Dear readers,
I know that a lot has been written about the registration in Thailand of a marriage concluded in the Netherlands between a Dutch person and a Thai person. Because there are some ambiguities for me regarding additional documents and actions, I want to go into this in more detail, and this can also help readers for future marriage registrations in Thailand.
First my situation, I am a Dutchman and married in the Netherlands to a Thai, live in the Netherlands with my Thai wife and want to take the step to emigrate next year.
The plan is to travel to Thailand with a tourist visa of 60 days and to extend the visa on the basis of being married to my Thai wife, so a marriage visa.
I will list the points where I am sure what needs to be done. And the additions, which I think are necessary, but not sure.
In the Netherlands:
- Request international marriage certificate (definitely).
- Request an international birth certificate?
- Request a VOG and have it drawn up in English, these 3 documents not older than 6 months. International marriage certificate and birth certificate legalized, I think in order BZ in The Hague and then the Thai embassy in The Hague.
- In Bangkok to the NL embassy to have a copy of your passport legalized, is this necessary for the marriage registration in your Amphur?
- Have all these documents translated into Thai in Bangkok and legalized at the Ministry of Forain Affaires.
- Then to the Amphur, to register as married there. So you definitely need the marriage certificate for that.
Birth certificate? Legalized and translated copy of passport? (all translated into Thai), my wife's blue book and her Thai ID card. Have that marriage registration drawn up in Thai and English?
Did I forget things? Are there acts or documents that you say you have never heard of?
Personally, I find it strange that a copy of your passport has to be legalized and translated, because otherwise the Amphur will not register your marriage. This happened to an acquaintance, perhaps an official who was overzealous?
Further international birth certificate would be possible, VOG only if you apply for the marriage visa in the Netherlands? I'm not sure.
Sincerely,
Rudolf
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Dear Rudolph,
welcome to thailand.
I think you name everything you need.
But why the legalization of your passport and the reason for the Amphur to need it.
Your passport will be legalized by the Dutch embassy.
This is a guarantee that the passport is genuine.
Why then still translated and legalized by the Min. Foreign Affairs of Thailand.
That is because of the spelling of your name in Thai. As you know, Thai script is quite complicated
That is precise work. Sworn translators know the rules. The Ministry agrees to this official translation.
Then the Amphur will apply this spelling.
The officials of the Amphur are good at Thai script, but occasionally stubborn and have to stick to the official translation at that time, so don't cobble together a translation yourself.
Greetings Janderk
Two years ago I also had to have my passport translated for the application for my second yellow home book.
They wanted that on us Amphur.
No problem going to a recognized translator and the rest went as usual.
It only concerns the translation, no legalization or the like.
Jan Beute.
For my Tabien Baan/pink ID card, the translation of my name as it appears on the marriage certificate was sufficient.
I don't think you need a VOG. Where does it say this is necessary?
VOG: Declaration on Behavior, this is required in the Netherlands to get a job as a childcare worker (very good, by the way). I therefore cannot imagine that this would be required in Thailand (they probably do not even know that such a document exists in the Netherlands).
Why would people in Thailand not know that such a thing exists.
This also exists in Thailand, by the way. Had to submit to my wife when I married her 17 years ago.
And you must also submit this for applying for a Non-immigrant OA visa, among other things
That's right. But you don't need it for tourist visa or visa O.
No, but if you look closely you will see that this response is given to lomlallai because he said that they probably don't even know that such a document exists in the Netherlands.
Sometimes it is necessary to look at who the response is aimed at…. is quite simple, in other words if I wanted to respond to you I would have placed it under your comment.
By the way, he also does not say that this is necessary to apply for a Tourist or O visa.
He thinks he needs this for the “registration in Thailand of a marriage concluded in the Netherlands, between a Dutch person and a Thai person”. That is what his reader question is initially about.
Dear Rudolph,
I'm just wondering why you want to enter Thailand with a tourist visa? If you do intend to continue living here, why not with a Non O visa the first time? You will eventually have to convert that tourist visa to a Non O visa in order to obtain a year extension based on marriage to a Thai. Do you already have a Thai bank account? If not then the 90d you get when entering Thailand gives you a little more respite from opening one compared to the 60d you get with the tourist visa.
“The plan is to travel to Thailand with a 60-day tourist visa and to extend the visa on the basis of being married to my Thai wife, so a marriage visa.”
Why not immediately apply for a Non-immigrant O in the Netherlands on the basis of your marriage. Shouldn't you have anything converted in Thailand?
Because you can only extend your Tourist visa once for 30 days.
If you want an annual extension, you will first have to have your Tourist visa converted to a Non-immigrant. Costs 2000 Baht. This first gives you 90 days and you can then extend those 90 days.
If you immediately apply for a Non-immigrant O in the Netherlands, you immediately have those 90 days upon entry and you can extend those 90 days by a year.
Dear Lung addie and Ronny,
Thank you very much for your responses, I do indeed already have a bank account in Thailand so that's great.
To be honest, I haven't thought about it, but it is indeed an option to do that right here. However, I have not yet registered my marriage in Thailand, is that not a requirement of the Thai Embassy in the Netherlands? And is it sufficient to show the balance of my Thai bank account of 400k baht on my phone, or is that only necessary at the annual extension in Thailand with the bank statement and bank book, just as they then ask for the kor ror 22, which of course I already have? do have, and all other documents.
Thank you very much for your responses.
Sincerely,
Rudolf
Normally, the marriage registration in the Netherlands is also sufficient for this
It is only written that you must be married to someone who has Thai nationality, not specifically that this marriage must have taken place in Thailand
” You can also apply for this visa if you are officially married to a person of Thai Nationality or if you have children of Thai Nationality. take when applying for a visa.”
https://www.royalthaiconsulate-amsterdam.nl/visum-toelichting/
For renewal based on Thai Marriage, the Kor Ror 22 is indeed required and the marriage must be registered in Thailand.
There, too, the bank amount of 400 Baht is needed or an income of course.
You should inquire at your embassy what they want to see as an amount or income with the application. Normally Thai bank accounts will also be accepted.
You can also apply for that visa at the consulate in Amsterdam, because a single entry is sufficient.
Thank you Ronny,
I have sent an email to the Thai Embassy about that bank amount.
I'll keep you informed.
Sincerely,
Rudolf
Hi Ronnie,
I have emailed the embassy, but they emailed back saying, only email us 3 months before your departure
Then I called the consulate and they are customer friendly, if you can provide a Dutch savings account that is also okay, and if you can show 400 k baht printed out that is also okay.
Please go to the consulate in due time.
Thanks again for the info,
Rudolf