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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Getting married in Thailand to my Thai fiancee
Reader question: Getting married in Thailand to my Thai fiancee
Dear readers,
I'm getting married this summer with my Thai girlfriend in Thailand. It will be a simple Buddhist wedding and will also be registered at the civil registry in Thailand and the Netherlands.
I would like to hear from other readers of this forum what their experience is with getting married in Thailand, which papers I should bring from the Netherlands and get tips that I have not yet thought of myself.
This would help me a lot and hope to have a carefree wedding next summer my Thai fiancee.
Thank you very much for the effort,
Yours faithfully,
Jeroen
I think you are confusing two things. A Buddhist wedding has no legal status whatsoever. you don't have to bring anything (except the necessary money). The ceremony does not lead to registration in the Thai or Dutch civil registry. If you want to get legally married in Thailand, check the website of the Dutch embassy in Bangkok.
Dear Jeroen, As Hans says and writes, there is nothing more to add. For the Netherlands this is simply a marriage of convenience and not legally valid at all. If you still want to do it right, you have a lot of paperwork to do. For you your birth certificate, proof that you are not married, everything not older than 6 months! This also applies to your future wife, copy of passports (does she have that?) All her papers must be legalized. If all papers are in order, you can get a deed that you can get married.
The website of the embassy is well stated!
I also have little or nothing to add to Hans' post. Practical information can be found on the embassy website. You might find this helpful if you want some extra reading:
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/category/expats-en-pensionado/trouwen-in-thailand/
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/documenten-huwelijk-thailand/
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/trouwerij-thailand/
Dear Jeroen,
I married my Thai girlfriend last September, only for Thai law and not in accordance with Buddhist traditions. Our marriage has yet to be registered in the Netherlands.
Noah is right that you should have originals of your birth certificate and a statement that you are not married or divorced. You go to the Dutch embassy with these papers and have them verified and translated into English. Cost about 5.000 baht.
Then all these documents must be translated into Thai (by a sworn translator) and then you take these papers and those of your wife (birth certificate, copy ID, house book) to a district office where the marriage papers are arranged. If you have that done in Bangkok, I recommend that you arrange it through a translation-cum-marriage agency (there is one opposite the embassy; one-stop shopping for about 15.000 Baht) because some officials at the district office can be annoying. This certainly applies if you have not lived together in Thailand until now and one can get the impression that this is a marriage of convenience. You can also ask difficult questions at a local district office or ask for photos of the house where you live together, of the Thai family, etc.
NB: After all, there are foreigners who marry a Thai woman for money (I have heard amounts of 200.000 Baht) in order to stay here in Thailand with an associated visa. After receiving the papers, the foreigner goes his own way here. I know Thai women who no longer know who they married or where their 'husband' is.
This whole procedure can be done in a few hours. This is followed by the translation of the Thai marriage documents into Dutch and the registration of the marriage in the Dutch civil registry. That's the stage I'm in right now.
I had already looked at a link from Rob V and there I saw prices coming from advice from fellow bloggers in which you just see how you get screwed in Thailand. Your dear Chris confirms it again. I see amounts coming along that makes a horse hiccup. I am officially married in the Philippines, all paperwork NSO, legalizations at DFA, Paper registration City Hall. I haven't lost 2000 Bht yet. Explain to me why Thailand is the only one so expensive??? farang paid???
dear Noah
Each country has its own prices. The embassy fee is 2 * 2400 Baht = 4800 Baht. A document to verify that the divorce certificate is official; the second document is the English translation.
Official translation to Thai: 4000 Baht; marriage fee at the district office 3000 Baht; taxi: 300 Baht; office labor costs: 2500 baht.
For me no dowry and no party with the family. Saves roughly 300.000 Baht.
I assume you also paid the bill in the Philippines.
Getting married in the Netherlands is much more expensive….(wink)
I was legally married 6 years ago here in Thailand, now I read that you have to register or register the marriage in the Netherlands.
This is not true at all, if the relevant authorities, from which you receive benefits, inform them in writing, with a copy of the marriage certificate, translated into English, and legalized, everything is complete, without
additional costs.
Dear Henk B. You don't have to do anything, you can. So your comment about this being totally untrue isn't entirely true…lol. It can be useful to do it just in case, but if you don't want to, that's ok too!
http://www.denhaag.nl/home/bewoners/loket/burgerzaken/to/Buitenlandse-huwelijksakte-omzetten-in-een-Nederlandse-akte.htm
Everyone has to weigh up for themselves, I don't see any disadvantages.
There really isn't much to add to the above. I have completed the entire procedure of registration and now have a marriage certificate and an international marriage certificate, costs 32 euros, which was not too bad.
1 thing that I rarely read anything about and that I hadn't counted on is the M46 form from the IND, facts from the past must be filled in on this, ask your wife when and where previously married and divorced and with whom and if it can sign!
An M46 statement is an advice from the Aliens Police and Immigration and Naturalization Service (IND). With this advice, the municipality can assess whether there may be a marriage of convenience.
When do you need an M46 statement?
You need an M46 statement if you or your partner do not have Dutch nationality and:
you want to get married;
you want to enter into a registered partnership;
you want to register your marriage or registered partnership that was contracted abroad in the Municipal Personal Records Database (BRP).
Moderator: please only respond to the reader's question.
Thanks for all the posts so far, there are definitely some good tips in there. There are always those things that you overlook and find out on the day of the wedding. Of course, Buddhist marriage has no legal status in the Netherlands, but it is a beautiful tradition that I would like to share with my girlfriend. We also go to the town hall in Thailand and the Netherlands to have our marriage legally recorded.
So you have all the documents you need listed above.
Dear Jeroen, it is still quite a bit of paperwork and back and forth to translation agency, ministry and embassy, and also in NL at city offices, I, and others too I assume, advise you to start well in advance with all documents to collect. SC Trans & Travel Co. Ltd. (SCT&T) can take care of everything you need in Thailand, sitting opposite the NL embassy in Bangkok.
Success and good luck!
There are also many translators at the Ministry of the Interior, these are considerably cheaper than others (compared to the embassy) and you still have to go there to have it translated. In any case, take an international statement from the municipality with you, which you need to have that contract drawn up at the embassy. Do this in the morning and it will be ready at 12:00. You can also always email me [email protected]
Tip, secure your pension in advance if things go wrong later.
You can compile this yourself together with her ID or with a questionnaire from your pension site.
My self-drafted agreement was legally valid in NL.
Good luck.
It is the Dutch tax authorities that require you to be married and the marriage registered, in NL, to get all the tax benefits there are, as a married couple.
My marriage is registered with the Dutch Aliens Service, at the City Hall of Rotterdam and in The Hague. My son and daughter are also registered there and can possibly have a. Get a Dutch birth certificate, if necessary, from The Hague. My wife also has a BSN number, formerly a social security number, and receives a tax credit. There are even more advantages.
About legalization of Dutch papers (what I miss here) is that you have to get stamps in The Hague, people sometimes want to issue an international marriage certificate at municipalities with the argument that is good, but if you come to the embassy in Bangkok, you miss the stamp and no paper .
kind regards, Evert