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Home » Reader question » Convert Thai nationality to Luxembourg nationality
Convert Thai nationality to Luxembourg nationality
Dear readers,
My friend's son (19 years old) wants to convert his Thai nationality to a Luxembourg (Grand Duchy) nationality. Does anyone have any idea how to get started? Can this be done at the embassy in Brussels or do you have to go to Thailand?
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Jurgen
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Jurgen, converting or exchanging will not just happen. Every country has conditions for acquiring nationality and there are agreements about this in the EU. This site may be able to help.
https://www.emnnetherlands.nl/sites/default/files/2020-07/EMN_benchmark_naturalisatie.pdf
You will have to live in Lux for a number of years (three? five?) and I think you have to master one of the national languages. Whether you will lose your Thai nationality or whether you can have dual nationality will depend on the national legislation in Lux and in TH.
I would get some information from the Luxembourg IND, because they will probably have them there.
One more thing: the young man is 19 and therefore still a minor in TH. He can't even apply for it now.
Thank you ! he has been living in Luxembourg with my girlfriend for 15 years (previously with her ex)
You are not providing any information on which to base a specific answer. Does he already live in Luxembourg or does he think he can just choose a country? Apparently you haven't searched yet, because Google gives you a lot of information within seconds. See for example:
https://www.expatica.com/lu/moving/visas/luxembourg-citizenship-774576/
For those who don't click the link, here are some of the requirements:
To acquire Luxembourg nationality by naturalization, there are some conditions, including the following:
Be 18 years of age or older at the time of application.
Have legally lived in Luxembourg for seven consecutive years.
Pass an oral test in Luxembourgish.
Attend three civic instruction classes
Measure integrity requirements.
The language test will be the most difficult, Latvian is quite dialectical (multiple languages mixed together).
There are three official languages in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg: Luxembourgish, French and German.
One of those three will suffice.
If he's been there for 15 years, he'll probably know one or even all three.
CornelisvThanks for the link
It does not seem to me that they are handing out Luxembourgish passports at the embassy. If your girlfriend doesn't have the Luxembourg nationality, you can't even get started. If so, how did she get it herself? Then there is also a very long way for her son to go…
There are cheaper ways to buy off conscription in Thailand. Say for a few tons of baht. The path that boy wants to follow costs more money and more effort.
Here is a link where military service is discussed.
https://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-military-service/
Simply staying out of Thailand until the age of thirty is the easiest solution.
Of course you have to be able to stay legally in another country or want to live like a fugitive criminal until you are thirty.
Am I missing something or is it stated somewhere that the goal is to avoid military service?
No, RonnyLatYa, but can you think of another reason why a 19-year-old would be so eager to become a Luxembourger?
Because with the Luxembourg nationality he can go wherever he wants in Luxembourg/Europe as long as he wants and work where he wants without having to meet all kinds of conditions that apply to non-Europeans?
If he has that nationality, the same rules apply to him as to Luxembourgers. Makes many things a lot easier if he wants to stay and work in Luxembourg/Europe. Also consider pension, health insurance, social safety net, etc... even traveling with a Luxembourgish ID may be easier.
He is currently an adult Thai for Luxembourg/Europe, regardless of the fact that in Thailand this is only at 20 years old, and he may no longer be able to stay in Luxembourg without meeting certain conditions.
Before that, he probably stayed with his mother as a minor, who probably has the necessary residence permit.
But he doesn't give much information. It is also only guessing at the reason, but they don't have to be just to avoid military service...
The reasons I gave are also the main reason that my wife has been Belgian for 15 years and she did not have to do military service in Thailand.
Ronny, it is now clear that the young man has been living in Lux for 15 years. It is a pity that the questioner did not report this immediately; that would have prevented a lot of questions.
What you say about the advantages of a Lux passport also applies to a NL or BE passport. I don't see any difference with a Lux passport.
Did I claim somewhere that this does not apply to a NL or BE passport
Of course, this also applies to a NL or BE passport. That's why I included my wife's example. And that is why I also put Luxembourgish/European.
But actually this is not at issue here, nor is a German or French passport.
The question is about a Luxembourgish passport and because you asked if I can think of any other reason than military service why a 19 year old would be so eager to become a Luxembourger?
As you yourself say, he should have given more information first, but then immediately conclude without that information that it will be to avoid military service….
What I already mentioned as an advantage and without that information anyone else could have come up with…
Hello, I lived and worked in Luxembourg, but at that time 20 years ago, only people from Portugal could obtain a residence and work permit and could become Luxembourgish after 5 years. if I'm not mistaken,,,
My wife from Colombia got the Luxembourg ID by mistake because a few days there were 4 policemen to reclaim the paper. when I asked why, it was said that no one from outside Europe ever gets a work or residence permit…
PS, she also had a Dutch passport
The current requirements, not those of 20 years ago, are above in my earlier response.