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Reader Question: My wife has a multiple entry Schengen visa; can she go to the Netherlands every 3 months?
Dear readers,
My wife (a Thai) has a multiple entry visa for Schengen until May 2017. Does this mean that she no longer needs to apply for a visa until then and can simply travel to the Netherlands every 3 months?
Greetings,
Johan
I think it really means that. My wife has a multiple entry visa until August 2015, so 3 months in, 3 months out. Not long ago I asked a question about this here on Thailand blog. Can still be found. Rob V is an expert, knows everything about it :). According to him, an embassy can issue a multiple entry visa for 5 years. Gr.Gerrit
Sounds like a bus Gerrit, so Johan's partner can travel in, around and out of the entire Schengen area until the end of the validity date. Maximum stay time remains 90 days out of 180 days. You can cut this up. During a check, they check how many days you were in the Schengen area in the past 180 days, this should not be more than 90 days. If you want to keep it easy, you come for 90 days, stay away for 90 days and alternate this in the coming years.
I wouldn't call myself an expert, then you have to be with someone who knows the Visa Code by heart, it contains all the rules. I learned most of it through the folder that was once on IND.nl, rijksoverheid.nl, internationalepartner.nl and a few pieces from the Visa Code and the Visa Handbook (both are official EU documents, tough stuff). Thailandblog has also had a wonderful dossier on the Schengen visa for some time now.
Your similar reader question can be found here:
https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/thaise-vrouw-ander-visum/
All this should amply answer Johan's question, the simplest answer without nuances and details is: yes, that's right (90 days on, 90 off, so not 3 whole months). 🙂
Hopefully unnecessarily: you still have to be able to demonstrate at the border that you meet the requirements as a visa holder (travel insurance, accommodation, financial resources, etc.), so take a copy of the important papers with you in case the KMAR (if you travel via the Netherlands but you don't have to) or another border post for proof. A visa does not entitle you to entry, they may refuse you entry to the Schengen area if they cannot determine that you meet the requirements.
There is an exception to this: For family members of EU citizens who do not travel to their own country (outside your own country, as an EU citizen you have the right to free movement of persons, freedom of movement) and who travel together with the Union citizen: then almost all obligations, including the fee of 60 euros, will expire. A Thai married partner of a Dutch or Belgian can, for example, apply for a free visa for Spain, proof of the family relationship (with the marriage certificate) is sufficient. No further papers required if you are traveling together. But most applicants simply have to meet the standard set of requirements.
@Rob V. The information you provided is incorrect. If you have fulfilled the obligations for obtaining a Schengen visa (read, for example, proper travel insurance, financial resources, etc.) you do not have to carry around copies. The visa issuer (usually the embassy) has checked the requirements and approved them for issue. The fact that a visa does not automatically grant entry is of a completely different nature. The KMAR only checks for outstanding fines, being identified as a criminal, etc
In short, of a completely different nature. Gerard, former KMAR officer.
Dear Gerard, I would like to take that for granted, however, there are several official sources that disagree with you. Whether "you" of the KMAR are more flexible with this in practice, you can probably tell or confirm - although there are also some stories of people who have had the greatest trouble with the KMAR and were crying in an office waiting for the Dutch partner -. The official sources really state that you should be able to show this paperwork because people can ask for it and possibly refuse access (I think it will hardly happen):
Source 1: The Schengen Visa Code, an official EU document setting out the rights and obligations for Schengen travelers, article 47 on public information:
“the mere possession of a visa does not automatically entitle entry and that visa holders are required to provide proof that they fulfill the entry conditions at the external borders, as set out in Article 5 of the Schengen Borders Code.”
Source: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?mode=dbl&lang=nl&ihmlang=nl&lng1=nl,en&lng2=bg,cs,da,de,el,en,es,et,fi,fr,ga,hu,it,lt,lv,mt,nl,pl,pt,ro,sk,sl,sv,&val=500823:cs
Source 2: Rijksoverheid.nl
Bring documents with you when traveling with a Schengen visa
A Schengen visa does not always grant you automatic access to the Schengen area. You may first have to show documents about your financial situation or the purpose of your trip. Therefore, always take copies of the documents you need for the Schengen visa application with you when you travel.
