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Home » Reader question » Reader question: Can a pensioner get a work permit and visa for Thailand?
Dear readers,
As a “pensionada” can you get a work permit (+ visa) to give integration courses to Thai women who go to the Netherlands?
I now know that as a pensioner you are not allowed to work, not even voluntary work. I am a guitarist, but I am not allowed to give guitar lessons or play/perform in a band. Even if I don't earn anything, or only an expense allowance.
Know that I can of course do it all "illegally", but I don't feel like messing around.
Am I really condemned to “be behind the geraniums or orchids”?
Please answer to the point.
Do
According to the purport of Thai law, you could consider giving integration courses as work that cannot be done by a Thai and/or for which there are not enough Thais available.
Unfortunately, as far as I know this profession is not recognized and so there are no rules for it except that you will be told that it is not allowed.
If you call your integration course 'Dutch lessons', I don't think there is any objection.
How you interpret the 'Dutch lesson' is your business.
So keep it simple and ask permission for a Dutch school from the relevant authorities, after which you can apply for a work permit.
I am here as a 'pensionada', and enjoy giving free English lessons. Sometimes even more Than I would like, because the enthusiasm to be taught is great.
Not the least time to sit behind geraniums here…..
Been doing this for six years.
Have you ever met a lady who tried to get a foreign partner. She asked me if I would like to teach them some English. I wanted to do this, also for free. After three weeks I stopped when the students told me in any way they had to contribute towards the costs. One should have given the furnisher a loan to buy a new moped. Apparently people had not heard of paying back. If one even exploits and abuses one's own people, I have seen it all.
So you don't call it a course or work, but a briefing. reading , free of charge
I have always understood that as a person on disability benefits you are not allowed to work illegally. Whether that also applies to old age pensioners is completely new to me. Did I miss anything?
Chander
Whether or not you are allowed to work in Thailand under Thai law – because that is what this is about – it is completely irrelevant whether you are a disability or state pension.
Hi Will,
Hans Vermeulen (Sandy Coast) lives on Koh Samui and makes music there with his wife… maybe you can approach him.
Greetings
Thanks for the tip; do you know how i can reach him? (e mail/ 06 number). I am in CMai (May/June).
Will Schappin
I checked with the immigration once (a year ago, just when I got my Visa O retirement. In the first place you have to apply for a whole new visa, if you could get a work permit at all.
Then you also have to pay taxes.
And all this to a lot of waiting and paper clutter.
I wanted to use my computer skills to earn a few extra bucks. I also said this there. The answer was that it would entail too much hassle and it would also be a shame about the visa you just received.
But, as long as I do it at people's house (as a "friendship"), there is nothing wrong.
This was said to me. However, I was not allowed to do my work in public buildings, bars, restaurants, etc.
So I “help” at home and when I'm done, I hope my “friends” are so satisfied and bring me new “friends” again. Of course it is certain that I will get something for my friend service.
You can also do this in your case.
Thank you for your response.
For guitar lessons, Dutch lessons would be possible, I will do that at home. An eventual band (music) is then not possible, when performing it is public.
And I'm not sooooooooo good that they want me...
Do
At the bottom of the application forms for a visa it is stated that you are aware that you are not allowed to perform work. This is signed by you for acknowledgment
Don't all be so stuffy folks.
This is not allowed and this is not possible.
It seems that the Dutch thought and fear is gradually being translated into Thai.
When I came to live here already 9 years ago.
On a Retirement visa , I also wanted to give something back to the local population .
That is why I volunteered for a year to teach practical English at a government high school near me.
This for 3 mornings a week.
So no PAY.
As a token of appreciation because I was doing well in their eyes, the school board at one point gave me a certain amount of money in appreciation for my work.
I thanked them for that and for their good intentions, and asked if something could be done with this money.
So I wanted to give it away.
They were very happy and there were some options.
My so to speak simple voluntary salary was based on nothing.
The money ended up with a student from a poor family.
Who had a good mentality and high in IQ than her fellow students.
But are you going to set up something here with Retirement for your own gain.
Then I am also convinced that if you are betrayed by anyone, at the Emigration Police.
You will smoke a very heavy pipe.
In other words, back to where you came from, what do they call it again.
Persona non Grada.
End of story .
Jan Beute
are you authorized to give integration courses? if so, try it through the NL embassy. If that is not the case, then you are giving "worthless" courses and a Thai is not waiting for that. As an AOWer you can of course just work. Even Princess Beatrix receives (received) a salary AND an AOW. An old-age pension alone is not sufficient for a retirement visa, with a little extra savings in a Thai bank perhaps.