is not really feeling well anymore. When the bottle is opened, oxygen is added to the wine. And it will oxidize
        The cartons contain a plastic bag that has been vacuum-sealed. There is a tap tap
        So that no oxygen reaches the wine when filling your glass.
        So that you can store it for a very long time without loss of taste.

        Jan just Google there are hell good stoppers for sale so that you can keep an open bottle of wine for a long time
        can store (Antiox)

        Greetings Kees

    • Erik Sr. says up

      I only read fascinating stories about bottles and cartons.
      Would love to read an answer to the question.

      But maybe I'm wrong and I've had a glass too much? 😉

      .

  2. Guus van der Hoorn says up

    Yes, those cartons can be kept for more than 2 weeks because no air can get in, so very attractive.

  3. LOUISE says up

    @

    Buy a champagne cork with another pump case.
    Just pump, report when it's enough et voila, the wine / champagne can be stored very well in the refrigerator.

    LOUISE

    • Patrick says up

      You can't do that with Champagne or sparkling wine. You then suck the bubbles out of the liquid by pumping the vacuum.

  4. David hemmings says up

    yes I already thought it was just packed in cardboard….., with that plastic bag it is possible, you are not allowed to keep the cardboard upside down with the tap open (so it will probably not be done) I am a wine drinker but not a “cardboard wine drinker” and a I can manage a bottle in about 3 days ... otherwise you can hardly call yourself a wine drinker, rather a wine taster than ... (wink to the Dutch thrift) thanks for the ultimate explanation.

  5. math says up

    you can still get them at foodland in pattaya;

  6. Ivo says up

    Personally, I think the importer just doesn't feel like it anymore. Don't forget the retail trade is different here than I thought it was in NL. Traders have to pay money to have their products on the shelves.

  7. Eric Kuypers says up

    For weeks the red and white 5L Mont Clair were not for sale in Nongkhai at Lotus and Makro (that's all we have here). We don't have the Peter Vella here at all (you can find it over the bridge on the other side…) and the 'foreign' packs of wine not at all, never.

    There were then the 2L bottles of red Italian table wine and properly cooled, they really last longer than 2 days, is my experience. But they also ran out.

    My partner asked about the packs and the 2L bottles and the answer was so simple: the rubbish in Bangkok. That stopped delivery. And if something came in, they flew out the door en masse.

    There is now stock of 5L packs again. Limited because they stock the farang. But there is again. Good thing, too.

  8. DOUBLEUTCH says up

    I have a restaurant on
    comes from Malaysia and that is the problem
    True or False

  9. Robert says up

    Dear Jacob,

    in September 2013, the tax on wine was unexpectedly increased.

    The tax on 3 and 5 liter cartons of wine has gone up by about 1000 Baht per carton, so these packs are no longer imported.

    Robert

  10. Chantal says up

    No answer to the question, maybe a solution? Can't you approach the manufacturer directly and order from him?


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