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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Does work take precedence over love in Thailand?
Dear readers,
Was in Thailand for a first meeting with a Thai after 9 weeks of chatting and skyping. The first week we celebrated vacation together, after that she had to go to work.
That first week was absolutely fantastic. But the second week was less, given that she had to go to work. If I had to complete the day alone, there was only time for dinner.
The pressure at work is high and she also takes care of the family with her salary. She tells me that she is unhappy with her job but has to take care of her family.
How can I win her heart because I love this woman very much?
All advice is welcome.
Regards,
French (from Belgium)
Sorry but the question doesn't seem quite right to me, maybe you're asking whether your partner puts her work above love. How 2 people relate to each other and react to each other depends of course on their personality and situation. You can't steal how "the Belgian", "the Dutchman" or "the Thai" is, because there is none. The Belgian/Dutch/Thai does not exist, the individual does.
You may have known or noticed that people in Thailand have a lot fewer vacation days, often only official days off. Of course it depends on the job... a better job has a higher salary and other benefits such as vacation days. So I assume for the sake of convenience that your girlfriend has few vacation days or other employment rights, it is hard work for the average Thai. You don't want to jeopardize your job, there has to be something on the table... Now I wasn't there, but it doesn't seem strange to me that continuing to work weighed very heavily, but that doesn't mean that love is less important but you have to set priorities. At a later time (better job, migration to Belgium, etc.) some pressure will be released, hopefully leaving more time for you and love.
In Europe we are often well endowed with relatively many vacation days, so you can easily go on holiday for 3-4 weeks without any worries. Only you (you together!!) can determine whether the love is enough, but I don't see any red signals yet. Of course, it is also normal for your partner to worry about her family. The social system is also of little value, so the children often have to support or fully support their parents. There is plenty written about that on this blog. Follow your heart (enjoy the love and attention), use your mind too: if you don't feel good about something, see if that gut feeling is due to being unfamiliar with each other's culture and situation OR if something is not normal, if alarm bells are ringing start ringing, then you know enough: if you get the idea that her family is more important than you are to her, or if she is asking for a lot and your wallet seems more important, then you should take a closer look at how the relationship is going. now stands for. The other way around, of course, she also doesn't know whether all your intentions and expressions are completely sincere. Assume the good, enjoy yourself, but don't be fooled in case you or she is unlucky enough to have met a “wrong person”. But with what you write here I mainly say: enjoy the limited time you have together, it's difficult enough for both of you, isn't it? 🙂
Dear Frans, I think the best course of action is to let her continue what she is doing, which is to take care of her family. You can only win her heart if you take on the burdens she now bears, so take care of her and her family financially.
be big), so your heart and especially your wallet is big enough to bear those burdens, do it. Just be careful when you start this, discuss carefully what is and is not possible, otherwise it could become a fiasco for you financially.
Dear French,
You have to keep work and private life (love) separate from each other everywhere in the world, so the question of work over love does not apply.
Without going too much into the differences, I don't have to explain to you that having a job in Thailand is nothing like ours in the west!
You have been to Thailand for the first time after 9 weeks of chatting and Skype.
Were you already familiar with the country and culture? If not, I would advise you to delve into this a bit more, here on the TB it is also full of good and of course less good advice.
Because if I read it like this you are going very fast and without pointing the finger, the sentence of she tells me that she is unhappy because of her work but has to take care of her family, I have heard that before.
And love sometimes makes blind, I don't mean to say that this is the case in your case.
But the fact that you ask how can I win her heart says that it's not mutual yet.
My advice would be to let the relationship develop at its own pace.
greeting
My personal opinion is that you are lucky that the lady has a job. Having a job in Thailand is already a privilege, many do not have a job.
Best French (from Belgium)
I'm just going to answer your question, no value advice and no moral talk, just straightforward as it is. this is your question: quote “The pressure at work is high and she also takes care of the family with her salary. She tells me that she is unhappy with her job but has to take care of her family.
How can I win her heart because I love this woman very much? end quote.
By ensuring that she has the same, or preferably a higher income, without having to do the work that makes her unhappy. in other words, ensure that she has enough income to provide for herself and her family.
