Dear readers,

Hello dear readers, I have a question and maybe someone can enlighten me. My Thai girlfriend lives with me in the Netherlands and of course has a residence permit for 5 years. She can travel freely within the Schengen area. As far as I know, she is allowed to stay in another Schengen country (outside the Netherlands) for 3 months.

Now we have the plan to go on holiday to Croatia by car. Croatia is not a Schengen country and is therefore leaving the EU area. Is this possible without causing problems at the EU border if we want to go back (i.e. the Slovenian border)? I assume that the same rules apply if she temporarily goes to Thailand (family visit) and re-enters at Schiphol. Does she have to show her passport and residence card at the border? How does that work?

Another question, does she need a visa for Croatia? Of course we don't want any problems.

With kind regards,

Chiang Mai

5 responses to “Reader question: Is it possible to leave the Schengen area with a residence permit?”

  1. Rob V says up

    Traveling back will not be a problem, with the residence permit and Thai passport she can enter, leave and travel anywhere in the Schengen area for a holiday. Whether she does not leave Schengen or enters via the Netherlands or elsewhere within Schengen is irrelevant with a residence permit (also possible with a short-stay visa, provided that such a person can demonstrate that he/she will travel on to the country of visa issue). So the answer to question 1 is not “no problem”.

    So what you have to look up is whether Thais need a visa for Croatia.
    If I do a quick google, the answer to the second question is “yes she needs a visa”.
    At least that links this site I found through the Embassy of Croatia. You can enter the country of origin on that website.
    http://www.mvep.hr/en/consular-information/visas/visa-requirements-overview/netherlands-(the),194.html#p

    So I would contact the Croatian embassy here in the Netherlands about a visa for your Thai girlfriend.

    • Rob V says up

      The link was automatically broken when sending (because of the comma), here's the link again:

      http://www.mvep.hr/en/consular-information/visas/visa-requirements-overview/netherlands-(the),194.html#

      Alternative: select the entire line from http… to ….html#p , click with your right mouse button, choose *copy* and then right-click in your internet address bar and choose *paste*.

    • noel castille says up

      Contact the Croatian embassy have also done this in Belgium travel this summer with my
      Thai woman also to Croatia . Croatia accepts any person regardless of nationality who has a valid
      So Schengen visa has no problem last year traveled to Croatia the borders of Slovenia
      no longer existed when you come from Austria border posts were open no more control. But the
      border with Croatia was still with passport control except those of the European countries
      separate strip is provided for this.

  2. Jacob Kleijberg says up

    In your case I would simply go to the duane, or the municipality, or the town hall dept. foreigners cq. passports c. chengen destinations etc. go ask. Because for the sake of convenience I will assume that you live in the Netherlands, which you do not clearly state.

    In fact, you already answered the question yourself. Only with a valid residence permit (Chengen Visa) can someone enter the Chengen area. And you mention that your girlfriend has it. Who's going to stop her then? I would be more concerned if she is allowed to enter Croatia and Slovenia?

  3. Thomas vanden Breul says up

    Two things are being confused here. It is said “residence permit (Schengen visa) or this would be the same. These are two completely different documents with different status and rights. With a Schengen visa you may only travel to and stay in countries that are members of or affiliated with the Schengen Treaty. Validity/stay maximum 3 months. Apply in Thailand at the Dutch embassy. There are many countries that fall under both situations.
    A residence permit has a completely different status. This is not a visa, but an official residence status that you obtain in the Netherlands after applying for and going through the IND procedure and after granting you are also registered in the municipal personal records database. You live in the Netherlands, but you are also a European citizen. This means that you can travel and reside freely in all EU countries and treaty countries such as Switzerland.
    If you want to go to other countries, you need a visa or free entry is possible with your Thai passport. For example, you can go to Turkey with a Thai passport without a visa, while Dutch people need a visa. With a Schengen visa you also do not have the right of entry to the UK. (Even if you do not have a residence permit, you will still need to apply for a visa for the UK.)
    This is all easy to find on the internet.

    HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT A SCHENGEN VISA AND A RESIDENCE PERMIT ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT AND THEREFORE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE COMPARED WITH EACH OTHER.


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