See: http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/visa/visum-voor-kort-verblijf-nederland
Source 3: IND>nl folder Short Stay Visa:
“At Schiphol, or another border post, your destination can also be checked
and your financial resources. Always take the necessary information and documents with you on your trip to the Netherlands. This prevents delays and other inconveniences at the border.”
See: https://ind.nl/particulier/kort-verblijf/formulieren-brochures/Paginas/default.aspx
Source 4: The Embassy in Bangkok:
With a visa (C and D), the embassy in Thailand also sticks an instruction sheet with the requirements, it is explicitly stated here that you must be able to demonstrate that you are insured, must be able to demonstrate financial resources, etc. See the second photo in this message, this is from 2 years ago, the complicity with VP has of course expired on 1-1-14: http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/showthread.php?44701-Met-MVV-toegestaan-om-in-ander-land-dan-NL-aan-te-komen&p=580390&viewfull=1#post580390
Now I don't want to chat and I want to take your word for it that the KMAR never asks to see financial resources, demonstrate purpose of travel, etc., but I still think it is not wise to say that the paperwork does not have to be taken along as several official documents. sources - with the Schengen Visa Code being the main source that all authorities must adhere to - say that you must be able to demonstrate at the border that you meet all the conditions for the visa. It goes without saying that it is not practical, and if the KMAR asks for the documents in practice, according to you, it would of course be nice. Fortunately, we never had any problems with the KMAR, my girlfriend could always walk through after showing her visa after only answering that she came here to visit her friend (me).
Finally: for readers who want to know more about the EU regulations regarding the empty exemption and minimum documents for EU family members who can use the right of free movement, see: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm
– I hope the moderator will let this post through, I just wanted to make something clear about the regulations but realize that we are now straying from the question, apologies for that but I am just trying to inform people as correctly as possible. Knowledge (rights and obligations) and preparation is more than half the battle and of course you don't want any hassle with the authorities about your visa…-
When my mother-in-law came to the Netherlands for a holiday a few years ago and had neatly applied for and received a Schengen visa at the Embassy, for which all necessary documents had been submitted, it took 3 hours to get her past the KMAR. Only when I agreed to sign another guarantee (drawn up by the KMAR, so no pre-printed form), in which I stated that I stood surety for all the costs of my mother-in-law, then the KMAR was willing to give her access to the Netherlands. When asked why this had to be done again, because that guarantee statement was already a condition for getting a visa from the Embassy, I was told: Yes, that is the case, but we have our own responsibility.
So yes apparently the employees of the KMAR can give quite a bit of their own interpretation to the laws. Mind you, it took 2 KMAR employees 3 hours before I could finally welcome my mother-in-law to the Netherlands. How welcome she was……………
I have to agree with Rob V. on this one. About 6 years ago I spent at least 1 1/2 hours at customs when my then Thai girlfriend arrived at Schiphol with a VKV. I was surprised when the customs officer informed us that the visa in my then girlfriend's passport did not automatically grant access to the Schengen area. According to the customs officer, we had to prove that my girlfriend had met the requirements for the visa.
Neither of us had copies with us, because the website of the embassy in BKK did not yet indicate that the visa holder had to bring copies during her/his trip to the Schengen area.
Dear Japanese,
This is a misconception many people have; customs has nothing to do with passport and visas, the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee checks the passports and visas and determines whether you are allowed to enter the Netherlands, if you have passed passport control, then you only come to customs and they only check whether you are prohibited goods, or goods on which import duties must be paid, with you, such as counterfeit items or souvenirs that exceed a certain value.
Yours faithfully,
Lex K.
Rob V. The information you provide is absolutely correct and correct as a bus!
I can confirm the above, the embassy had stated with the visa that I had to bring copies of all documents. However, I had not made any copies. The embassy sent them to me.
Picked up from the post office at the last minute and taken unopened. When they asked for a guarantee at passport control, I thought it was the document signed at the municipality. No, that piece was not there, in short, 3 hours later due to a broken pneumatic tube, I was able to sign a form made by them (KMAR), and I could look for our luggage, which had long since been removed from the belt. Fortunately, the collectors were still waiting for us.