This is my answer, please rate it correctly.
Yours faithfully,
Lex K.
I want to make a few comments about:
1. many Thai people do not derive their pleasure in working from the salary, but from their colleagues. Thai always talk about: 'my friend in office'. Many colleagues are therefore connected to each other outside of work. New colleagues are not recruited through advertisements, but through the network of existing colleagues (a friend, the neighbour's daughter, a former classmate, an old fellow villager);
2. For many Thais the ideal is: not working but relaxing at home. Working is good for money but the networks are the same as the private networks. So if you can afford it, you don't work. Work is hardly seen as personal development;
3. Many Thais earn very little so that there are enough alternatives to earn the same amount with other activities: a shop, selling homemade items, a web shop. If you have a relative who is rich (or married to a rich foreigner) you can live off his pocket;
4. the number of vacation days is very small. As a lecturer at a university, I myself have 10 paid days off per year, in addition to the large number of national and Buddhist holidays. In the Netherlands I had about 35;
5. Personally I hate people who take advantage of others while they can also roll up their sleeves themselves. I don't care if it's paid or unpaid work. In a relationship with a Thai woman you talk about these things.
Franske .... In Thailand they work to support their family, some have to work hard, others from the family lie in the hammock all day, they all eat from the same pot! The only thing you can do to spend more time with your wife is to sponsor the family so that she no longer has to work. Of course for a European this is not the most normal thing. You are married to her and not to the family, they think differently than us (culture difference)
Kind regards, John
It could also just be a play.
A friend of mine tried that too. Always complaining that she got tired of working, to the point of being annoying. If she came in first say I don't have any energy tonight. While she had a fairly simple job, and at least half of her time was spent on games and chatting on the phone. The intention was of course very simple, if you just slide 10.000 baht more, then I can be at home all day. Very simple answer, as long as you want to give everything away to your family, you just keep working, and if you think you want more money, then you just look for a job where you have to do something and which also yields something instead of lounging in your chair and playing with your phone.
After that it was over immediately. You have to draw the line somewhere with your girlfriend or wife and sometimes you have to be pretty hard about it. Then comes the pout and then maybe the tears but let them go. Some go on and on about buying houses, buying land, sinsod, gold, more money etc etc. Never forget that many marriages, not only farang Thai but also plain Thai Thai come about primarily because Thai women are mainly interested in 'marrying up' '. That comes first and when it clicks in the relationship, people sometimes think about love. Thai men are a lot harder on their wives in that respect. Most women know that too and they test their future partner, so to speak. That doesn't mean you don't have to support your partner, but be reasonable and just leave responsibilities like supporting family with her.
I sometimes say to my girlfriend, if I want to give money away to family so much, I can also transfer it to my parents.
So personally I think the questioner issue is just a matter of swallowing it, enjoy yourself during the day, just let her go to work and take a look at it for a while.
thanks rob
her own salary is ok, but chatting with me made her focus on her work less and it just so happens that I am with her. her work.
So what messed up our plans and you I was upset , so here I misunderstood what was not good in our fledgling relationship
Jah, I also have one who has to work 6 days and take care of the son and the household.
She has to wash and iron on Sundays, but try to take things off your hands by cooking and doing the housework while you're at home, so she can pay more attention to your relationship on Sundays..
Was in Thailand for a first meeting with a Thai after 9 weeks of chatting and skyping. The first week we celebrated vacation together, after that she had to go to work.
How can I win her heart because I love this woman very much?
Well well, that's very fast, or do you mean you're in love, that's something else. Someone who is in love is capable of strange things keep both feet on the ground I would say
indeed BerH!
falling in love is a form of being positively overwrought and that can provoke strange things.
look through it, and try not to lose sight of reality!
but most of all, enjoy the beautiful time to come!!
that's my motto!
(but keep both feet on the ground)
haha, exactly the opposite here
I had been looking forward to a week together with my beloved, but then she had to go to Bali for four days from work.
She unhappy and wanted to tell her boss that she really couldn't. I think she should prioritize her job.
So she wants to choose love, I think her work is more important.