Dear readers,

We are going to Thailand in January 2018 for 30 days and therefore do not apply for a visa. In between we will go to Singapore for 4 days. Do we need to apply for a visa in this case?

Please give your advice on this.

Thank you in advance for your response.

Regards,

Lewis

14 responses to “Reader question: From Thailand 4 days to Singapore, visa necessary?”

  1. lung addie says up

    As a Dutch or Belgian you do not need a visa for Singapore. Upon arrival in Singapore you will receive a stamp in your passport at the airport that allows you to stay in Singapore for 30 days. When you return to Thailand you will again receive a visa exemption of 30 days. So you don't have to request anything. Have a nice trip and stay.

    • Edward Dancer says up

      this is correct, but traveling by plane! otherwise you will get a visa of shorter duration.

      • lung addie says up

        Where do you get a shorter duration or, as stated below, 14 days? In Thailand or in Singapore? At least say so to avoid confusion.

        • Fransamsterdam says up

          For Singapore, 14 days would also be enough if they go 4 days, so it doesn't matter.

        • Bang Saray NL says up

          If here talks strictly about this trip it will be, if the visa rules change it can also be if you ask to make sure is ok.
          But a few years ago it was pointed out to me at the border in the north that if I wanted to cross the border I would only get 14 days upon return and he pointed out to me that I would then have a problem with my visa, as my return travel date was no longer correct.
          That is about land let that be clear.

          • RonnyLatPhrao says up

            As you say…. a few years ago

            Since December 31, 2016, someone who enters Thailand by land with a “Visa Exemption” also receives a 30-day stay. The 15 days (and not 14 days) have been abolished and replaced by 30 days, just like arrivals via an airport.
            This, however, with a limitation of 2 entries per calendar year.
            It took several months before they realized this at every border post, but it should be known everywhere by now.

            This note has also been published on the websites of all Thai embassies.
            As an example I give this one from the Belgian Embassy
            https://www2.thaiembassy.be/note-to-travelers-to-the-kingdom-of-thailand/

            Via an international airport, it remains a 30-day “Visa Exemption” and there are officially no restrictions in number. If you often perform this back-to-back, people will probably ask you what you are actually doing here. You will probably have to provide financial proof, among other things. 10 Baht as an individual traveller/000 Baht per family for entries on “Visa Exemption”. (When financial proofs are requested when entering with a “Tourist Visa” they are simply double ie 20 Baht as an individual traveller/000 Baht per family).

            FYI – This “Visa Exemption” of 30 days, whether it was obtained by land via a seaport or via an airport, can be extended by 30 days at any immigration office (border posts and airports excluded).

  2. co says up

    please note only at the airport you get 30 days, not if you travel by car or train then you only get 14 days

    • Rob V says up

      Did I miss something? Thought that since the end of 2016 you get 30 days 'visa exempt' by land, air and sea as a European.:
      http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/customize/62281-Summary-of-Countries-and-Territories-entitled-for.html

      Until the end of 2016, you only got q5 days by land. But I don't really follow the Thai visa rules (I have enough to worry about with Schengen) and I have to rely on posts on blogs like this. So who knows, maybe I missed something, but I didn't think so.

      • Rob V says up

        Q5 = 15

      • lung addie says up

        No Rob, you have not missed anything, it is those who still claim that you get a 15 day visa exemption by land who have missed something. It is completely true that since the end of 2016 the 15 day rule has been replaced by 30 days. It has been discussed several times here on the blog and yet people still continue to provide the incorrect 15 day information. “What use is a candle and glasses if the …….. doesn't want to read?” I fear that RonnyLatPhrao no longer even wants to respond to this incorrect information, that man is just tired of having to correct the same mistakes over and over again, and it doesn't help.

  3. Fransamsterdam says up

    Bangkok – Singapore is zum beispiel by train/bus 30 to 35 hours one way, so if someone goes to Singapore for 4 days, I think you can assume that they will choose the plane.
    And even if they would go by bus / train or for my part by bicycle, upon entering Thailand you already get almost a year based on the VER (Visa Exemption Rule) by land, sea and air for 30 days.
    Tip: If you read something that you think is incorrect, first check whether the knowledge you have is still up to date. Although that is not always easy in Thailand, I admit.

  4. Gerrit says up

    So enough about a visa,

    Is clear

    Another important tip.

    In Singapore you can “get” a 3-day public transport card at the airport, very cheaply (not for free of course)
    for sale downstairs at the subway, ask there and everyone will show you the counter.

    With this card you can use unlimited public transport in Singapore, so you can use the Metro (perfect network), double-decker bus (sit up front, beautiful view) and all ferries.

    Because of its card you do not have to book an expensive hotel in the center, but you can safely book a hotel near the harbor or in a suburb. Eating in the harbor district or suburb is also much cheaper.

    Singapore is a beautiful, green and very clean city. Enjoy it.

    Greetings Gerrit

  5. Kevin says up

    Perhaps the trip has already been booked and your tip is useless, the hotel has already been booked and the rest of the days have also been filled in, who knows? You don't and neither do I just the poster of this post.

  6. grain says up

    If you are staying in the Pattaya area you can avoid the busy Don Muang airport by traveling to Singapore from U-Tapao airport. If you do this on the 30th day of your stay and stay in Singapore for 3 or 4 days, you can in principle stay an additional 30 days in Thailand and thus have a holiday of 63/64 days.


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